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6/12/2006 7:49:31 PM

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"THEY HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD ADVICE NOR LOGICAL THOUGHT PROGRESSION WHEN IT COMES TO SOCIALIZING"

Well, I don't know anything about socializing, just personally, but I do know how to maximize my drinking experience. And I guarantee that I've made at least as much back in free drinks as I've offered in tips.

6/13/2006 3:02:11 AM

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=2085903&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

you guys that bitch about tipping bartenders....make sure you read the section on how bartenders will scam you. This is how the industry is. This is what is going on behind the bar at your favorite sports bar or your downtown nightclub and you have no clue it's even going on.

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6/17/2006 4:16:10 AM

i think i use to give like a dollar per beer, back when i'd drink like 10 or so beers

[Edited on June 17, 2006 at 4:22 AM. Reason : .]

6/17/2006 4:18:07 AM

hahaha, which bar pissed you off? the stuff in that story happens very very rarely.

6/17/2006 4:18:16 AM

i dont know man... i think it happens more often than you imagine.

maybe not to you, because you're not stupid.

but theres always a few drunk, obnoxious fools out there, ready and waiting for some annoyed bartender to double charge.

6/17/2006 4:30:44 AM

whats really good is if you can find someone having a party at playmakers and put like 4 drinks and 2 jager bombs on it

that shits free

6/17/2006 4:32:32 AM

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"a little over a week ago i was at stool pigeons "

Here's your problem.


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6/17/2006 9:09:39 AM

^^^ yeah i know it never happens to me, hahaha. but im saying i worked in the foodservice industry for ages, and i saw lots of dumb shit happen. but the stuff listed there doenst happen much at all.

6/17/2006 2:04:04 PM

As far as the shorting on the liquor that probably only happens in tourist traps. Any bar I spend a great deal of time in I would certainly wonder why the fuck I am completely sober after 3-4 drinks.

6/17/2006 2:07:57 PM

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"The tricks are even smoother when you move over to the bar, because things happen faster there, according to Pickhardt and Collins. "See, the bartender, he's the ground zero of scam," Collins said. "He may give you three quarters of a shot, instead of a shot and a quarter. You don't know the difference, because you didn't watch him" "Or he might come back with a bottle of his own and fill up the top shelves with some cheap stuff that he picked up at the store," said Pickhardt "You make the strawberry daiquiri but you don't put any alcohol in it. You just pour a little bit of the strong stuff down the straw. They take that first whopping sip and whoa! This is a strong daiquiri. Psychologically, again, they think they got a great deal and a strong drink when in fact they got a fraction of a shot, freeing up the rest of that shot to be scammed by the bartender," said Collins."

See that's the whole point you guys don't get, you might not see it happening or it might not happen to you.... but ask any bartender that posts on this board. If you have ever been visibly drunk at the bar, then you have had a big target on your chest. This is how working in a bar goes down.

6/17/2006 2:37:42 PM

^wow. i'm a bartender. and i've never seen either of those things happen. i'm not saying it doesn't happen, but maybe you should choose the places you drink at a little more carefully. really though, i know a lot of bartenders and i doubt any of them have done anything that shady. Of course, there are the bastards that treat us like we are beneath them... and you can't blame someone for wanting to retaliate.

And stiffing your bartender is a slap in the face, just like it would be to a waiter, we aren't paid that much /hour. It varies place to place, but mostly only a little more than a server.

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" I DON'T TIP BARTENDERS....THEY MAKE ENOUGH MONEY ALREADY "

too many ppl think that

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" the better you tip me...... A. the stronger your drinks will be B. I will serve you first when I have a bar full of people"

damn straight

6/17/2006 3:00:54 PM

That article had some extremes. Straining the cigarette butts out of Hollandaise? I don't know. The part about replacing top shelf with Aristocrap was interesting though. But seriously, if you are concerned about getting a fair shake with drinks, get a bottled beer. Learned that with Rum Runners. I'd see the bartender pouring some kind of alcohol, but it must have been alcohol flavored water. After 3 rum and coke's in about a half hour, I ordered a damn Bud Light and said, "Oh, I remember now, this is what a buzz is like."

6/19/2006 2:12:44 AM

whenever i get my drinks from the secondary bar at rumrunners, i always get strong ones.

6/19/2006 2:20:27 AM

so basically, if you have a ton of money, you could like be king of a bar

shit i'd give the bar tender like a 50 dollar bill and be like whats up?

6/19/2006 3:27:27 AM

yeah i hate how bars always use aristocrap

6/19/2006 10:54:13 AM

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"Learned that with Rum Runners. I'd see the bartender pouring some kind of alcohol, but it must have been alcohol flavored water. After 3 rum and coke's in about a half hour, I ordered a damn Bud Light and said, "Oh, I remember now, this is what a buzz is like.""

6/19/2006 11:01:48 AM

I stopped doing tabs, I had dealt with more than enough shares of more drinks added on to my tab and I have to drive downtown to get it fixed.
I just pay in cash and tip in cash.

