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"Tell me, then, what you think happened to the lost tribes of Israel that were taken into captivity and never returned to Palestine? Did they disappear and die out? Is some other race of people their descendents?"

I don't know what happened to them. I don't give a shit. Nobody does. Like it fucking matters. Feel free to continue being batshit insane.

2/22/2006 4:40:14 PM

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"I don't know what happened to them. I don't give a shit. Nobody does."

Well, that is simply false. A lot of people do care. What about the so-called "Jews" and many Christians? A lot of people, especially those in the "mainstream" Judeo-Chrisitian churches, seem to strongly believe that these "Jews" are the descendants of the Israelites. And they seem to think it is pretty important. This strong belief causes many Christians to identify with the Zionists (ie, to support the agenda and actions of Jews, including the taking of the land around Palestine from muslims because it is "their land" as "God's Chosen people").

This issue has profound implications and is very important to many people.



[Edited on February 22, 2006 at 4:53 PM. Reason : =]

2/22/2006 4:46:29 PM

i consider myself a zionist b/c i think jews are funnier than gentiles and their women more attractive. i really don't care about that lost tribe stuff at all.

2/22/2006 4:58:01 PM

Yo, salisburyboy. You really should read VALIS by Philip K. Dick. It's fiction, but it explores a very outlandish, very conspiratorial view of what may have happened to the tribes of Israel up to and shortly after Jesus lived. You're just paranoid enough to enjoy it, I think.

2/22/2006 5:04:32 PM

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"Tell me, then, what you think happened to the lost tribes of Israel that were taken into captivity and never returned to Palestine?"

It's not like the 10 tribes of Isreal are stashed away somewhere in a jungle waiting to be discovered. They were carried away to captivity. More than likely over time they intermarried with their captors and took on aspects of their culture and religion. After generations and generations passed they all pretty much forgot about their ancestory.

The "lost" 10 tribes are probably spread all over the world today. The only thing that makes them lost is the fact that they don't know they are from jewish descent.

2/22/2006 5:06:40 PM

So if the Norse and the Celts and the Anglos and all the rest were the descendants of the lost tribes of Israel, how come they worshipped multiple gods with their own brand of mythology?

2/22/2006 5:13:31 PM

^mythology?

2/22/2006 5:14:26 PM

It would be pretty stupid to say that the Norse, Celts, and Anglos are the lost 10 tribes. Some Norse, Celts, and Anglos might have a few people here and there that were of jewish descent but the whole point of the tribes being lost is that they were swallowed up by the dominant cultures they were a part of.

2/22/2006 5:17:58 PM

^^ The Greeks had their own mythology, the Norse/Celts/whatever had theirs, with multiple gods and such.

2/22/2006 5:18:54 PM

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"A lot of people, especially those in the "mainstream" Judeo-Chrisitian churches, seem to strongly believe that these "Jews" are the descendants of the Israelites."

anyone can convert and become a jew. not all people who have jewish parents want to be jewish.

so that means, YOU ARE WRONG.

2/22/2006 5:19:32 PM

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"So white people are genetically predisposed to being receptive of Christ?"

Is this your position, salisburyboy?

2/22/2006 5:20:53 PM

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"So white people are genetically predisposed to being receptive of Christ?"

Umm.... I missed that one. Was he saying that because he thinks the Norse, Celts, and Anglos ar the lost 10 tribes? Wow. I thought the Jew rejected Jesus. So wouldn't that mean:

"So white people are genetically predisposed to being receptive of reject Christ?"

I mean... if you convince yourself that genetics propogate religious leanings.

2/22/2006 5:25:36 PM

i read it, and i still dont see why this matters

2/22/2006 5:27:11 PM

GOOD FUCKING JOB DUKE

REALLLLLY GOOD WORK

2/22/2006 5:34:17 PM

CHEESE

that's right. i said it.

2/22/2006 5:48:33 PM

To be fair to salisburyboy I think anybody who mentions Ch$%%$ should be suspended. The boy has abided by the rather draconian restrictions placed on him since his suspension and it would be good to show the law is impartial on TWW.

