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Broderick Bunkley was hauling ass

2/27/2006 5:42:35 PM

well, i thought the steelers might take sinorice moss with their first pick, until i read this:

Quote :

"Drew Rosenhaus represents three players in this year's draft and all three -- Michigan defensive lineman Gabe Watson and Miami Hurricanes offensive lineman Eric Winston and receiver Sinorice Moss. All three ran and worked out and really enhanced their position in the draft. Vikings owners, brothers Zygi and Mark Wilf, were also in attendance at the Combine this weekend."

2/27/2006 6:11:38 PM

^three seems low for drew this year

maybe the owens thing hurt his credibility and image a bit

only 2 out of 11 of the canes at the combine too....drew may be in a slump

2/27/2006 6:16:07 PM

of course the owens thing hurt his credibility, how is that even a question?

i would be very reluctant to deal with him if i were an NFL team right now

i liked the idea of the steelers drafting moss too, so that's a shame.

[Edited on February 27, 2006 at 6:20 PM. Reason : ]

2/27/2006 6:20:12 PM

Nall, Craig 2002 Northwestern St. 31
Rodgers, Aaron 2005 California 39

I REALLY DON'T CARE WHAT THE WONDERLIC SAYS

2/27/2006 6:22:51 PM

40-yard dash Manny Lawson NC State 4.43
Ryan LaCasse Syracuse 4.54
Kamerion Wimbley Florida St. 4.61
James Wyche Syracuse 4.63
Mario Williams NC State 4.66

Vertical jump Mario Williams NC State 40½
Manny Lawson NC State 39½
Stanley McClover Auburn 39
Kamerion Wimbley Florida St. 38½
Mike Kudla Ohio State 37

Broad jump Kamerion Wimbley Florida St. 10-foot-9
Manny Lawson NC State 10-foot-4
Mathias Kiwanuka Boston College 10-foot
Mario Williams NC State 9-foot-10
Rob Ninkovich Purdue 9-foot-8
Jeremy Mincey Florida 9-foot-8

20-yard shuttle Mathias Kiwanuka Boston College 4.13
Manny Lawson NC State 4.18
Rob Ninkovich Purdue 4.18
Jeremy Mincey Florida 4.25
Ryan Lacasse Syracuse 4.30
Mario Williams NC State 4.36

60-yard shuttle Manny Lawson NC State 11.08
Rob Ninkovich Purdue 11.33

Three-cone Manny Lawson NC State 6.90
Rob Ninkovich Purdue 6.96
Kamerion Wimbley Florida St 6.97
Jeremy Mincey Florida 6.99
Mario Williams NC State 7.19

http://nfl.com/draft/story/9270956

2/27/2006 6:25:12 PM

Goddamn, Mario is a beast.

[Edited on February 27, 2006 at 6:26 PM. Reason : ,]

2/27/2006 6:26:21 PM

Wow, we are killin kids with this Duo, gotta be the best DE combo in college history


i wonder if a team will be lucky enough to get them both, doubt it but imagine that

2/27/2006 6:37:50 PM

manny's stock has to be skyrocketing right now

2/27/2006 6:42:54 PM

Is anyone surprised?

He should end up as a top-20 pick before its all said and done.

2/27/2006 6:52:12 PM

Top-10 easy.

2/27/2006 7:00:30 PM

I hope you're right but I think you're wrong.


Not a whole lotta teams picking in the top 10 play a 3-4 D.

2/27/2006 7:12:33 PM

Vernon Davis ran a 4.37. Good God.

That's faster than every reciever at the combine, and the guy's 250 lbs.

2/27/2006 7:13:04 PM

Vernon Davis is as much of a freak of nature and Mario and Manny. The kid is sick.

2/27/2006 7:22:23 PM

mario williams at what 270 has a 40 inch vertical....insane

[Edited on February 27, 2006 at 7:37 PM. Reason : k]

2/27/2006 7:37:24 PM

sounds like Boss Bailey

2/27/2006 7:42:01 PM

mario is more like 290-300, now thats insane

2/27/2006 7:59:32 PM

thats more then prob 80% of the nba

2/27/2006 8:17:09 PM

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"Top-10 easy. "

I hope you are talking about mario, b/c they were talking about manny...

