^maybe i am missing something, but where is the awesomeness

[Edited on February 13, 2006 at 11:40 AM. Reason : DAMMIT WTF PAGE 2 MOTHERFUcKING ASSHOLE]

2/13/2006 11:39:41 AM

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"Monday's hunting trip to Pennsylvania by Vice President Dick Cheney in which he reportedly shot more than 70 stocked pheasants and an unknown number of mallard ducks at an exclusive private club places a spotlight on an increasingly popular and deplorable form of hunting, in which birds are pen-reared and released to be shot in large numbers by patrons. The ethics of these hunts are called into question by rank-and-file sportsmen, who hunt animals in their native habitat and do not shoot confined or pen-raised animals that cannot escape. The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported today that 500 farm-raised pheasants were released yesterday morning at the Rolling Rock Club in Ligonier Township for the benefit of Cheney's 10-person hunting party. The group killed at least 417 of the birds, illustrating the unsporting nature of canned hunts. The party also shot an unknown number of captive mallards in the afternoon."

This is really lame. Ten people killing 417 birds? Where's the sport? And doesn't it get old? I mean, after you've killed 20 or so birds, what would motivate you to continue?

2/13/2006 11:42:36 AM

bloodlust

2/13/2006 11:45:03 AM

why would cheney get tired of killing things? it's the point of his career

2/13/2006 11:47:25 AM

OMG, MrT, I wanted to say bloodlust too, but I didn't know to spell or punctuate it.

Do you guys think that Cheney's PR people frowned upon him engaging in this "sport"? Or did they not even consider the fact that it might offend people?

[Edited on February 13, 2006 at 11:52 AM. Reason : sss]

2/13/2006 11:51:45 AM

Since when does Cheney care about offending other people?

2/13/2006 12:00:11 PM

yeah that doesn't make much sense, bridget

kerry had photos of himself hunting as part of his campaign, to prove that he wasn't anti-second amendment.

2/13/2006 12:03:49 PM

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"Do you guys think that Cheney's PR people frowned upon him engaging in this "sport"? "

they probably encouraged it, there are lots of voting sportsmen

2/13/2006 12:05:57 PM

Yes, but this particular type of hunting is looked down upon in some portions of the hunting community. It also appears to be a form of hunting that only the very wealthy have access to.

Why not have him go out on a "real" hunt?

2/13/2006 12:10:48 PM

middle america loves to see extravagent displays of wealth and douchebaggery by their leaders obviously

2/13/2006 12:11:47 PM

well if the guy didnt get shot the only details we would see are pictures of cheney hunting
other than a few bloggers the details would probably be ignored or at best forgotten

2/13/2006 12:11:56 PM

By the way, while these responses are very delicate, y'all must think I'm super stupid:

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"yeah that doesn't make much sense, bridget kerry had photos of himself hunting as part of his campaign, to prove that he wasn't anti-second amendment."

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"they probably encouraged it, there are lots of voting sportsmen"

You guys really thought that I meant hunting was all-around bad for a politician's image, didn't you? That is so sad that I come off as being that thoughtless.

PS. GORE IS A BETTER SHOT THAN CHENEY'S WHOLE HUNTING PARTY COMBINED!!!

2/13/2006 12:25:35 PM

AHAHAAH

there is a press conference no this right now. wow.

2/13/2006 12:39:23 PM

It looks like there was an attempted cover up during the first 12 hrs.

2/13/2006 12:42:42 PM

i have grown weary from my unending anger directed towards this administration

2/13/2006 12:44:38 PM

The bitches wife was the one who told the media bc Cheney's people werent gonna say shit. Thats funny.

2/13/2006 12:45:53 PM

The lameness of this style of hunting isn't fully conveyed in that description.

The birds don't even move around after they've been placed in the field. They stay there until the dogs scare them out.

It's essentially just skeet shooting for rich assholes.

2/13/2006 12:58:13 PM

haha you have empathy for birds with the central nervous system of highly developed plants

2/13/2006 1:13:03 PM

What's funny about moral development? And, I'm not sure if anybody has a lot of empathy for the birds. It's just pussy to do em like that.

[Edited on February 13, 2006 at 1:17 PM. Reason : sss]

2/13/2006 1:16:59 PM

It's not that he's killing living things, it's that he gets his jollies by killing living things en masse for no end other than the satisfaction he recieves from killing them.

That's a whole lot different than shooting a deer in the wild, whouldn't you say?

2/13/2006 1:23:43 PM

i want to see the plant thats as develpoed as a pheasant

[Edited on February 13, 2006 at 1:29 PM. Reason : so i can put it in a barrel and shoot it ]

2/13/2006 1:29:16 PM

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"The bitches wife was the one who told the media bc Cheney's people werent gonna say shit."