As always I must insert a disclaimer here to emphasize that I love the Jews and think most of what salisburyboy says is just plain wrong.

2/22/2006 6:10:44 PM

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"It's not like the 10 tribes of Isreal are stashed away somewhere in a jungle waiting to be discovered. They were carried away to captivity. More than likely over time they intermarried with their captors and took on aspects of their culture and religion. After generations and generations passed they all pretty much forgot about their ancestory."

There are many prophecies in the Bible pertaining to the "House of Israel" (ie, the 10-tribed northern nation of Israel that was carried away to captivity in Assyria and never returned to Palestine), including end-time prophecies. The nation of Israel was to remain a nation (ie, a people) until the end times. Also, according to the Bible, Israelites were not to intermarry with other races. Now, it is true that a portion of the people in these lost tribes of Israel have intermarried with other races, but a significant number of them have not intermarried and remain pure-blooded Israelites up until this day.

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"The "lost" 10 tribes are probably spread all over the world today. The only thing that makes them lost is the fact that they don't know they are from jewish descent."

They are NOT from "Jewish descent." They are ISRAELITES and of ISRAELITE descent. Israel was the father of 12 sons, from whom come the 12 tribes of Israel. Judah (from which the word "Jew" originates) was only one of those 12 sons. The term "Jew" was used to refer to those of the southern kingdom of "Judah" (which was composed of the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and part of Levi) after the Israelites split into 2 nations. The other 10 tribes were in the northern kingdom called "Israel."

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"So if the Norse and the Celts and the Anglos and all the rest were the descendants of the lost tribes of Israel, how come they worshipped multiple gods with their own brand of mythology?"

Over the many centuries after being taken into captivity, they lost much of their culture, religion, and even the knowledge of their Israelite ancestry. They adopted other religions and languages, and came to be known by different names.

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"A lot of people, especially those in the "mainstream" Judeo-Chrisitian churches, seem to strongly believe that these "Jews" are the descendants of the Israelites."

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"anyone can convert and become a jew. not all people who have jewish parents want to be jewish so that means, YOU ARE WRONG"

The term "Jew" is used in both racial and religious terms. There is the Jewish relgion, but there are also racially "Jewish" people (ie, of Khazar and Edomite descent, NOT Israelites). The state of Israel restricts immigration to those who are racially "Jewish."

You cannot deny that the "Jews" also view themselves as a distinctive race, and that they claim to be the physical descendants of the Israelites. That is how they claim to have possession of the land around Palestine, and claim to be "God's Chosen People."

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"GOOD FUCKING JOB DUKE REALLLLLY GOOD WORK"

What is it you really want? Isn't it just TOTAL censorship so that I can never post here again?

You have no legitimate grounds ask for my suspension or any further action against me. All it is is that you (and some others) are "annoyed" with me posting here (ie, really don't like my views) and you want me silenced and run out.


[Edited on February 23, 2006 at 9:06 AM. Reason : =]

2/23/2006 8:37:35 AM

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"They are NOT from "Jewish descent"..."

Yeah, I have been kinda careless with the Jew v. Israelite label. Thanks.

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"Also, according to the Bible, Israelites were not to intermarry with other races."

According to the Bible the Israelites were not supposed to intermarry. They did it all the time, and that with prophets on their backs reminding them left and right. Why do you think there was so much idolatry in Israel - even when the Israelites were living in their inherited lands? They were intermarrying with the Philistines and adopting some of their religious practices. I imagine it got much, much worse when they were led away into captivity. They no longer lived in their land and they didn't have (as many) prophets.

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"a significant number of them have not intermarried and remain pure-blooded Israelites up until this day"

Dude the tribes are lost. If they were pure blood that would imply that:
1) They know about their ancestry
2) They know others of their ancestry
3) They are careful to marry only others of their ancestry in order to maintain a pure blood posterity.

