PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
interested in white pride? heres a good place to start:
http://officialprussianblue.net/
[Edited on February 15, 2006 at 8:44 PM. Reason : .] 2/15/2006 8:43:19 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Black people were all dragged here" |
wow wow
that is so extremely ignorant2/15/2006 11:42:51 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
a small minority migrated here...
but the overwhelming majority in the south were slaves 2/15/2006 11:44:42 PM |
joepeshi All American 8094 Posts user info edit post |
I don't understand the point of the email. I mean it attacked blacks throughout most of it but tried to tie in the rest of the colored folk at the same time. 2/16/2006 12:47:20 AM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18191 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i didnt read past GrumpyGOP's post i knew it wouldnt live up" |
That's understandable.
But during the revolution, you'll be one of the first ten people I throw up against a wall with a blindfold and a cigarette. It's nothing personal, but desperate times call for desperate measures.2/16/2006 1:34:39 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Black people were all dragged here." |
Actually the majority of black people we see every day were born here. Quit living in the past.2/16/2006 7:51:31 AM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think dumbass missed my point.
If you put yourselves in the shoes of other races for a minute, I think you'll see why they get leery of any white pride movement, because those have, without exception, heretofore been involved in some pretty fucked-up, oppressive shit." |
and i think you, dumbass, missed my point.
I dont give a fuck what they might be 'leery' of. Its basically saying 'hey, those white people then did this, if these completely different white people here get together it might happen again!'
its the definition of racism. and youre a fucking idiot for posting shit like that.2/16/2006 9:17:38 AM |
CDeezntz All American 6845 Posts user info edit post |
OH RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ALL THE BLACK PEOPLE HERE WOULD BE HERE REGARDLESS OF THE SLAVE TRADE!!!!!!!!!1
OH AND LETS FORGET ABOUT THE SLAVE TRADE AND THE HOLOCAUST B/C LIVING IN THE PAST IS FUCKIN SILLY! OH AND THE POTATO FAMINE TO ADD IN THE SPUD EATERS!
2/16/2006 12:41:55 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
never mind that the original e-mail reads like the fucking White Pride Manifesto
[Edited on February 16, 2006 at 12:49 PM. Reason : .] 2/16/2006 12:45:18 PM |
bgmims All American 5895 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Black pride is a solidarity movement aimed at undoing the lingering racism of the past. It's not aimed at hurting whites; only at advancing an ethnic group that has been held back for the past 400 or so years. They also seek to revive a culture that has been repressed for just as long." |
Incorrect stereotype. It is true for a vast majority of black pride, but plenty of black panthers and other lesser known groups were solely filled at anti-white aims.
But you are right to an extent. I think the problem is that "white pride" is now associated with kkk and other shitty movements, so no one can say they're proud to be white and not look like a skinhead. Of course, I could care less about which race I was, because I was taught something about equality of men or some shit.2/20/2006 1:13:25 PM |
bgmims All American 5895 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " ALL THE BLACK PEOPLE HERE WOULD BE HERE REGARDLESS OF THE SLAVE TRADE!!!!!!!!!1
OH AND LETS FORGET ABOUT THE SLAVE TRADE AND THE HOLOCAUST B/C LIVING IN THE PAST IS FUCKIN SILLY! OH AND THE POTATO FAMINE TO ADD IN THE SPUD EATERS!" |
I would bet a lot of blacks would be here without the slave trade. Given, this requires the argument that we would eventually still be a powerful nation without slavery, but lets look at it this way: What if we enslaved only Indians when we got here. We'd still be a powerful nation. So you think no blacks would be here? When did you think the Mexicans got here, when we were a shithole or once we were prosperous. Suerly, there'd be less blacks, but get it straight, Hatians and Africans still come here >200 years after slavery.2/20/2006 1:16:33 PM |
cali_j2004 All American 3724 Posts user info edit post |
if i hear that dumbass argument about how "white history month" is march-january, im gonna go insane. Give me one piece of factual information that supports that. When i flip through my tv do i see just white people, when i read the paper is it just about white people, do we have little commercials promoting the things that only white people did, NO. It is this reverse racism that is keeping normal racism alive. 2/20/2006 2:00:30 PM |
boonedocks All American 5550 Posts user info edit post |
white history month is march-january 2/20/2006 2:38:48 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
http://nazistomp.ytmnsfw.com/ 2/20/2006 2:48:48 PM |
cyrion All American 27139 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Give me one piece of factual information that supports that. When i flip through my tv do i see just white people, when i read the paper is it just about white people, do we have little commercials promoting the things that only white people did, NO. It is this reverse racism that is keeping normal racism alive." |
durr, just cuz we arent having little segways of ppl talking about great white ppl doesnt mean that isnt the focus. the idea is that most history books and programs in general within our schools are very euro-centric. seriously what did you learn in high school? we did american history, american government, and european history (mostly france, england, germany, italy, and smatterings of other countries mainly in western europe).
the topics many schools teach regarding africa or asia are slim pickins.2/20/2006 2:49:13 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
How about that? May is Asian Pacific American (APA) Heritage Month.
Thanks google.