2/27/2006 8:33:08 PM

manny will hopefully go in the first round, definitely not top 10 though

2/27/2006 9:05:34 PM

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"mario williams at what 270 has a 40 inch vertical....insane"

He weighed in at 297 at the combine.

2/27/2006 9:10:24 PM

How much did Manny weigh?

2/27/2006 9:56:46 PM

will teams want mario to maybe drop 7 to 10 lbs. for the nfl?? 297 is pretty heavy and his numbers as far as jumps, quicks, etc. could improve just a little maybe if he was say 287-290

maybe not, i am just wondering what yall think

2/27/2006 9:59:36 PM

^^ 247, I believe

2/27/2006 10:01:20 PM

I dont know... at 6'7 i think they'll like him at 300.


In general, the heavier the better as long as its not affecting your speed/quickness too much.

In Mario's case it doesnt seem to be hampering any in those departments...


He's not a pure speed rusher like a Jevon Kearse so i dont really expect him to produce huge numbers his rookie year... he's gonna have to learn technique because strength/speed alone wont make you an impact player as a rookie DE. I'd guess he puts up 6-8 sacks next year and makes the all-rookie team...

2/27/2006 10:03:42 PM

Quote :

"I hope you are talking about mario, b/c they were talking about manny..."

yeah i was talking about mario.

2/27/2006 10:30:15 PM

ya mario is def top ten, and the guy with the mega-lithsp on the nfl network covering the combine projected mario to go top 5. comparing him to Jpep.

2/27/2006 11:18:11 PM

on the NFL site it said Mario has solidified himself as a top 4 pick. I still think he goes #5 but hey the higher the better.

2/27/2006 11:38:24 PM

i don't know, there is a lot of talent this year. but, we'll see.

2/27/2006 11:50:22 PM

In a lot of drafts Mario would go #1, #2, or #3...

he's just a bit unlucky to be coming out the same year as a freakish RB and two of the best QB prospects in the past decade.

2/28/2006 8:24:17 AM

Dang, when did Mario pass Manny in vertical leap? I thought Manny was easily beat him in the vertical, that's very impressive for Mario.

2/28/2006 8:32:16 AM

^^3 of the best quarterback prospects in a while.....Cutler is flying up the draft board of most teams and will probably go as a top 5 pick now

2/28/2006 9:03:29 AM

just got this quote from the Southern Cal message boards

"Said he has fielded some questions about being born cross-eyed, and the surgery to correct it as a child."

This was referring to Matt Leinart. Do NFL teams really care that much about something that stupid? What do they think; that his eyes are going to go cross-eyed again and ruin his career??

2/28/2006 10:49:16 AM

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/closer/020228test.html

here's a wonderlic test, see

2/28/2006 10:49:54 AM

nevermind, helps to read the whole thing

[Edited on February 28, 2006 at 11:38 AM. Reason : ]

2/28/2006 11:37:38 AM

did not miss one, and had some time left in the 5 minutes

that shit is not that bad, but i can see how football players that are stressed out and thought they were done with school shit could do shitty on that test, especially with a time crunch

2/28/2006 11:38:50 AM

The only question I had trouble with was #11. Those questions were pretty easy. I can't be lieve that the best score ever for a QB was 39 out of 50.

2/28/2006 11:49:52 AM

yeah, try taking those after your heart is racing like a horse

2/28/2006 12:00:06 PM

also, we only get to see 15 of the questions. If more of the last 35 are like number 11 then time would probably become an issue for most of us

2/28/2006 12:15:37 PM

Also, you've got dollar signs dancing around your head, hehe.

2/28/2006 12:53:06 PM

Quote :

"I can't be lieve that the best score ever for a QB was 39 out of 50."

