GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN, TREETWISTA

6/27/2006 12:40:56 PM

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"yeah maybe because everybody knows what its like to lose their temper its just some people can control themselves unlike the killer you are feeling sorry for"

She pushed the white woman down out of anger. She didn't mean to kill her. There was no intent. Typically when someone pushes someone else down, unless its off the side of a building or something along those lines, they don't mean to kill that person. It should be and is a manslaughter charge because there was no intent.

6/27/2006 12:42:08 PM

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"WWGD - what would Gandhi do?"

probably go without a meal or two

6/27/2006 12:42:13 PM

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"She pushed the white woman down out of anger. She didn't mean to kill her. There was no intent. Typically when someone pushes someone else down, unless its off the side of a building or something along those lines, they don't mean to kill that person. It should be and is a manslaughter charge because there was no intent."

i'm not arguing that...i'm saying people should be responsible for their actions

if you CHOOSE to push somebody down you never know what could happen

but its your CHOICE and your responsibility

6/27/2006 12:43:22 PM

didn't she get punished

or did i miss something

6/27/2006 12:44:04 PM

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"TreeTwista10: [Edited on June 27, 2006 at 12:40 PM. Reason : boldfaced killer since theres such a huge moral difference to you in 'murder' and 'kill']"

There's a huge difference, dumbass. HUGE.

6/27/2006 12:44:14 PM

ma'am, why did you push down that blind lady and kill her?

SHE CALLED ME A NAME!!!!

bridget, why are you defending this killer?

CAUSE SHE'S A "KILLER" NOT A "MURDERER"

SHE ONLY INTENDED TO ASSAULT A STRANGER, KILLING HER JUST KIND OF HAPPENED

v way to resort to namecalling when your points get shot down...hey isnt that what you accused me of doing?

6/27/2006 12:44:47 PM

StrawTwista

6/27/2006 12:45:04 PM

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"i'm not arguing that...i'm saying people should be responsible for their actions if you CHOOSE to push somebody down you never know what could happen but its your CHOICE and your responsibility"

And didn't she get punished? Yes she did. So whats your argument?

6/27/2006 12:45:49 PM

my argument is why the hell would you feel sorry for her?

because "you know what its like to lose your temper"?

gimme a break

6/27/2006 12:46:58 PM

it was a hate crime

6/27/2006 12:47:17 PM

i think the punishment is a bit too light here

there should definitely be some counseling + a lot more hours of community service + maybe some more jailtime

6/27/2006 12:47:32 PM

I think the terms are somewhat fair considering that this woman had no prior history of crime.

I don't subscribe to the idea that we need to lockup everyone and the judge showed admirable restraint in the case. She should be placed on two years probation though.

6/27/2006 12:48:51 PM

Really, 200 hours of community service and $35,000 restitution? That's absurd! She took the life of a human being, second degree murder, and all she gets is some community service and ordered to pay about or less than 1 year's income. Something is wrong with the judicial system. She was 39 years old, and she shoved a 52 year old-shouldn't she be out of the kindergarten retaliation stage by now? And this "I feel sorry for someone who can't control their temper" is bullshit, she didn't mention having any anger problems so lets not make excuses.

6/27/2006 12:53:26 PM

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"There's a huge difference, dumbass. HUGE."

kill ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kl)
v. killed, kill·ing, kills
v. tr.

To put to death.
To deprive of life:

mur·der ( P ) Pronunciation Key (mûrdr)
n.
The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.


HUGE fucking differences...they're virtually opposites...HUGE difference, dumbass. HUGE

6/27/2006 12:54:01 PM

^The fact that you don't see the HUGE difference is part of what makes you so pathetic.

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"TreeTwista10: my argument is why the hell would you feel sorry for her? because "you know what its like to lose your temper"? gimme a break"

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"sympathy: A feeling or an expression of pity or sorrow for the distress of another; compassion or commiseration."

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sympathy

What is so hard about this that you can't understand it?

[Edited on June 27, 2006 at 12:56 PM. Reason : sss]

6/27/2006 12:55:57 PM

the fact that you have sympathy for this woman makes you more pathetic...compassion...however you want to describe it...its pathetic...yet when a US soldier kills an enemy soldier in wartime, its tragic and unacceptable...but a woman losing her temper in the grocery and killing a woman...oh man, i feel so sorry for her

you're unbelievable

and somehow I'm labelled as the troll who argues just for the sake of arguing

fucking ridiculous

6/27/2006 12:56:56 PM

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"bethaleigh: And this "I feel sorry for someone who can't control their temper" is bullshit, she didn't mention having any anger problems so lets not make excuses."

LOL, so you're suggesting she pushed the woman on purpose in order to kill her?