2/20/2006 2:55:56 PM |
boonedocks All American 5550 Posts user info edit post |
In fact, African history isn't in the World History high school EOGs, so you can imagine how much they're taught in the classroom. 2/20/2006 2:59:29 PM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18191 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I dont give a fuck what they might be 'leery' of. Its basically saying 'hey, those white people then did this, if these completely different white people here get together it might happen again!' " |
The track record is pretty solid. I can't think, off the top of my head, of a single incident where white people got together to talk about how great white was that didn't end poorly for everybody else. Every single time. In other words, from where other people are sitting, it isn't that it might happen again -- it's that it will. I can't blame anybody for fighting that.
Then we look at other races. When black people get together to bask in their blackness, it almost never ends in our oppression. The NAACP never ran cracker pogroms, never tried to keep whitey from voting, never burned anything in my yard.
So, are some of these things racist? Yeah. But it's not what you'd call a malignant racism. Obviously the ideal situation would be one in which there is no racism, but, failing that, I'll allow for some of the benign kind. When I see you devoting an appropriate percentage of your outrage to white racism, then we can talk.2/20/2006 3:40:49 PM |
Ytsejam All American 2588 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, the history taught in school is Euro-centric. But maybe thats because that is what is important to teach. Cause yeah, lets face it, Eurasian history is far, far more important than sub-saharan african history to understanding the current world.
So people are equating "Black Pride" with "Irish Pride", isn't one a race thing and another a cultural thing?
And shit, half the stuff they teach about "Black History" are lies and half-truths. Newsflash George Washington Carver didn't invent Peanut Butter! omfg! (not that he wasn't a great scientist) 2/20/2006 3:42:51 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Cause yeah, lets face it, Eurasian history is far, far more important than sub-saharan african history to understanding the current world. " |
Why? History in general is useless, except to show politicians that they shouldn't repeat it.
Other than that, I can't think of how learning about the huguenots in highschool has benefitted me more or less than learning about some ancient African civilization. Also, now that I think about it, other than bits about Egypt, there really hasn't been ANY mundane teachings about africa, where as I do at least remember learning about some Indian peoples that had city blocks, how the Chinese had dynasties and the japanese had the samurai code.2/20/2006 3:47:38 PM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18191 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Cause yeah, lets face it, Eurasian history is far, far more important than sub-saharan african history to understanding the current world." |
True, but that still doesn't justify teaching European and American history to the exclusion of others.
Quote : | "History in general is useless, except to show politicians that they shouldn't repeat it." |
Foolishness. Anybody who ever so much as suggests a new policy over a few beers with his buddy is completely unjustified in doing so without at least a reasonable knowledge of the history surrounding his suggestion.
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bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Why? History in general is useless, except to show politicians that they shouldn't repeat it." |
That's an interesting statement, I agree with it too.2/20/2006 3:52:01 PM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18191 Posts user info edit post |
Well I hope neither of you have any opinions whatsoever about global or domestic politics. 2/20/2006 3:53:56 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The track record is pretty solid. I can't think, off the top of my head, of a single incident where white people got together to talk about how great white was that didn't end poorly for everybody else. Every single time." |
WOODSTOCK BITCH.2/20/2006 3:55:18 PM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18191 Posts user info edit post |
I missed the part where Woodstock was a white pride rally. 2/20/2006 3:55:57 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Foolishness. Anybody who ever so much as suggests a new policy over a few beers with his buddy is completely unjustified in doing so without at least a reasonable knowledge of the history surrounding his suggestion. " |
That's why I made the exception for politics.
But, lots of people don't care about politics, and get through their lives without worrying about it (most people in the US can do this if they wanted). For this type of person, a knowledge of history is useless. Even politicians very often times ignore history, and get away with it.2/20/2006 3:58:07 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
^^ revisionist history 2/20/2006 3:59:42 PM |
cyrion All American 27139 Posts user info edit post |
i was under the impression that there was quite a bit of important history from the middle east, africa, etc dealing with science and whatnot. i really am not a fan of history myself, but ive heard arguments for the teaching more asian (east/west alike) and african history. 2/20/2006 4:20:35 PM |
cali_j2004 All American 3724 Posts user info edit post |
what do u think that we can invent history to pertain to blacks in textbooks?? The reason they arent there is because they were in slavery. We cant just make something up to put them in there. And we dont talk about "AFRICAN" culture, but black americans shouldnt be upset about that bc they arent africans. They are americans. we talk about black culture all the time. Every history class/political class i have ever taken has an entire section or 2 about race pertaining to blacks. Do you see me pitching a fit bc we dont talk about Scottish history in schools, hell no, no one care about that because I and most everyone else understands that they are an AMERICAN, not a Scottish-American, or even African or Asian-American, but an AMERICAN. when we can start looking as everyone as one then we can hope to elimate racism. 2/20/2006 4:22:55 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "when we can start looking as everyone as one then we can hope to elimate racism." |
haha i love this its such an easy way to say you wish black people started acting more white2/20/2006 4:26:15 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ In some ways though, the black community as a whole needs to "act more white," particularly in young people's views towards education.