Alex Smith got a 40 and Ryan Fitzpatrick scored a 38 after completeing the test in just 9 minutes (the quickest ever)

2/28/2006 1:17:34 PM

Quote :

"Vince Young scored a 6 on his wonderlic test. The wonderlic test is comprised of 50 questions, and is used to determine intelligence, personality, ans psychological health. Now this probably means nothing to many people, but luckily, I have some sample questions straight from the wonderlic website. Question 1: When rope is selling at $.10 a foot, how much rope can you buy with $.60? Question 2: Paper sells for $.21 per pad, how much would 4 pads cost? Question 3: Assume the first 2 statements are true. Is the final one: 1. True 2. False 3. Not Certain The boy plays baseball. All baseball players wear hats. The boy wears a hat. Now I like Vince Young, and i was his biggest fan when Texas played USC. But how can you expect a franchise to spend money on an idiot, even with his brilliant performance in the Rose Bowl. Quarterback is not just a position that takes skill, it also takes intelligence, and right now it appears that Vince Young lacks one of these gifts. When this story first leaked, Vince's agent quickly tried to implement damage control. First he said the test was scored wrong, then he had Vince take the test again and the agent boasted that he scored a 16. WOW. When an agent brags about a 16 on this shit test it really makes me wonder who the idiot is here. Vince will be taking the test for a third time and i'm sure a gold star is in his future. Other scores include a 35 by USC qb Matt Leinart, a 29 by Vanderbilt qb Jay Cutler, and a 6 by Miami rb Frank Gore. Football players aren't known for their brains, but when an autistic kid can inspire us with 20 points in a basketball game, i expect a little more than a 6 from some people on an idiot test."

2/28/2006 1:19:18 PM

not sure if this was said because I skipped to the end... but a lot of the discussion focus'd on the fact that a lot of agents dont even impress upon draft guy's the importance of the test. They said a lot fo times people just sit in the room for the 12 minutes and laugh, This could be why people are getting 0-6's.


I can't imagine any human being that can speak english trying their hardest and only getting 6 right.

most of them dont realize people give a shit about this test.


ps it's 50 questions in 12 minutes.

oh and ... OH MY Manny Lawson NC State 4.43

[Edited on February 28, 2006 at 1:33 PM. Reason : so I know who not to make angry when a quick getaway is a possibility]

2/28/2006 1:31:21 PM

i've taken this test for potential jobs i've been interviewing for. they've never told me my score though

[Edited on February 28, 2006 at 1:37 PM. Reason : i sprinted through all the english/language questions first then slowly went through the math]

2/28/2006 1:37:08 PM

Quote :

"also, we only get to see 15 of the questions. If more of the last 35 are like number 11 then time would probably become an issue for most of us "

that's not really the point.

the point is that young's agent is bragging about a 16 when most of us took 2-3 minutes on the first 15 questions and missed maybe 1.

That means over the next 10 minutes we'd have to succesfuly navigate 1 more question to tie. This is what people are concerned about.

2/28/2006 1:42:08 PM

Quote :

"I can't imagine any human being that can speak english"

not to mention a human who has made it through at least 3 yrs of post-HS education

2/28/2006 1:43:42 PM

i guess the manner in which he made it through those years is being called into question

2/28/2006 1:46:54 PM

"that's not really the point.

the point is that young's agent is bragging about a 16 when most of us took 2-3 minutes on the first 15 questions and missed maybe 1.

That means over the next 10 minutes we'd have to succesfuly navigate 1 more question to tie. This is what people are concerned about."

got ya....i was just referring to the comment about how the best score ever was a 39 by a qb.

question: could something like this really hurt VY's draft stock that much???? how much is this taken into account?

2/28/2006 1:53:04 PM

cold pizza yesterday ? said it could possibly drop him out of the top 10... like the said


of all the positions on the field you dont want a moron playing, QB is it.

2/28/2006 1:58:28 PM

Quote :

"not to mention a human who has made it through at least 3 yrs of post-HS education"

signed

2/28/2006 2:14:46 PM