She better watch herself.

2/13/2006 1:56:20 PM

HUN, DICK WANTS TO GO FISHING WITH YOU, WEAR TWO PRESERVERS K SNOOKUMS, JUST TO BE SAFE

ps
dude is gonna look like clayface from batman after they pull those pellets out

2/13/2006 2:05:51 PM

I think you mean Two Face

2/13/2006 2:07:31 PM

nah, i meant clayface

the skin won't be disfigured (like two-face), it will just kinda be mushy (like clayface)

i had a piece of shot removed from my arm (much larger than what he got caught with) and the hole is still noticable, you can tell i had something removed, but it isn't disgifured or anything

2/13/2006 2:09:23 PM

even a faux news guy was molesting scott. funny.

2/13/2006 2:16:49 PM

Mary Matalin told the WaPo: "The vice president was concerned. He felt badly, obviously. On the other hand, he was not careless or incautious or violate any of the [rules]. He didn't do anything he wasn't supposed to do." ...read on"

I don't think he was supposed to shoot a man, but that's just me.

(reader Ces) sent me the "Shooting safety Rules,"

KNOW YOUR SAFE ZONE OF FIRE AND STICK TO IT.
Your safe zone-of-fire is that area or direction in which you can safely fire a shot. It is "down range" at a shooting facility. In the field it is that mental image you draw in your mind with every step you take. BE SURE YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR COMPANIONS ARE AT ALL TIMES. Never swing your gun or bow out of your safe zone-of-fire. Know the safe carries when there are persons to your sides, in front of, or behind you. IF IN DOUBT, NEVER TAKE A SHOT. When hunting, wear daylight fluorescent orange so you can be seen from a distance or in heavy cover.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/02/13.html#a7137

they're even lying about this. jesus.

2/13/2006 2:30:27 PM

^ This is a microcosm for the administration's handling of post-"victory" Iraq.

He feels bad that bad things happened, but it's certainly not his fault.

[Edited on February 13, 2006 at 2:42 PM. Reason : .]

2/13/2006 2:41:31 PM

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"even a faux news guy was molesting scott. funny."

Yeah, he even hinted that maybe they were hiding something.

2/13/2006 2:48:31 PM

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"She said Whittington had just shot a quail and dropped back to retrieve it. He was hit upon rejoining the group and "apparently came up unannounced" as Cheney prepared to fire."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/13/cheney/index.html

I hate interupting the "Cheney is an evil dumbass" discussion, but it sounds like homeboy walked into his line of fire.

I know several people who have been peppered while bird hunting. If he had been another 10-20 yards away, it wouldn't have even broken the skin.

2/13/2006 2:52:58 PM

Birds are such sissies

2/13/2006 2:57:49 PM

the last story I saw said what you posted ^^, but before all of this happened, cheney was about to fire, the birds were flushed, and he spun around and fired without waiting, and he hit the guy because he had shown up unannounced.

2/13/2006 3:00:13 PM

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"I hate interupting the "Cheney is an evil dumbass" discussion, but it sounds like homeboy walked into his line of fire."

Hunting Safety 101

The shooter is responsible for knowing the locations of all his hunting partners 100% of the time.

2/13/2006 3:01:06 PM

Tex. Penal Code § 6.03

© A person acts recklessly, or is reckless, with respect to circumstances surrounding his conduct or the result of his conduct when he is aware of but consciously disregards a substantial and unjustifiable risk that the circumstances exist or the result will occur. The risk must be of such a nature and degree that its disregard constitutes a gross deviation from the standard of care that an ordinary person would exercise under all the circumstances as viewed from the actor's standpoint.

(d) A person acts with criminal negligence, or is criminally negligent, with respect to circumstances surrounding his conduct or the result of his conduct when he ought to be aware of a substantial and unjustifiable risk that the circumstances exist or the result will occur. The risk must be of such a nature and degree that the failure to perceive it constitutes a gross deviation from the standard of care that an ordinary person would exercise under all the circumstances as viewed from the actor's standpoint."


Translation, according to Lewis v. State and Moore v. State:

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""Reckless conduct . . . involves conscious risk creation, that is, the actor is aware of the risk surrounding his conduct or the results thereof, but consciously disregards that risk. Criminal negligence . . . involves inattentive risk creation, that is, the actor ought to be aware of the risk surrounding his conduct or the results thereof. At the heart of reckless conduct is conscious disregard of the risk created by the actor's conduct; the key to criminal negligence is found in the failure of the actor to perceive the risk.""