If you have all of these people running around that know they are Israelites then what exactly makes them lost? Sounds like they are found to me... or in this case never lost because they have maintained their bloodline all these years.

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"Over the many centuries after being taken into captivity, they lost much of their culture, religion, and even the knowledge of their Israelite ancestry. They adopted other religions and languages, and came to be known by different names."

So, here we have it. If they lost much of their religion, culture, etc. how were they clever enough to make sure they didn't intermarry with peoples of other faiths? How did they make sure they kept the bloodline pure if they lost the knowledge of their Israelite ancestry? Answer... they didn't. That is how they got lost.

[Edited on February 23, 2006 at 9:14 AM. Reason : =]

2/23/2006 9:11:36 AM

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"does it matter? "

nope.

/thread

2/23/2006 9:22:25 AM

Sorry to bump this, but this is so fascinating I can't help but ask a few questions.

Are you saying that Jesus was white? Or that the real jews magically turned white in, what 1000 years give or take? Because both seem pretty outlandish.

If the super-jews don't "remember" that they are jewish and adopt the regional culture as you stated earlier, how do they "remember" that they are only allowed to marry other super-jews? And how do you tell a super-jew from a regular white person?

How many of you are there? Do you just count anybody that's white? Am I jewish even if I don't know it?

Where the hell is your church?

2/23/2006 9:50:32 AM

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"Are you saying that Jesus was white?"

Yes. And Jesus was an Israelite of the tribe of Judah.

Going back to the beginning, Adam was white. How do we know this? The word "Adam" in the Hebrew is "aw-dam'", which means "to show blood (in the face), i.e. flush or turn rosy".

See for yourself in Strong's Hebrew Lexicon here:
http://www.eliyah.com/cgi-bin/strongs.cgi?file=hebrewlexicon&isindex=Adam

We are told by the "mainstream" churches that all people descended from Adam, but this is false. There were other people on the earth before Adam was created. That is why Cain feared other people would kill him when he was banished from the garden of Eden, and how Cain was able to find a wife and have his own descendants.

And just think about it logically. How could all the races of people (ie, blacks, asiatics, whites) come from Adam and Eve? Wouldn't Adam and Eve's children bear the same racial characteristics? Is it possible for the blacks, asain, and white races to have all come from Adam and Eve? If it were so and all the races came from Adam, what would cause the VAST physical and genetic differences in these races that are now present? Time or climate? It's simply not possible.

Therefore, the "white" races are the descendants of Adam. They are "Adamites." Later, all the Adamites were destroyed except for Noah and his family (in the flood, which was a localized, not global, flood).

The Israelites are only a portion of the descendants of Noah (ie, Jacob/Israel was around 13 generations removed from Noah). Therefore, the Israelites are only a portion of the "white" people on earth. But odds are they are currently a larger portion of the white races on earth than they were in times past (if not currently the majority portion) because the Israelites were commanded by God to not intermarry with the other races. Most of the other "white" descendants of Noah most likely intermarried with the other races, and therefore ceased to be pure-blooded whites. Also, the Israelites were instructed to be fruitful and multiply, and God prophecied that the Israelites would greatly increase in number.

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"If the super-jews don't "remember" that they are jewish and adopt the regional culture as you stated earlier, how do they "remember" that they are only allowed to marry other super-jews?"

First off, all the tribes of Israel are NOT "Jewish." Israel was the father of 12 sons, from whom come the 12 tribes of Israel. Judah (from which the word "Jew" originates) was only one of those 12 sons. "Jew" is not a synonym for "Israelite", even though some people use it as such.

Even though the Israelites had adopted other religious beliefs, they probably held onto the belief of maintaining their racial purity and marrying others of their own kind. Also, the Israelites remained geographically isolated from most other races for most of the time following their release from captivity. In this way, many (if not most) Israelites have remained pure-blooded Israelites over the centuries.

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"How many of you are there? Do you just count anybody that's white? Am I jewish even if I don't know it?"

