cyrion All American 27139 Posts user info edit post |
showing up late to work and liking fried chicken? 2/13/2006 8:32:44 PM |
pirate5311 All American 1047 Posts user info edit post |
good, whether or not it can be heard 1 million times elsewhere is irrelevant. they were in a classroom, not in the bedroom watching 106 & Park or the Wayans brothers. whether the teacher was black or white, male or female doesn't matter. though indefinitely is a bit harsh. 2/14/2006 6:19:21 PM |
cheeze All American 892 Posts user info edit post |
did anyone else read this post by angylii85
Quote : | "I didn't read the topic, but teacher is not black so no matter if he said it first, the teacher doesn't get to say it. END OF STORY" |
2/15/2006 7:56:44 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
^yes, and it was pointed out that the race of the teacher doesn't matter. 2/15/2006 8:56:13 PM |
angylii85 All American 1958 Posts user info edit post |
Im not saying that it does matter as far as his suspension because it was completely inappropriate, but he just doesn't get to say it ESPECIALLY in this environment. 2/16/2006 12:09:46 AM |
bigben1024 All American 7167 Posts user info edit post |
a teacher at my highschool jokingly said that only Bump could use one of the two doors into the room. Bump was the only black guy in the class. He didn't think before he said it. He wasn't even thinking about it in that context, probably the same way this teacher wasn't thinking about it when he was trying to seem cool to the honors math kids. We all thought it was funny, especially Bump. Then again, we weren't snivelling bitches, so I guess it isn't a fair comparison. 2/16/2006 12:28:07 AM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
That is hilarious! If one of my teachers at my high school said that, I would need a hall pass and a change of clothes! wait...
the beginning arguments are right...there would be no controversy over the word "nigga" if it was used more by other races besides blacks since they usually call themselves/each other "niggas" 2/17/2006 7:59:02 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
you're a victim of the minstrel show that is black youth culture nigger should not be said by anyone 2/17/2006 8:09:21 PM |
jimb0 All American 4667 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "CAN YOU LEND A NIGGA A PENCIL?" |
aahahhah2/18/2006 5:02:59 PM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "nigger should not be said by anyone" |
hmm...2/18/2006 8:46:29 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53067 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If the teacher can be suspended for saying it to a student then the student should be suspended for saying it to a teacher." |
well put.
DIVERSITY AWARENESS TRAINING? you've got to be fucking kidding me. being black doesn't make you "diverse." it makes you BLACK. i'd say that responding to a dumbfuck in the language he understands best is pretty fucking diverse..2/18/2006 9:06:52 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
^^are you trying to twist my words to say that im not allowed to type "nigger" in a discussion about the use of the word? wow 2/18/2006 9:18:23 PM |
bigben1024 All American 7167 Posts user info edit post |
is wigger acceptable? 2/18/2006 9:43:02 PM |
SouthPaW12 All American 10141 Posts user info edit post |
Teacher should have refrained for one reason: to get the KID IN TROUBLE for calling a teacher "nigga".
I would bet my life the kid said it first. No white male that old, in a professional setting, that doesn't have mental issues, would just say the word "nigga". He knows he said it. 2/19/2006 2:03:49 AM |
bigben1024 All American 7167 Posts user info edit post |
In the interview the kid should have said everyone knows he says nizzle, not nigga. 2/19/2006 2:05:12 AM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "are you trying to twist my words to say that im not allowed to type "nigger" in a discussion about the use of the word?" |
just saying that would be the consistent thing to do... ironically you've said it again...2/19/2006 12:33:23 PM |
kwsmith2 All American 2696 Posts user info edit post |
The teacher still acted inappropriately.
Take the racial element out and analyize it like this -
Suppose the female students called each other bitches. Would it be appropriate for the teacher to say, "sit down, bitch"
Or what if the teacher said, "sit down mutherfucker"
None of these would be appropriate. 2/19/2006 1:51:11 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "just saying that would be the consistent thing to do... ironically you've said it again..." |
so you can't see the difference between the casual use of the word nigger and saying it or typing it during a discussion about the appropriate use of the word?
haha what an idiot2/19/2006 3:17:54 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Suppose the female students called each other bitches. Would it be appropriate for the teacher to say, "sit down, bitch"" |
A correct analogy is if a female student called the teacher a bitch.
In that scenario saying "sit down, bitch" would be hilarious and completely justified.2/19/2006 3:27:22 PM |
0 Suspended 3198 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The teacher still acted inappropriately.
Take the racial element out and analyize it like this -
Suppose the female students called each other bitches. Would it be appropriate for the teacher to say, "sit down, bitch"
Or what if the teacher said, "sit down mutherfucker"
None of these would be appropriate.
" |
yeah but the fact still remains that the kid did not get any disciplinary action taken to him, which seems to enforce the unwritten rule that it's okay for blacks to use that word but whites get suspended...2/19/2006 3:30:17 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
the kid says he didnt say it 2/19/2006 3:34:09 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
He's probably full of shit 2/19/2006 3:35:56 PM |
Malsi All American 2072 Posts user info edit post |
this is dumb. get over it. racism will never go away if we keep making such big deals about shit like this. i wonder where that kid got his values from? his parents. He has no connection whatsoever with the derogative use of nigger back in the day. it's dumb. Racism will NEVER go away until brats these days get raised differently. 2/19/2006 3:36:18 PM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "nigger should not be said by anyone" |
it's what you said. I assume you are a subset of anyone.2/19/2006 4:09:31 PM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The teacher still acted inappropriately.