The Boondocks (the cartoon) had a good episode on yesterday relating to this. 2/20/2006 4:34:26 PM |
cyrion All American 27139 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ blacks in slavery have no history im afraid and they shouldnt care about places that they might have had other ancestors froms. we really should only teach about countries that are relevant to us cuz we #1.
[Edited on February 20, 2006 at 4:35 PM. Reason : sigh] 2/20/2006 4:35:01 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
^^the black community and the black youth hip-hop culture are two different things 2/20/2006 4:58:57 PM |
CDeezntz All American 6845 Posts user info edit post |
every time this topic is brought up all I think about is a giant baby crying.
someone call the damn whambulance
oh and for the record I learned quite abit about British history in school which involves Scotland.
[Edited on February 20, 2006 at 5:06 PM. Reason : boohoospital] 2/20/2006 5:04:28 PM |
TGD All American 8912 Posts user info edit post |
So originally I was going to post "wait a minute, someone posted a thread about whitey being oppressed and it's nearly at 3 pages already?"....
...but having seen ^, I'm content just repeating:
Quote : | "every time this topic is brought up all I think about is a giant baby crying.
someone call the damn whambulance" |
2/20/2006 6:00:45 PM |
bigben1024 All American 7167 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Newsflash George Washington Carver didn't invent Peanut Butter! " |
2/20/2006 6:10:39 PM |
boonedocks All American 5550 Posts user info edit post |
History's useless? Knowledge of previous outcomes to specific actions is useless?
^ Hah, I missed that. SEE PEOPLE? WHAT GOOD DID HISTORY DO HIM?!
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gunguy All American 775 Posts user info edit post |
i think this is all bullshit, in my experience black ppl are the ones who bring up racism the most. hell when i wear a shirt with the confederate flag on it I’m called racist, so now i can't celebrate my southern heritage without being oppressed. 2/20/2006 6:19:51 PM |
boonedocks All American 5550 Posts user info edit post |
^ Quote : | "SEE PEOPLE? WHAT GOOD DID HISTORY DO HIM?!" |
2/20/2006 6:22:15 PM |
bigben1024 All American 7167 Posts user info edit post |
the traffic light?
[Edited on February 20, 2006 at 6:33 PM. Reason : .]
2/20/2006 6:32:07 PM |
cyrion All American 27139 Posts user info edit post |
gunguy obviously doesnt know the history of the flag as discussed on this site to death. 2/20/2006 6:55:08 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i think this is all bullshit, in my experience black ppl are the ones who bring up racism the most. hell when i wear a shirt with the confederate flag on it I’m called racist, so now i can't celebrate my southern heritage without being oppressed." |
ahahhhaaahah. ignorance is bliss huh?2/20/2006 7:13:00 PM |
cyrion All American 27139 Posts user info edit post |
HERRITAGE NOT HATE JOSH
ill say it once and ill say it again. even if it really was about herritage, you're a dumbass for wearing a shirt that you know ppl equate with racism and then whining about it. "oh i know it is gonna be contraversial, but screw them, im so right and i wanna take every opportunity to tell them."
[Edited on February 20, 2006 at 7:21 PM. Reason : .] 2/20/2006 7:19:42 PM |
FitchNCSU All American 3283 Posts user info edit post |
People whine too much.
So what if black people have their own month? Shit, we gave them the shortest month of the year.
Seriously, having the United Negro College Fund never had an effect on me or ever hurt me.... chances are- it hasn't hurt anyone. Don't like BET? So what? Turn the channel to TNN. You think ghettos are dangerous? Then stay out, dumbass!
[Edited on February 20, 2006 at 7:42 PM. Reason : .] 2/20/2006 7:40:47 PM |
bigben1024 All American 7167 Posts user info edit post |
so many insightful responses!
no wonder black people hate us. 2/20/2006 7:45:20 PM |
FitchNCSU All American 3283 Posts user info edit post |
^ http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/ 2/20/2006 8:00:38 PM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18191 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " For this type of person, a knowledge of history is useless." |
And for me, a knowledge of mathematics above basic algebra is useless. I'll let you stop taking my shit when you let me stop taking yours.
Quote : | "hell when i wear a shirt with the confederate flag on it I’m called racist, so now i can't celebrate my southern heritage without being oppressed." |
Oh, you're being oppressed? We'd better call the ACLU. What did those mean old black people do, prevent you from voting? No? Make you use a special restroom? No? Harrass you in your home? No?
You're celebrating the most abominable part of your heritage, and you are abominable for it. German people manage to celebrate their heritage without wearing a swastika, why can't you cheer on yours without wearing that damned rag?2/20/2006 10:38:19 PM |
gunguy All American 775 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you're a dumbass for wearing a shirt that you know ppl equate with racism and then whining " |
i'm don't whine about it i really just don't give a shit what ppl think, i'm from the country and that represents me. i rarely ever were those shirts but when i do, leave me the fuck alone!2/20/2006 10:56:41 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
poor guy 2/20/2006 10:59:16 PM |
TGD All American 8912 Posts user info edit post |
set 'em (whitey) up... 2/20/2006 11:01:13 PM |