I think the evidence shows that the Anglo-Saxon, Celtic, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples are descendants of the Israelites. There are pure-blooded Israelites in France, Spain, Italy, and other European countries as well.

And again, it's not that they are "jewish." They are ISRAELITES.


[Edited on February 23, 2006 at 11:05 AM. Reason : `]

2/23/2006 10:37:14 AM

CHEESE

2/23/2006 11:25:13 AM

SHOW BLOOD IN THE FACE

2/23/2006 11:35:06 AM

let me translate that

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"(I'm a whiny little bitch and I want to) CHEE[N]SEOR (salisburyboy)"

2/23/2006 11:36:34 AM

i don't even know what that means

like most of your posts

2/23/2006 11:43:56 AM

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"First off, all the tribes of Israel are NOT "Jewish." "

Ok, ok, we get it. You are really splitting hairs on this one. Each of the 12 tribes come from the same man - so it's not like there is a HUUUGE difference between "jews" and "israelites" - speaking in terms of how it was anciently.

2/23/2006 11:58:59 AM

Here's a good one for you, buddy. Compare these two things you said:

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"Also, according to the Bible, Israelites were not to intermarry with other races."

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"Over the many centuries after being taken into captivity, they lost much of their culture, religion, and even the knowledge of their Israelite ancestry. They adopted other religions and languages, and came to be known by different names."

OK, so the reason that all the white folks are still "pure blood" Israelites to this day is that their religion told them not to intermarry, correct? Then just a couple of posts down you say that they adopted other religions. So how did that work out? Was following the "no intermarriage" rule just instinctual?

Explain to me also how a group from the Mediterranean coast, where people are almost uniformly tanned and dark haired, turned into a bunch of fair, blue-eyed crackers. Time or climate? It's simply not possible.

2/23/2006 12:58:27 PM

salisburyboy doesn't know the meaning of the words "not possible".

2/23/2006 1:09:17 PM

its like i'm taking crazy pills

people actually try and debate this guy

ITS NOT LIKE HE USES THE ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA HERE OK

2/23/2006 1:33:06 PM

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"OK, so the reason that all the white folks are still "pure blood" Israelites to this day is that their religion told them not to intermarry, correct? Then just a couple of posts down you say that they adopted other religions. So how did that work out? Was following the "no intermarriage" rule just instinctual?"

Here's what I posted earlier:

Quote :

"Even though the Israelites had adopted other religious beliefs, they probably held onto the belief of maintaining their racial purity and marrying others of their own kind. Also, the Israelites remained geographically isolated from most other races for most of the time following their release from captivity. In this way, many (if not most) Israelites have remained pure-blooded Israelites over the centuries. "

They most likely held onto this belief of maintaing racial purity, and besides (even if they didn't), they were geographically isolated from other races most of the time. It is for these reasons that the Israelites have largely remained racially pure as a group.

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"Explain to me also how a group from the Mediterranean coast, where people are almost uniformly tanned and dark haired, turned into a bunch of fair, blue-eyed crackers."

That's the racial make-up in the Mediterranean region as it is now. But you don't know for sure that there were not at one time fair-skinned white people with blue eyes who lived in Palestine or the modern-day Iraq region. In fact, we know from historical evidence that white "Caucasians" came to Europe from the area around the Cuacasus Mountains. So, based on the best evidence available, it appears whites DID used to live in the middle east area.

Oh, and "blue-eyed crackers." What's with that? Are you developing a hatred for blond, blue-eyed, fair-skinned "nordic" whites all the sudden?


[Edited on February 23, 2006 at 1:45 PM. Reason : `]

2/23/2006 1:33:34 PM

omg those guys are so oppressed!

2/23/2006 2:00:55 PM

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"omg those guys are so oppressed!"

So it's ok to hate blonde/blue-eyed/fair-skinned/nordic whites because you think they aren't oppressed enough?

What am I thinking? Of course it is. That's the daily message coming from the media/Hollywood/government/etc. That's why black hatred of whites is virtually accepted in our society, and the government has official policies that discriminate against whites.

