u botched that

4/16/2006 11:52:38 PM

the strangest thing that i've noticed when exiting a building, no matter where i go

women do not like to hold the door open for anyone within a few paces behind them

4/17/2006 12:32:01 AM

I try to if I'm paying attn. But I've had a guy let the door go in my face as he followed his wife through the door my bf was holding.

4/17/2006 12:42:22 AM

Page two of this thread and not one link to any sort of research. I'd contribute, but know nothing of sociology/where to begin looking.

4/17/2006 5:49:25 AM

Try moving to a Southern town that you don't know anyone in and tell me how nice and un-clicky you think people are.

Just because they will wave to you as you drive by doesn't mean they want to talk to you.

People are not different because of their geographical locations, you have a-holes everywhere. Southerners just often hide the fact behind a smile and a wave.

4/17/2006 8:08:23 AM

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"Try moving to a Southern town that you don't know anyone in and tell me how nice and un-clicky you think people are. Just because they will wave to you as you drive by doesn't mean they want to talk to you. People are not different because of their geographical locations, you have a-holes everywhere. Southerners just often hide the fact behind a smile and a wave. "

it still just depends on the person. I moved from upstate NY to a rural area between Sanford and Fayetteville. My parents went to the local bank to open an account an the woman they talked to was very friendly and invited us to come to her church and did everythign in her power to help us get settled into the area. We started attending that church and the majority of the people were very friendly and welcomed us. But there were also a few uptight dicks that didn't want anything to do with us "yankees".

From my general experiences everywhere it is mostly a generational difference. Older people are generally friendly and polite. But younger people are the often quite rude and mean to other people. You could say that that is just because they are young and will grow out of that and some do, but I see more and more people in the 30 - 40 year range that are still way. I can't really see them changing once they get that old.

4/17/2006 8:51:03 AM

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"why do they think that tea tastes good with no sugar"

haha

4/17/2006 9:16:56 AM

Hahaha you are all yankees to me

In all honesty though, people are a lot nicer in America then they are in my homeland.

4/17/2006 10:22:20 AM

yeah I think the rural south is nicer except for the rednecks and the suburban douth is nicer too but northerners... eh I haen't been impressed so thats been my eperience. And Midwest instead of being mean or nice they just ignore you.

4/17/2006 3:33:37 PM

If someone is seriously interested in researching this you might try looking up "decline of social capital." Maybe the generalization persists because people think the South = Mayberry.

4/17/2006 3:39:06 PM

the hilarious shit about this is, northerners don't give two shits about southerners

but i'll be damned if you dont always hear yankee this, yankee that

civil war boo hoo, losing the right to collar blacks left such a sour taste in your mouths didn't it

4/17/2006 3:45:35 PM

NEWSFLASH:

people are rude everywhere

4/17/2006 3:45:40 PM

Thanks for flamebaiting, McDanger. Anyway, yea, the Civil War lingers in southerners' minds because you tend to get hung up on the fights you lose. All this shit came from way out in left field. Anyway...

My thoughts are just as "baseless" as anyone else's since I've hardly traveled anywhere really far away other than Disney World and NYC, and since I didn't get pistol-whipped by Mickey, all I can do is shrug. I just think if you're looking for rude Yankees, you'll find them. But you tend to forget about someone from here being a southern asshole and instead, they're just an asshole. When you come across something that confirms your thinking, you can't hardly wait to scream "A-ha!" but you forget everything else that's contradictory.

4/17/2006 10:54:24 PM

funny story. My friend moves from the Portal Oregon area in 6th grade. One of the first days of class the teacher tells him something and he said "yes". She gets pissed off he didnt say "yes Mam" and hes like "wtf bitch"

true story

4/18/2006 12:03:38 AM

so, what is a southener

4/18/2006 11:52:55 AM

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"funny story. My friend moves from the Portal Oregon area in 6th grade. One of the first days of class the teacher tells him something and he said "yes". She gets pissed off he didnt say "yes Mam" and hes like "wtf bitch" true story"

My fiance's family thought I was extremely rude for not calling family members "ma'am" and "sir" when we first met. There was a lot of talk behind my back about how I come from a different culture and thus did not have good manners. I am from South Florida, and even though it's technically in the "south", no one talks like that down there. I never thought my behavior was rude because I seriously thought only characters in Mayberry said things like "ma'am" and "sir".

4/18/2006 12:11:16 PM

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""I never thought my behavior was rude because I seriously thought only characters in Mayberry said things like "ma'am" and "sir""

I grew up in Mt Airy NC (aka mayberry) with ma'ams & sirs, but gave it up when I came to Raleigh for the most part. Feels kind of out of place to do it here with professors and the like. Although I don't think it would be unacceptable considers there is significant number of country people here ma'aming & siring ppl.

In my experience there are good people and bad people everywhere. A southern might have different social expectations so they have more trouble recognizing the good people from the north (and the reverse would be true of northerners considering ppl from the south)... but just b/c you have trouble recognizing there are just as many good people in other areas doesn't mean they aren't there.