2/13/2006 3:03:40 PM

nobody gets between dick cheney and killing

even if he has to kill you

2/13/2006 3:04:03 PM

I'm not saying that Cheney isn't at fault. But fuck it, I'm not going to expend anymore energy defending Dick Cheney.

Hunting Safety 101

1) The shooter is responsible for knowing the locations of all his hunting partners 100% of the time.

2) Don't sneak up between hunters and targets.

3) Duck, nigga.

2/13/2006 3:09:23 PM

^^ahahh

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"1) The shooter is responsible for knowing the locations of all his hunting partners 100% of the time."

Im glad someone validated this bc i just made it up. Seemed like common sense to me.

[Edited on February 13, 2006 at 3:22 PM. Reason : -]

2/13/2006 3:22:07 PM

I do wonder how many times this has happened before.

2/13/2006 5:35:27 PM

I'm telling you right now - Cheney was lit up like a christmas tree when he shot that guy. They were probably shooting skeet with the empties when this went down.

2/13/2006 5:53:07 PM

heres a before pic... can someone find a after??!

2/13/2006 6:31:26 PM

2/13/2006 6:33:18 PM

Here's another safety rule:

Don't shoot people.

2/13/2006 6:34:53 PM

man i usually despise cheney, but i gotta say people are making way too big of a deal out of this...looking for any excuse they can to attack the guy. it was an accident. CNN is like "omg why did we have to wait over 24 hours to find out about this??!!" ...but i think the only significance of it is the comedic value.

2/13/2006 7:14:25 PM

our VP shoots a man....and its ONLY of comedic value?

wtf

2/13/2006 7:22:07 PM

that was my initial feeling, yeah....the guy isn't pressing charges, they weren't real bullets, it was an accident.

now if he was doing something really irresponsible or somehow illegal, that would cause some concern. i don't know hunting protocol and haven't read the whole thread, so i don't know for sure. but i don't think it's a big deal that we didn't find out about this until a day later.

2/13/2006 7:30:39 PM

I enjoyed a bit of schadenfreude when I first heard about the accident. The shooting itself is no big deal.
But, man, the "sport" they enjoy sure is pathetic. I've never heard of people engaging in hunting like this and gives me more reason to despise Cheney and his ilk.

2/13/2006 7:57:40 PM

apparently cheney once killed over 70 doves on one hunting trip, an extremely irresponsible act. hes trigger happy.

2/13/2006 8:18:02 PM

the way the old man "hunts" isn't really hunting anyway. Might as well just go shoot at a clay range if all you care about is shooting a target that is set up for you.

2/13/2006 8:23:39 PM

This is comedic/campaign gold, of course. But did you just call hunting a sport? I ask because in most sports the two competing sides are actually aware of the game being played.

From the Smoking Gun (literally, hehe):

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0213061cheney1.html

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"FEBRUARY 13--The Texas Parks and Wildlife Department today issued a report on Vice President Dick Cheney's accidental shooting Saturday of a fellow quail hunter on a sprawling Texas ranch. The hunting accident report, a copy of which you can find below, briefly recounts how Cheney plugged Harry Whittington, a 78-year-old Austin lawyer, with birdshot in the face, neck, and chest. According to the state report, Cheney was wearing a "blaze orange" cap and "coat/vest" and brown trousers and was toting an Italian-made Perazzi .28-caliber shotgun. In addition to the document's release, wildlife officials reported today that while Cheney had purchased a valid non-resident hunting license, he did not obtain a required "upland game bird stamp." As a result, a warning citation--which carries no fine or penalty--will be issued to Cheney, which state officials described as "routine." And as for whether Cheney would have needed to previously take a hunters education course, state wildlife officials noted that such classes are only required of hunters born on or after September 2, 1971. Cheney was born January 30, 1941. While yet to release its report on the shooting, the Kenedy County Sheriff's Office this afternoon issued a press release noting that an "investigation reveals that there was no alcohol, or misconduct involved in the incident." In an interview with deputies, Whittington "collaborated Vice President Cheney's statement," according to the release, which concluded, "This was no more than a hunting accident." (3 pages)"

Just to be clear here, if Whittington moved into Cheney's line of fire, why didn't they report that? The report says that Cheney was "swinging on game," and the checkbox indicating "Victim moved into line of fire" is clear.

[Edited on February 13, 2006 at 8:43 PM. Reason : quit twisting the facts plz...and plz don't shoot me]

2/13/2006 8:34:11 PM

he didnt even have the proper stamp/permit thingy and got a warning?

uh oh

2/13/2006 8:47:45 PM