If you hate, despise, and discriminate against whites it's "good", and in some cases the law requires you to do it! And the media encourages hatred of whites with daily propaganda.

BUT, if whites so much as object to this racism against whites from non-whites THEY are labelled "racist/bigots/etc"! You gotta love it. The Jewish-Zionist media has taught the masses well.

2/23/2006 2:53:08 PM

BUT, if whites so much as object to this racism against whites from non-whites blame every problem in the world on satanic jews and on the gang rape of white women by hispanics THEY are labelled "racist/bigots/etc"!

Is your position that whites are superior because they are gods true chosen people?

2/23/2006 2:59:26 PM

Here's two important Bible verses (related to this discussion) I have failed to yet mention:

Revelation 2:9: "I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."

Revelation 3:9: "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."


As for identifying the TRUE Israelites, here is an excellent (and concise) article covering issues related to this subject--including how most so-called "Jews" are not racial Israelites, the Bible and gospel of Jesus (Yahshua) is only for physical (not "spiritual") Israelites, how the Israelites would continue to exist as a people, and an outline of the biblical clues for identifying the Israelites:

Could You Be An Israelite And Not Know It?
http://www.israelect.com/reference/WillieMartin/Could_You_Be_An_Israelite.htm

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"True Israel: God provided Scriptural clues for identifying Israel of old. There is no debate that ancient Israel fulfilled most of these marks and was identified by them. But even more exciting is the fact that these very same features help us to identify Israel today! Listed below are fifteen national geographical and spiritual aspects out of more than a hundred of Scriptural clues that positively identify Israel. Ask yourself, what modern day people do they identify? National Aspects: 1). Israel was to become a great and mighty nation. (Genesis 12:1-3) 2). Israel was to become a vast multitude of people. (Genesis 22:17) 3). Israel was to form a multitude of nations. (Genesis 17:4-6) 4). Israel was to rule over other nations. (Deuteronomy 15:60 5). Israel was to be a blessing to all nations. (Genesis 22:18) Geographical Locations: 6). Israel was to have a new home, other than Canaan Land. (2 Samuel 7:10; 1 Chronicles 17:9; Jeremiah 3:18; 12:15; 16:13-15; 23:3-8; 50:17; Isaiah 14:1; Ezekiel 34:13; 37:21; 39:22-29; Amos 2:15) 7). Israel’s new land was to be inhabited by people gathered from many nations. (Ezekiel 38:8) 8). Israel was to have a land of unwalled villages, without walls, bars or gates. (Ezekiel 38:11) 9). Israel was to have a land of great agricultural wealth. (Deuteronomy 28:8-11) 10). Israel’s land was described as being the “camp of the saints.” (Revelation20:7-9) 11). Israel was to carry the gospel to all the world. (Isaiah 49:3-6; Matthew 24:14; 26:13; Mark 14:9; 16:15) 12). Israel was to be the only nation given God’s Law. (Psalm 49:3-6) 13). Israel was to be blind for the most part to her identity. (Isaiah 42:16-19) 14). Israel was to be called by a new name. (Isaiah 62:1-2) [...] If Israel exists today, as she must, there is only one people whom all these identifying marks fit; and they certainly do not represent the modern day “Jews” They do however, describe perfectly the White Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, Nordic, Celtic peoples; the multitude of nations who became a great nation, with a new home, a new religion, and who have blessed the world with numerous blessings."