Take the racial element out and analyize it like this -
Suppose the female students called each other bitches. Would it be appropriate for the teacher to say, "sit down, bitch"
Or what if the teacher said, "sit down mutherfucker"
None of these would be appropriate." |
That would be justified, just as nigga was. Bitch, nigga, and motherfucker are 3 different degrees of curse words-first off, nigga isn't one! I think that as long as the media makes it a racial ordeal, all the blacks will continue to "act" offended knowing that the child was not offended in the first place, and was probabally laughing his ass off like the rest of the students.2/19/2006 4:32:00 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
yeah black people don't really get offended when someone says nigger to them, they are just faking it
jesus christ turn off the tv and wake up 2/19/2006 6:04:47 PM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
If it offended them so bad, nigger wouldnt be in every rap song by every black rapper. You wouldn't hear them running everywhere calling each other nigger. They need to either be offended and stop using it to describe each other, or just get the fuck over it. 2/19/2006 6:30:07 PM |
bigben1024 All American 7167 Posts user info edit post |
I visited a white girls house once and she couldn't stop complaining to her mom who was in a wheelchair about how she was broke expecting her mom to give her some more money. She finally said "mom, niggas is broke these days," to which her mom replied, "well niggas need to get a job."
I almost had to get a change of clothes after that one. 2/19/2006 7:14:35 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
^^you're a victim of mtv and bet 2/19/2006 9:48:15 PM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
^I HATE those 2 channels with a passion. Definitely not a victim. 2/19/2006 10:04:17 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
well you apparently think that every black person is part of the hip-hop culture and that the word is ok soo... yeah
oh i just looked at your photo gallery, it explains your position a lot 2/19/2006 10:05:46 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "yeah but the fact still remains that the kid did not get any disciplinary action taken to him, which seems to enforce the unwritten rule that it's okay for blacks to use that word but whites get suspended..." |
thats a pretty good point2/19/2006 10:19:46 PM |
bigben1024 All American 7167 Posts user info edit post |
wonder how many bad teachers are going to get suspended once highschool kids get wind of this.
[Edited on February 19, 2006 at 10:23 PM. Reason : teachers not professors harhar] 2/19/2006 10:22:43 PM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
^^That quote is exactly what I was getting at.
And in my photo gallery, there are cats, dogs, nascar, guns, ski pics, and dead deer...It implies nothing about the position I take on this subject. 2/19/2006 10:28:25 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
and also redneck pictures and if the teacher had kept his mouth shut he could have punished the kid. no one is saying there isn't a double standard, but if you are saying its not offensive you're a fucking idiot. 2/19/2006 10:30:20 PM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
The kid had no right to be offended! If he can say it to the teacher, he can have it said to him. I never said it was appropriate to use that word in everyday conversation-but that the kid should get the fuck over it and drop it. So your position is based on driving really old cars and things with Samuel L. Jackson and snakes... 2/19/2006 10:37:21 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
so if i hear you joking with your friend and calling her a slut im allowed to start calling you a slut, right? i mean on sex and the city they call each other sluts all the time, so its ok to call women sluts because they do it on tv
[Edited on February 19, 2006 at 10:40 PM. Reason : slut] 2/19/2006 10:39:55 PM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
Well, I surely wouldn't make it into a racial ordeal.
In response to your edit, it doesn't happen only on tv. Listen closely as you walk around tomorrow.
[Edited on February 19, 2006 at 10:45 PM. Reason : m] 2/19/2006 10:41:34 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
oh really, you slut 2/19/2006 10:42:30 PM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
you really are retarded, you just posted that Quote : | "so if i hear you joking with your friend and calling her a slut im allowed to start calling you a slut, right?" | And you can't hear me talking to a friend, so you're gonna call me a slut...
[Edited on February 19, 2006 at 10:47 PM. Reason : not necessary]2/19/2006 10:46:21 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
well women call each other sluts on tv all the time, you just said that makes it ok
or can you see how stupid your logic is? 2/19/2006 10:54:22 PM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
The point is that I'm not going to make it a racial ordeal and try to have you suspended from teaching. Especially if I called you a slut first. 2/19/2006 10:59:19 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
oh i didn't know you spoke for every other female cause some of those sluts would get me suspended 2/19/2006 11:00:34 PM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
You called ME a slut, you are talking about ME...I am talking about YOU, and what I wouldn't have done to YOU...not what every other female would/wouldn't do. Can you not focus on what you are talking about?
[Edited on February 19, 2006 at 11:04 PM. Reason : n] 2/19/2006 11:03:54 PM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
this is such a stupid thread, I'm sorry to have posted in it. 2/19/2006 11:28:45 PM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
^Me too, I'm done. 2/19/2006 11:32:17 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
so we've pointed out that different people take offense to different things
kinda like how some people take offense to the word nigger, or did i just blow your mind with your own bad logic 2/20/2006 12:14:58 AM |
bigben1024 All American 7167 Posts user info edit post |
damn Guth, realize the difference between what someone hears on TV and what someone calls another person in person.
That being said, this thread is pretty lame, even more so after this post. 2/20/2006 1:02:53 AM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
of course i see the fucking difference do you not see how i was just pointing how how stupid she was for saying it was ok because they say it on mtv? 2/20/2006 10:28:41 AM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i was just pointing how how stupid she was for saying it was ok because they say it on mtv?" |
I never said that. Show me where I did if I did? You can't because I didn't! You obviously can't read, or have trouble comprehending what you read or something. Damn let this stupid fucking thread die already!2/20/2006 11:13:00 AM |