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3/6/2006 3:52:40 PM

if people are mad that we lost to Wake...well you should be...but that doesnt mean you have to give up on the whole season...what SuperDude is doing is pointing to a few good things about the Wake game...I was definitely encouraged by Gavin's play, especially after going out after Strickland broke his nose...but the fact is we were like 3-22 from behind the arc...if we were 9-22 we would've won...yeah woulda coulda shoulda doesnt matter but you have two choices after watching the last place team in the ACC beat us:

1. Give up on the season, jump off the bandwagon, etc
2. Don't get too frustrated...we still have the ACC tourney coming up and even with a 1st game loss we will be dancing in March

We played all year for one thing...making the NCAA tournament...we made it...now we have just as good a chance as anybody (statistically) to win 6 games in a row and become champs...so complain and yell FIRE HERB or do what Herb and the players have already done...move on

this loss to wake didnt end our season, ok folks...we are still guaranteed to play at least 2 more games this season, and thats assuming we lose both

hey I bet Duke fans are calling to fire Coach K since they have lost 2 straight...its not like they realize they still have the ACC and NCAA tournaments to play in

3/6/2006 3:57:47 PM

To be honest, watching NC State play is like me playing golf. I go out and I hit a bunch of great shots, but then when it comes down to it, I find the goofiest ways to miss the easy ones. You just have to laugh and keep going. No sense getting so upset over a 21-8 season. It's disappointing to drop the last three of the regular season, but you just have to laugh because that is NC State's luck. We're getting better year-by-year. Just relax.

GO WOLFPACK!!!!

3/6/2006 4:03:13 PM

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" well SandSanta, you act like our losses to UNC are extra extra horrible because they were by like 20 points...however the fact that we only lost some games, ie Boston College and Georgia Tech, by 2-3 points doesn't make them any less horrible losses than the UNC game...textbook definition of being a hypocrite...but why would I expect you to make any sense "

Actually thats not the the "textbook definition of being a hypocrite", in fact this entire sentance doesn't even make sense.

Are you like saying all losses are bad so my harping on the UNC loss somehow makes me a hyporcritical?

Wait, do you even know what that means?

3/6/2006 4:35:24 PM

haha

3/6/2006 4:42:48 PM

a. learn how to spell sentence
b. you think the UNC losses are extra bad due to margin of victory...yet you dont think the close losses to other teams are any more redeeming

do you even know what "hypocrite" and "hypocrisy" mean? or are the only words you know "jihad" and "terrorist"

3/6/2006 5:04:22 PM

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"btw, last year we lost our last regular season game to Wake also...I think we bounced back ok"

wake record for 05-06 coming into this game 14-15
wake record for 04-05 coming into this game 25-4

lets guess, one of these teams is not like the other?

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"hey I bet Duke fans are calling to fire Coach K since they have lost 2 straight...its not like they realize they still have the ACC and NCAA tournaments to play in"

awesome breakdown, duke going into these games ranked what? #1, with a record of like 27-1? im sure that is the same as NCSU situation? right?

3/6/2006 5:08:38 PM

Typo on sentence. Sorta like "hypcrisy".

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"you think the UNC losses are extra bad due to margin of victory...yet you dont think the close losses to other teams are any more redeeming"

I was actually waiting for you to pull some contorted logic out of your ass. All losses are bad to me but the UNC loss was the worst due to margin of defeat. That's not hypocritical at all.

To quote myself in reference to our suckage:

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"Clearly I need massive basketball IQ to note we've lost three games in a row starting with a blow out."

I actually stated the truth here. I'd love to know how that comes off as "hypcrisy."

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"do you even know what "hypocrite" and "hypocrisy" mean? or are the only words you know "jihad" and "terrorist""

Copy me more? I also love the random attempt at an insult which pretty much signifies you've got nothing to back up my "hypcrisy."

[Edited on March 6, 2006 at 5:16 PM. Reason : >f<]

3/6/2006 5:15:21 PM

^you're just trolling then you get mad when i call you out...only thing I said you did hypocritical was to say the UNC loss was really really bad because of the margin...yet you dont think the BC and GT losses were any better even though they were by 2 and 3 points respectively

^^yeah cause being 21-5 going into our 3 game losing skid was so horrible...i mean...21-5 with a top 15 ranking...what kind of shitty record and position to be in is that? I mean, NC State wont even make the NIT since we were in such a shitty position going into those games

btw, did you go to the Wake game? no? i did so stfu

3/6/2006 5:19:23 PM

Are you like, retarded?

3/6/2006 5:20:53 PM

you wanna talk about state basketball or are you gonna keep acting like a faggot

3/6/2006 5:21:41 PM

You must be retarded. Thats the only possible explanation.

3/6/2006 5:22:21 PM

can you stick to talking about anything relative or are you gonna force me to call for your suspension in feedback forum? sounds like all you're doing is trolling and you wouldnt care about being suspended from TWW anyway

btw this is SPORTS TALK not chit chat

[Edited on March 6, 2006 at 5:24 PM. Reason : SPORTS TALK]

3/6/2006 5:24:16 PM

Go ahead and call for my suspension.

It's not going to make our basketball team any better.

3/6/2006 5:25:23 PM

what did you say? just you just use the words "basketball" and "team" in this thread? damn there might be hope for you yet

3/6/2006 5:26:52 PM

http://www.brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=392542

Peace <3

3/6/2006 5:31:23 PM

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"by 2-3 points doesn't make them any less horrible losses than the UNC game...textbook definition of being a hypocrite...but why would I expect you to make any sense"

First of all, I really don't think you know what the word hypcrite means.