2/23/2006 3:49:29 PM

[Edited on February 23, 2006 at 5:21 PM. Reason : don't be a pain in the ass. -theDuke866]

2/23/2006 3:55:38 PM

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"1). Israel was to become a great and mighty nation. (Genesis 12:1-3) 2). Israel was to become a vast multitude of people. (Genesis 22:17) 3). Israel was to form a multitude of nations. (Genesis 17:4-6) 4). Israel was to rule over other nations. (Deuteronomy 15:60 5). Israel was to be a blessing to all nations. (Genesis 22:18) Geographical Locations: 6). Israel was to have a new home, other than Canaan Land. (2 Samuel 7:10; 1 Chronicles 17:9; Jeremiah 3:18; 12:15; 16:13-15; 23:3-8; 50:17; Isaiah 14:1; Ezekiel 34:13; 37:21; 39:22-29; Amos 2:15) 7). Israel’s new land was to be inhabited by people gathered from many nations. (Ezekiel 38:8) 8). Israel was to have a land of unwalled villages, without walls, bars or gates. (Ezekiel 38:11) 9). Israel was to have a land of great agricultural wealth. (Deuteronomy 28:8-11) 10). Israel’s land was described as being the “camp of the saints.” (Revelation20:7-9) 11). Israel was to carry the gospel to all the world. (Isaiah 49:3-6; Matthew 24:14; 26:13; Mark 14:9; 16:15) 12). Israel was to be the only nation given God’s Law. (Psalm 49:3-6) 13). Israel was to be blind for the most part to her identity. (Isaiah 42:16-19) 14). Israel was to be called by a new name. (Isaiah 62:1-2)"

Oh wow. I didn't realize that you could apply vague blanket statements in order to prove something as fact. Well done.

Now check this out:

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"With the moon now in your sign and the positive aspect influencing it, you should feel more complete and at one with the world. This will be great, but it might make you feel a little complacent. Don’t be too cautious about new ideas or suggestions. Not all change is bad."

My horoscope from yesterday made some vague predictions that came true. Therefore, horoscopes always predict the future with 100% reliability.

2/23/2006 4:22:48 PM

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"They do however, describe perfectly the White Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, Nordic, Celtic peoples; the multitude of nations who became a great nation, with a new home, a new religion, and who have blessed the world with numerous blessings.""

Funny. What one culture started them down that road, and ensured the success of that "new religion"? Cause I don't see it up there.

2/23/2006 5:13:59 PM

GOOD FUCKING GRIEF

PLEASE STOP ARGUING WITH THIS GUY

IF YOU STOP
HE'LL STOP

OR AT THE VERY LEAST

HIS THREADS WILL FALL TO THE BOTTOM

FUCKING HELL

2/23/2006 6:17:25 PM

Yeah (s)he has pretty much shown that (s)he is full of it.

2/23/2006 9:51:54 PM

Here you go, salisburyboy.

2/23/2006 10:31:28 PM

For some odd reason all I can think is "I am Malcom X".

2/23/2006 10:54:56 PM

GOOD JOB THEDUKE

2/24/2006 12:10:41 AM

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"but there are also racially "Jewish" people"

study after study has proven you cant classify race by genetics

there is no jewish race, there are no races. there is massive diversity, and some arbitrary classification based on things like skin color.

give it up.

2/24/2006 12:15:38 AM

http://genomebiology.com/2002/3/7/comment/2007/abstract

race is certainly still a helpful concept at least in the medical community

[Edited on February 24, 2006 at 4:59 AM. Reason : .]

2/24/2006 4:58:07 AM

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"there is no jewish race, there are no races."

If there are no races, as you say, then does "racism" even exist?

Quote :

"and some arbitrary classification based on things like skin color"

It's more than just skin color. On the physical level, it's also facial and bodily characteristics. For example, a person's race can be identified from skull characteristics (eg, as done when trying to solve crimes). The races exhibit differences in many other areas as well, including variance in intelligence.

Race DOES exist. "Race" has many definitions, but it can be defined as "A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics" and "A genealogical line; a lineage."

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, the different races cannot have all come from a common ancestor (or from a common group of two parents). It is impossible. Two parents cannot have a black child, a white child, and an asian child. Adam was NOT the first man. There were other races of people on the earth before Adam.

Assuming that Adam was "white", pure-blooded descendants of Adam (or pure-blooded whites) have absolutely no kinship with pure-blooded blacks and pure-blooded asians. In other words, pure-blooded whites, blacks, and asians share no common ancestor. They are distinct peoples of completely different lineage/ancestry.


