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"no such thing as a 299 in 9mm"

Yes there is

[Edited on February 11, 2006 at 12:42 PM. Reason : ]

2/11/2006 12:42:15 PM

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"no such thing as a 299 in 9mm. "

Maybe not, but they do make the 229 in 9mm.

2/11/2006 1:34:40 PM

since when? the 228 is the 9mm version of the 229

2/11/2006 1:41:34 PM

ok so after some research the no longer call it a 228. they now call it a 9mm p229. my 228 is 9m and i have bbls for both in my 229. i gues sig doenst make a std 228 any more

2/11/2006 1:44:37 PM

The 228 and 229 are two different guns. The 228 has a stamped slide, the 229's is machined.

2/11/2006 5:58:43 PM

no matter what you call it, its still a Sig

2/11/2006 11:47:00 PM

mmmmmm

sig

2/11/2006 11:49:19 PM

How can you not like Sigs?

2/12/2006 2:17:06 AM

They have fat grips where the decocker is, they have a ton of slack in SA, and the frontstrap is slick as snot.

Having said that, I love my 228

2/12/2006 3:17:32 AM

I don't really dislike Sigs, I just like USPs better.

2/12/2006 8:31:30 AM

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"How can you not like Sigs? "

Thats the same way I feel when someone says they dont like Glocks....it makes no sense

2/12/2006 11:43:48 AM

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"says they dont like Glocks"

DAO autos are worthless IMO

2/12/2006 3:48:54 PM

to many to name, but my pride and joy is an armalite m15a4c with a m203 imp 37mm cannon. my daily carry is a sig p220 in .45

[Edited on February 12, 2006 at 4:40 PM. Reason : ]

2/12/2006 4:40:32 PM

stopped by the shot show in vegas yesterday - that was a gun nut's paradise

2/12/2006 4:42:19 PM

Remington BDL .270, hand loaded with 140 gr Ballistic Tips. Topped with a Leupold Vari-X III 3.5-10x50
Ruger 10/22 all-weather. Put an aftermarket Ram-line Camoflauge Stock on it. Leupold 4x Rimfire Special
Remington 870 Express Magnum, plain ol 12 ga. 870, but its the best out there for the price range
Winchester model 70 .243, hand loaded with 95 gr. Ballistic tips(old deer rifle)

those are mine, dad has a lot more.

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"ruger red label 20g./26" O/U"

thats some hot shit right there, im jealous

[Edited on February 12, 2006 at 4:55 PM. Reason : d]

2/12/2006 4:50:28 PM

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"stopped by the shot show in vegas yesterday - that was a gun nut's paradise"

lucky bastard

[Edited on February 12, 2006 at 5:33 PM. Reason : 1]

2/12/2006 5:33:25 PM

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"Thats the same way I feel when someone says they dont like Glocks....it makes no sense"

I like Glocks just fine except for one thing...I don't like DAO (even if it's not textbook DA). I could handle having a compact one strictly as a CC piece. For anything I'd want to shoot at the range, I'll take SAO or DA/SA.



and yeah, SIGS have a fair amount of slack to take up in SA, but the break itself is nice...and I don't really remember the slack being any more than, say, a Beretta (the only other DA/SA weapon with which I have significant experience).

2/12/2006 5:40:13 PM

what's the cheapest somewhat-reliable .45 i could buy?

i'm moving to the west coast and am thinking about camping across the country on the way and just want a gun to shoot bears in the face with. i will probably just throw it away when i get to seattle so i want something cheap.

2/12/2006 5:42:39 PM

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"Thats the same way I feel when someone says they dont like Glocks....it makes no sense"

Oh, so you're just retarded

Seriously though, I don't like Glocks because I think they feel like crap. The grip angle feels bad, the finger grooves don't fit well, and the polymer just feels bad (I don't like polymer frames anyway). That being said I have no trouble admitting they are awesome at what they do.

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"and yeah, SIGS have a fair amount of slack to take up in SA, but the break itself is nice"

I agree with this. It is pretty slack, but it still has a nice crisp feel at the end. I think Berettas have perfected the totally shitastic terrible trigger feel.

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"what's the cheapest somewhat-reliable .45 i could buy? i'm moving to the west coast and am thinking about camping across the country on the way and just want a gun to shoot bears in the face with."

Get something sub-compact so when you piss that bear off it won't hurt as much when he shoves it up your ass.