4/18/2006 12:22:57 PM

I grew up in Raleigh, and my parents tried to get me to do my ma'ams and sirs, but it didn't work, even when they tried to pay me a nickle every time I said it

4/18/2006 1:58:44 PM

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"South = Mayberry."

it isn't? oh wait...


*says the former mayberry resident

4/18/2006 2:13:08 PM

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"and my parents tried to get me to do my ma'ams and sirs, but it didn't work,"

me too, but oddly enough some where along the line I started saying it, and now its gotten to be more habit than politeness.

4/18/2006 3:14:11 PM

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"the hilarious shit about this is, northerners don't give two shits about southerners but i'll be damned if you dont always hear yankee this, yankee that"

southerners don't invade the north like the damn yankees invade the south. If its so great above the mason dixon, and everything is so shitty down here, save us both the trouble and don't move here.

4/18/2006 3:17:18 PM

every time ive been to the midwest or the north ive gotten flack about being from the south
from many different people

i dont even really have an accent, but as soon as they find out the conversation goes to how the south lost

4/18/2006 3:19:57 PM

^always happens to me too, i was in maine last summer, and it was like i was an alien. the first words out of everyone's mouth were "you're from the south aren't you".

with that said, everyone was really nice after we got past boston.

[Edited on April 18, 2006 at 3:24 PM. Reason : .]

4/18/2006 3:24:00 PM

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"you're from the south aren't you"

omg!! how dare they utter such words!?

4/18/2006 3:28:45 PM

^never said it was bad, yank.

[Edited on April 18, 2006 at 3:30 PM. Reason : ^]

4/18/2006 3:30:13 PM

I don't need to write a thesis to know that this thread is retarded and should be moved to chit chat.
Sincerely,
Skack the Southern Asshole

4/18/2006 3:37:57 PM

i got more than "youre from the south arent you"
i got all the usual insults

4/18/2006 3:40:16 PM

i never got any outright insults, to my face anyway, i've been as far west as montana/wyoming and arizona, and as far north as maine. all in all, every one was pretty nice, they talked with me about were i was from, but none were assholes or anything.

one lady in a store in upstate new york couldn't understand what i was asking for one time, she seemed peeved, but i was just asking for a spoon. not sure how she didn't understand me.

4/18/2006 3:48:26 PM

because your accent is fucking atrocious, that's why

[Edited on April 18, 2006 at 3:51 PM. Reason : .]

4/18/2006 3:51:24 PM

thanks again, yank. why don't you go drive your caa to the paak.

4/18/2006 3:53:59 PM

hey i was born in rocky mount

so suck my cock

i just dont talk like a fucking dumb ass

4/18/2006 3:55:43 PM

sure do act like one though.

4/18/2006 3:58:53 PM

Socialists

4/18/2006 4:17:43 PM

the southern accent has world-renown for being the accent of fucking morons

4/18/2006 4:19:36 PM

nah, thats the redneck accent, and the redneck accent is everywhere in the US

4/18/2006 4:20:09 PM

the northern accent has world-renown for being the accent of fucking morons

4/18/2006 4:20:57 PM

new jersey meatheads and people with really bad cockney accents sound worse than rednecks

4/18/2006 4:21:57 PM

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"nah, thats the redneck accent, and the redneck accent is everywhere in the US"

so true, but what about the pacific NW? i've never had the pleasure of visiting.

4/18/2006 4:23:54 PM

“southerners don't invade the north like the damn yankees invade the south. If its so great above the mason dixon, and everything is so shitty down here, save us both the trouble and don't move here.”

This statement could just as easily be recast as southerners don’t get out much or aren’t comfortable with different environments but I think the main point is that there are good and bad people in both places.

4/18/2006 4:26:05 PM

^i know but the north/south debate is so intriguing, its fun to stir the pot.

4/18/2006 4:31:18 PM

It seems like one of these North vs. South threads pops up every month or so here in the lounge.

4/18/2006 4:34:01 PM

we havent had a good bbq thread in awhile

4/18/2006 4:36:35 PM

4/18/2006 4:37:15 PM

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"compared to asshole yankees we are nicer and more hospitable."

4/18/2006 4:38:31 PM

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"southerners don't invade the north like the damn yankees invade the south. If its so great above the mason dixon, and everything is so shitty down here, save us both the trouble and don't move here. "

ive lived all over the entire goddamn country and Raleigh was the ONLY place people ever talked about the north vs. the south

from my experience, people usually dont give a fuck about where you came from unless you keep bringing it up, over and over again

4/18/2006 4:49:48 PM

you should move again, b/c nobody wants you here, yank.

4/18/2006 4:58:54 PM

haha i've been called a yankee before

4/18/2006 5:01:26 PM

^^ first of all, I was born in NC

and second of all, I did move

moron

4/18/2006 5:07:27 PM

ive never lived anywhere but nc and my family is definetly from the south

4/18/2006 5:10:39 PM

the only reason they "invade" the south is cuz they have a higher standard of living up there and want to retire somewhere warm, where the money will last. it has nothing to do with any of the goons that live here.

[Edited on April 18, 2006 at 5:14 PM. Reason : .]

4/18/2006 5:14:13 PM