Secondly, the losses to UNC, BC and Wake weren't any better because they show that:

A) We can't even begin to run with Carolina who is either a good team or a very good team
B) We can hang with Boston College when they play like shit -- watching the BC game was like watching the Iowa game all over again. Both teams play shitty, but one team has to win.
C) We aren't playing well enough with the personnel we have to beat the absolute worst team in the ACC.

The thing is we haven't played well for over three weeks now. Simmons hasn't played well since the Duke game. Our best player, Bennerman is injured. Evtimov who, say what you will, helps our offense run best isn't 100%. Grant is about as up and down as they come with how he'll perform on any given night, and the rest of our guys aren't good enough to make up the difference.

While we may not have been a bad team when we stomped through our first couple of big games, we haven't been the same team since Duke and we haven't been anywhere near good these past three weeks.

So you'll have to excuse myself and some other fans if "margin of victory" and "barely losing" isn't something we cling to joyously.

3/6/2006 5:55:59 PM

still easily the stupidest fucking thread ever

3/6/2006 5:59:18 PM

the purpose of this thread is to let people know our last 3 losses were only regular season games and they dont matter as much as they could if we didnt already have an NCAA tourney bid on lock

SandSanta was hypocritical by saying the UNC loss was worse than an average loss simply because it was by such a large margin of victory...yet he didnt acknowledge that a 2 point overtime loss to a top 15 team in BC was less than an average loss...seems like cut-and-dry definition of "hypocrite" to me

and you say "We can hang with Boston College when they play like shit"...do you not remember us going to their house and beating them by 18 points?

again, nobody is enjoying a close loss...but some people are acting like those losses just knocked us out of the NCAA tourney, which they clearly did not

3/6/2006 5:59:35 PM

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"SandSanta was hypocritical by saying the UNC loss was worse than an average loss simply because it was by such a large margin of victory...yet he didnt acknowledge that a 2 point overtime loss to a top 15 team in BC was less than an average loss...seems like cut-and-dry definition of "hypocrite" to me"

Yes, well you're not very bright, so I'm sure lots of things that you consider "cut-and-dry" are what most of us would consider "absolutely idiotic".

Believe it or not, the BC loss (despite how close it may have been) was just as bad a loss because even though we didn't get blown out, we sure as shit didn't play well. You see, there are other factors involved than just margin of loss. The Carolina game was especially bad since instead of just losing like we did against BC, we got absolutely destroyed.

It's not like we barely lost to a Top 15 team in a hard-fought, great basketball game. We lost to them because on that day, they happened to suck just a little less than we did. There is no way you could watch that game, come back from it and say "Man -- yeah, we lost to a really good team, but at least we gave our best effort against a team that was really playing great"

That's called being delusional. You can look that one up in the dictionary if you have some trouble with it.

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"and you say "We can hang with Boston College when they play like shit"...do you not remember us going to their house and beating them by 18 points?"

I don't know, it's kind of hard to remember that game since it was almost two months ago and before the Duke game, which we've never recovered from, which was my entire point.

We were a good team then. We are not as good now.

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"again, nobody is enjoying a close loss...but some people are acting like those losses just knocked us out of the NCAA tourney, which they clearly did not"

No, but they certainly don't make us look "good" or "remotely competitive" going into the tournament.

[Edited on March 6, 2006 at 6:08 PM. Reason : .]

3/6/2006 6:07:49 PM

alright well i'll save you a spot on the bandwagon if you wanna jump back on in a week or so

btw you left your dictionary on the bandwagon, you might need it

3/6/2006 6:09:37 PM

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"I don't know, it's kind of hard to remember that game since it was almost two months ago and before the Duke game, which we've never recovered from, which was my entire point."

we've never recovered from the Duke game? are you fucking kidding? 7 out of our 10 conference wins came after that game.

And you're right, we don't look as intimidating as we did back then. But, we've always seemed to play our best when we are the underdogs and nobody gives us a chance. guess what? we're there now.

[Edited on March 6, 2006 at 6:14 PM. Reason : quote]

3/6/2006 6:11:05 PM

no no...Stein is going out on a limb but I think he is onto something...I think he is saying we are better when we have Bennerman than when we dont...damn I never thought of that

just like Stein said, we were a good team then...like when we lost to Iowa, we were a good team...when we won 6 out of 7 ACC games after our Duke loss, we were not as good a team

3/6/2006 6:14:13 PM

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"so complain and yell FIRE HERB or do what Herb and the players have already done...move on"

Move on? Everything I've seen about the game says our guys had "just gave up on life" written all over them at Wake.

3/6/2006 6:36:03 PM

im saying the players and herb are not harping on the wake loss...they are looking ahead to either FSU or Wake in the tourney...its only the fans who are harping on the losses...the team are preparing for the next game

3/6/2006 6:42:07 PM

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"we've never recovered from the Duke game? are you fucking kidding? 7 out of our 10 conference wins came after that game."

We have NOT played well since the Duke game. The only time we looked like we might be returning to pre-Duke form was the FSU game....but that didn't last.

We looked like a very good team earlier in the season, but we've played like crap for a long time now. I really hope they get things turned around before Friday--and that Cam's ready to play.

3/6/2006 6:51:38 PM

to the original question.......no, no i'm not.

3/6/2006 6:52:59 PM