6/19/2006 11:31:25 AM

even drunk id notice that shit, they cant fool me.

6/19/2006 11:41:12 AM

Depends, once my tab gets justifiably over $100 I dont think I would notice them fucking around.

Anything less than $50 I can kind of keep track of in my head (and am in a better position to).

6/19/2006 11:47:22 AM

im not that big of a drunk luckily (and im not that generous to my friends)

6/19/2006 11:53:36 AM

where do you bartend at Jello???

you are only 21....once you have been a bartender at multiple places you will see it eventually.

Almost any downtown bar b/c usually bartenders downtown have been bartending for quite a few years, they know how to make their $500 a night.

6/19/2006 1:54:31 PM

I HAVE BEEN WORKING DOWNTOWN FOR SOME TIME NOW AND I SURE AS HELL DON'T MAKE $500 A NIGHT NOR DO I KNOW ANYONE ELSE WHO DOES AND I WORK AT ONE OF THE BUSIEST BARS DOWNTOWN...I MEAN WE ALL PULL SOME SHADY STUFF BUT NOT THAT SHADY!!

6/19/2006 3:07:24 PM

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"I HAVE BEEN WORKING DOWNTOWN FOR SOME TIME NOW AND I SURE AS HELL DON'T MAKE $500 A NIGHT NOR DO I KNOW ANYONE ELSE WHO DOES AND I WORK AT ONE OF THE BUSIEST BARS DOWNTOWN...I MEAN WE ALL PULL SOME SHADY STUFF BUT NOT THAT SHADY!!"

the people that are doing it keep it quiet - they don't brag to people - so it could be happening and you have no idea

6/19/2006 3:08:37 PM

I COULDN'T SEE IT HAPPENING AT ANY OF OUR PLACES.....THE OWNERS RUN A PRETTY TIGHT SHIP.....IF THE BARTENDERS WERE STEALING THAT MUCH MONEY FROM THE RESTURANT THEN MANAGEMENT WOULD SURELY FIND OUT AND HAVE IN PREVIOUS CASES....

6/19/2006 4:31:19 PM

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"where do you bartend at Jello??? you are only 21....once you have been a bartender at multiple places you will see it eventually. Almost any downtown bar b/c usually bartenders downtown have been bartending for quite a few years, they know how to make their $500 a night. "

Where the fuck have you worked??

I've worked at several bars and restaurants and haven't seen any of this shit. I think I've seen one cocktail waitress that had a drunk guy leave like 10 bucks for the tip but the total would have made it like 15. I told her to put what the total was. That's about it.

6/19/2006 5:28:46 PM

my policy is to not drink at bars enough for this to be much of an issue

6/19/2006 6:51:03 PM

haha, i tipped a bartender $10 on a $15 tab the weekend before last... and i have no idea why

6/19/2006 7:09:39 PM

^That's not that big of a deal.

6/19/2006 7:28:48 PM

only 66%

6/19/2006 7:40:25 PM

It was only a $15 dollar drink tab.

You might have tipped more than the average drinker...but a bartender wouldn't take a second look at that receipt.

6/19/2006 7:56:12 PM

I was refering to the way alcohol is poured behind the bar, not scamming credit cards (that is def something very dumb to do). Jello said she had never seen any of this stuff in her bartending career:

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""The tricks are even smoother when you move over to the bar, because things happen faster there, according to Pickhardt and Collins. "See, the bartender, he's the ground zero of scam," Collins said. "He may give you three quarters of a shot, instead of a shot and a quarter. You don't know the difference, because you didn't watch him" "Or he might come back with a bottle of his own and fill up the top shelves with some cheap stuff that he picked up at the store," said Pickhardt "You make the strawberry daiquiri but you don't put any alcohol in it. You just pour a little bit of the strong stuff down the straw. They take that first whopping sip and whoa! This is a strong daiquiri. Psychologically, again, they think they got a great deal and a strong drink when in fact they got a fraction of a shot, freeing up the rest of that shot to be scammed by the bartender," said Collins.""

Like I said earlier

the better you tip me......

A. the stronger your drinks will be

B. I will serve you first when I have a bar full of people"

and in order to take care of part A you are going to end up scamming alcohol away from shitty tippers and drinks coming in on tickets from servers on the floor.

Which brings me to my next point...If you are going to get drinks, get them directly from the bartender. I always watch the bartender pour my drinks when I am out and 9 times out of ten I watch bartenders underpour the drinks going out to the floor.