2/12/2006 5:52:22 PM

well, depends on what kind of bears we're talking about, here.

and yeah, if it came down to it, i'd pump as many .45 ACP rounds into a grizzly as I could...it might not stop him, but if he was gonna eat you anyway, well, it's worth a shot.




funny story about shooting a Beretta...when I was qualifying with it in the USMC, I shot pretty well through the practice rounds, but nothing totally stellar (usually like 350-355 out of 400 possible points)...definitely not like I could've done had I been using my P226. Well, qualification day comes, and it's like 17 degrees outside (outdoor range). I actually shot better that day than any day before (shot like 385 out of a possible 400 points).

I don't know if I just had a good day, or if I do better under pressure (likely, I think), or if not being able to feel that damned trigger due to completely numb fingers was actually an advantage.

[Edited on February 12, 2006 at 6:05 PM. Reason : asdfasdf]

2/12/2006 6:04:54 PM

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"Seriously though, I don't like Glocks because I think they feel like crap. The grip angle feels bad, the finger grooves don't fit well, and the polymer just feels bad (I don't like polymer frames anyway). That being said I have no trouble admitting they are awesome at what they do."

I agree with you on the finger rail issue, thats why I mainly buy 2nd gen glocks.
To me the grip angle is far better than a sig and the way they feel in my hand is nothing short of perfection.

My IDPA gun is a 1st gen g17 with over 200k rounds through it, the only part that is not factory is a 3.5 connector and the sights.

[Edited on February 12, 2006 at 6:11 PM. Reason : back to glocktalk again ]

2/12/2006 6:09:07 PM

Yeah, I like the way they fit my hand. I just don't like the trigger (although it's not bad as far as DAO goes)

2/12/2006 6:10:22 PM

What....the trigger is the best part of a Glock

2/12/2006 6:12:11 PM

The pull is good, but I hate trigger safeties. Makes it feel like a toy

2/12/2006 8:31:19 PM

for a bear gun / camping gun, go get a 870 home defender model with the min legal barrel. MUCH mreo liekly to make a bear leave this plane of existance, plus less crap with states with extreme handgun laws.

2/12/2006 9:36:53 PM

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"You don't need an FFL."

how would you order one from that website?

or would i have to get one locally/have it delivered to a local store?

2/13/2006 1:24:14 PM

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"Quote : "ruger red label 20g./26" O/U" thats some hot shit right there, im jealous"

ehe thanks. i use it for clays. love it. my dad has a red label 12g./26"(?) O/U. his is stainless tho whereas mine is all blued.

2/13/2006 1:29:41 PM

^^ If you order a firearm from a website (or otherwise do not buy in person), you need to have it shipped to an FFL. There will be a transfer fee involved.

Exception: You have a C&R FFL, and the firearm is C&R eligible. Blackpowder firearms I also believe are exempt (but I'm not sure).

[Edited on February 13, 2006 at 1:38 PM. Reason : n]

2/13/2006 1:37:06 PM

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"how would you order one from that website? or would i have to get one locally/have it delivered to a local store?"

omghax is right, you would get the gun shipped to a local FFL then pick it up in person. Your local FFL is going to send their info to the seller and handle the transfer and charge you a fee. PDHSC charges $30, which I think is a little ridiculous. I don't know what anyone else charges, but I'd say $15-20 would be reasonable and $10 would be good.

AK clones aren't C&R eligible, so they need to be sent to a bonafide FFL. Also note: C&R FFLs can't do transfers, they are for personal use only.

If you are looking to get a WASR, wait for a show.

2/13/2006 6:45:11 PM

2/13/2006 6:56:42 PM

c&r permit holders may sell off excess guns, as they are allowed to purchase mroe than once of an item, select 1, and trade or resell those that do nto fit with the colection. they do nto clearly define how many guns may be disposed of to not cr holders before you need to move to a full ffl.

2/22/2006 1:27:35 AM

a c&r license is about $30. I have the info on how to get it if anyone is interested

too many in my collection to list, but my favorites are
H&K P7 M13
H&k Fabarm FP6
H&K USP 9mm with LEM trigger and 18 rnd mags

and on order a new springfield M1A Socom 2

2/22/2006 6:26:02 PM

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"they do nto clearly define how many guns may be disposed of to not cr holders before you need to move to a full ffl"

They don't clearly define it because you are not supposed to do it. A C&R holder cannot conduct business with his liscense.

2/22/2006 6:29:35 PM