[Edited on February 24, 2006 at 8:30 AM. Reason : `]

2/24/2006 8:26:13 AM

wow

thats pretty fucking stupid

I saw this red frog...and then this green frog.

theres no way they have common ancestors

[Edited on February 24, 2006 at 9:19 AM. Reason : *]

2/24/2006 9:19:12 AM

^^forget i said anything that remotely agreed with you... that is just painfully retarded

2/24/2006 9:39:45 AM

^ Eh, he's just using the bible to justify his theory that white people are superior. While it's completely fucking retarded, the bible has been used for much worse things. What I really want to know is, why do you need to come up with these batshit insane theories to explain why you are better than other people? Just say it and be done with it. I don't get why you have to drag all this other Christian Identity garbage into it.

The funny thing is, I always thought that SB was just one of those stoned conspiracy theorists, but now I keep imagining him holed up in some fucking shack in Montana with his wife and 50 kids. Which is much scarier than a hippy taking bong rips telling people that hole in the Pentagon was too small for a 747.

2/24/2006 9:55:36 AM

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"Eh, he's just using the bible to justify his theory that white people are superior."

Um, no. The races are the way they are. And the facts are the facts. All I'm doing is trying to get to the truth about these issues. A few years back, I would have never even considered that I may have been a physical descendant of the Israelites, and didn't really want to be one either. I didn't think it even mattered. But after researching issues related to the Bible , I began to discover that the true meaning of the Bible had been lost in faulty translations and/or suppressed and hidden because of false interpretations and false teachings. And I became interested and began to question the "mainstream" views and teachings. What I am interested in is coming to the truth. Whatever the truth may be, then so be it.

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"I saw this red frog...and then this green frog. theres no way they have common ancestors"

That's a bad analogy, and distracts from the issue I'm talking about. I'm talking about the human races. And as I mentioned above, there were races on earth before Adam. If not, why was Cain afraid of being killed after being banished from Eden and how did he find a wife and have descendants of his own? Since Adam was created after these races already existed, he and his pure-blooded descendants have no common ancestry with the other pre-Adamaic races.

And thinking of it from a purely scientific standpoint, one species (or kind) can only have offspring of that same species (or kind). Black people cannot have asian or white children, and white people cannot have black or asian children. This is common sense, and tells you that the races have different ancestry (ie, do not have common ancestors).

Imagine, hypothetically, that there were only 3 groups of people on the earth: pure-blooded whites, pure-blooded blacks, and pure-blooded Asians (this is probably similar to how it once was, and the other mixed or mongrel races resulted from interbreeding between 3 (or more) original groups). Now, if you looked at these 3 races or groups of people, how could you honestly say that they had common ancestors? Who were those ancestors? A brownish people who birthed white, black, and asian children? Or where they monkeys who "evolved" into the current races?

This idea that all humans have a common ancestor is fueled by the completely bogus theory of evolution. Without evolutionary theory, what real basis is there for the assertion that all humans came from a common ancestor? (already having demonstrated that the idea that Adam and Eve are the common ancestors of all humanity is false)


[Edited on February 24, 2006 at 10:45 AM. Reason : `]

2/24/2006 10:22:47 AM

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"Imagine, hypothetically, that there were only 3 groups of dogs on the earth: pure-blooded beagles, pure-blooded dobermans, and pure-blooded wiener dogs."

Before they were genetically isolated, they all looked the same.

You're not after the truth. You're after proving your world view correct. And your world view is so skewed that you have to lump yourself in with people who don't allow their wives to wear pants, teach their children how to use automatic machine guns, bring snakes to church and blow up government buildings.

I know it's nonsensical to argue with you, but it's really everyone's moral obligation to at least try and point out that your philosophy and theories are way off. And even if you were correct, the sects that you are patronizing, and the violence associated with them, don't need any more fuel.

2/24/2006 10:59:21 AM