6/20/2006 3:54:12 AM

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"Which brings me to my next point...If you are going to get drinks, get them directly from the bartender. I always watch the bartender pour my drinks when I am out and 9 times out of ten I watch bartenders underpour the drinks going out to the floor. "

I PERSONALLY LOVE HOW NO ONE UNDERSTANDS THIS CONCEPT...I WORKED SERVICE AT HI 5 LAST NIGHT FOR THE GAME AND MOST OF THOSE DRINKS HAD VERY LITTLE ALCOHOL....ACTUALLY MOST PEOPLE'S DRINKS HAD LITTLE TO NO ALCOHOL....EVERYONE WHO WAS OUT LAST NIGHT WAS SO DRUNK THEY HAD NO IDEA

6/20/2006 9:29:42 AM

wow I never want to spend money at a bar again. what a pathetic sector of society bartenders and waitresses are.

6/20/2006 9:43:16 AM

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"I PERSONALLY LOVE HOW NO ONE UNDERSTANDS THIS CONCEPT...I WORKED SERVICE AT HI 5 LAST NIGHT FOR THE GAME AND MOST OF THOSE DRINKS HAD VERY LITTLE ALCOHOL....ACTUALLY MOST PEOPLE'S DRINKS HAD LITTLE TO NO ALCOHOL....EVERYONE WHO WAS OUT LAST NIGHT WAS SO DRUNK THEY HAD NO IDEA"

so you saved a corporation money that in no way helped you or will ever further your career in the service industry in any way - gg for being a pawn

6/20/2006 10:46:43 AM

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"Almost any downtown bar b/c usually bartenders downtown have been bartending for quite a few years, they know how to make their $500 a night. "

yeah, its pretty common for bartenders with a few years experience to be making over $100k a year.

6/20/2006 10:49:47 AM

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"so you saved a corporation money that in no way helped you or will ever further your career in the service industry in any way - gg for being a pawn "

AS LONG AS MY BAR MGR MAKES "BAR COSTS" AND GETS HIS BONUS THEN HE DOESN'T GIVE ME A HARD TIME ABOUT HOOKING MY FRIENDS UP SO ACTUALLY IT DOES HELP ME IN THAT WAY.....STIFFING OTHER PEOPLE HELPS US SO WE CAN GET FREE DRINKS OURSELVES WHEN WE GO IN SO...............PAWN OR NO PAWN.....I LIKE FREE DRINKS AND I LIKE NOT BEING FIRED SO FUCKING OTHER PEOPLE OVER IS A WIN WIN....

WHEN PEOPLE GET A WEAK DRINK AND THEY ARE ALREADY DRUNK THEY DRINK IT FASTER WHICH MEANS THEY ORDER MORE DRINKS AND MEANS MORE TIPS....SO WHEN YOU HAVE 5 BARTENDERS DOING THAT IT ADDS UP

6/20/2006 11:21:42 AM

not to say the fucks on here tip for shit anyways - but i'd say if they were going to - they won't tip you anymore

6/20/2006 11:24:42 AM

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"AS LONG AS MY BAR MGR MAKES "BAR COSTS" AND GETS HIS BONUS THEN HE DOESN'T GIVE ME A HARD TIME ABOUT HOOKING MY FRIENDS UP SO ACTUALLY IT DOES HELP ME IN THAT WAY.....STIFFING OTHER PEOPLE HELPS US SO WE CAN GET FREE DRINKS OURSELVES WHEN WE GO IN SO...............PAWN OR NO PAWN.....I LIKE FREE DRINKS AND I LIKE NOT BEING FIRED SO FUCKING OTHER PEOPLE OVER IS A WIN WIN...."

Wow, you're a real piece of shit.

6/20/2006 12:45:55 PM

LUCKILY TWWERS DON'T COME IN TO RED ROOM VERY MUCH.........ALTHOUGH THERE WERE A LOT OF UGLY CHICKS IN THERE LAST FRIDAY SO I COULD BE WRONG

6/20/2006 12:46:01 PM

nevermind god damnit

[Edited on June 20, 2006 at 1:04 PM. Reason : .]

6/20/2006 12:51:28 PM

^I'M NOT SURE WHERE YOU WERE GOING WITH THAT ONE????

NICE TRY THOUGH..IDIOT

6/20/2006 1:15:30 PM

hahaha, funny shit.

hey nate i'll be looking for the hook up next time i'm in town (with liston)

6/20/2006 1:32:15 PM

6/20/2006 2:16:02 PM

^I AM SAVING THAT ONE......I WILL PRINT IT UP AT WORK

6/20/2006 2:17:07 PM

GOOD

6/20/2006 2:17:57 PM

6/20/2006 2:42:25 PM

Dear Ihatespida,

Your caps lock is broken.

Sincerily,

The InterWeb Police

PS: You sound like a shitty bartender. No wonder you dont make much.

[Edited on June 20, 2006 at 2:59 PM. Reason : .]

6/20/2006 2:58:09 PM

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"Almost any downtown bar b/c usually bartenders downtown have been bartending for quite a few years, they know how to make their $500 a night."

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"yeah, its pretty common for bartenders with a few years experience to be making over $100k a year"

6/20/2006 7:04:09 PM

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"Sincerily"

6/20/2006 8:18:31 PM