6/27/2006 12:57:40 PM

I DIDNT INTEND TO WRECK MY CAR INTO THAT SCHOOLBUS AND KILL 20 CHILDREN

MY INTENT WAS NOT THAT SO ITS OK

6/27/2006 12:58:18 PM

Bottom line: Justice has not been served.

I wonder how many more incidents like this will occur before there is a mass violent demonstration.

All I know is, if it were my mother in this case, the bitch would have never made it to the courtroom.

6/27/2006 12:59:32 PM

well, uh, intent kind of does play a role in what you're charged with

6/27/2006 1:00:01 PM

imagine that, treetwista turned another thread to shit.

6/27/2006 1:00:02 PM

^^^^Nobody's saying that it's okay.

^^^LOL, you should have said, "my bottom line..."

^^Exactly.

^I shouldn't have responded to him.

[Edited on June 27, 2006 at 1:01 PM. Reason : sss]

6/27/2006 1:00:16 PM

^^^ Try telling that to the office of student conduct

[Edited on June 27, 2006 at 1:01 PM. Reason : .]

6/27/2006 1:01:06 PM

^Either explain that or quit trying to make a joke that compares our justice system to student fucking conduct.

6/27/2006 1:02:35 PM

1) I don't have to explain anything to you

2) The only joke on here is your ignorance

[Edited on June 27, 2006 at 1:07 PM. Reason : .]

6/27/2006 1:05:53 PM

Bridget-LOL, No. I'm saying that she's old enough to know better, and she's not in kindergarten anymore. You don't bully around older people, or anyone for that matter. It's rediculous that she would do such a thing.

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"I DIDNT INTEND TO WRECK MY CAR INTO THAT SCHOOLBUS AND KILL 20 CHILDREN MY INTENT WAS NOT THAT SO ITS OK"

Exactly. Just because she didn't have the intention to kill the older lady IN FRONT OF HER DAUGHTER does not make it ok.

[Edited on June 27, 2006 at 1:11 PM. Reason : ]

6/27/2006 1:08:03 PM

imagine that, people see TreeTwista10 to the leftside of a post and completely ignore any rationale and reason in the post because i posted it

6/27/2006 1:08:41 PM

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"Crazywade: 2) The only joke on here is your ignorance"

So this:

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"Crazywade: ^^^ Try telling that to the office of student conduct "

wasn't an attempt at a joke?

6/27/2006 1:08:53 PM

MANDATORY LIFE SENTENCES FOR "BULLYING"

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"Exactly. Just because she didn't have the intention to kill the older lady IN FRONT OF HER DAUGHTER does not make it ok."

someone quote somebody in this thread saying it was totally cool to push this lady



[Edited on June 27, 2006 at 1:13 PM. Reason : .]

6/27/2006 1:11:08 PM

No, i meant what I said

Whether its funny or not is for you to decide.



[Edited on June 27, 2006 at 1:12 PM. Reason : .]

6/27/2006 1:11:22 PM

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"Crazywade: No, i meant what I said Whether its funny or not is for you to decide."

Oh, okay, then my response would have been: QUIT COMPARING STUDENT CONDUCT TO OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM. THE TWO ARE NOT COMPARABLE IN THIS CASE, DUMBASS.

6/27/2006 1:14:26 PM

So, is it your intent to put me down by calling me a dumbass?

6/27/2006 1:17:07 PM

Put you down? I'm just calling you what you're acting like...dumbass.

6/27/2006 1:20:51 PM

^^more like he's calling you a dumbass for comparing student conduct to an actual criminal justice system

[Edited on June 27, 2006 at 1:21 PM. Reason : ^^]

6/27/2006 1:21:43 PM

Someone loses their temper and physically assaults a woman in a grocery store because she was provoked by a tasteless verbal remark...the person she assaulted was a blind lady and clearly was not a physical threat...so the lady who loses her temper pushes her down forcefully...the altercation kills the lady after about a weeks time

Don't even think about the fact that a woman couldn't control her temper and took the life of someone in a grocery store

just remember its TreeTwista10 who posted it, so he's gotta be a troll who uses strawmen, he can't ever have a valid point

6/27/2006 1:25:21 PM

believe it or not, people were talking about this before you entered into the thread. get over yourself.

6/27/2006 1:26:22 PM

well look who it is. You seem to follow my posts in this thread.

I knew someone who dealt with SC who had an incident where he/she was accused of something they "intended" to do and was found GUILTY for this, even though there was no evidence....just what someone said.

6/27/2006 1:26:49 PM

student conduct does not have to hold to the same legal standards as a criminal court.

6/27/2006 1:27:55 PM

anybody who doesnt think the criminal justice system is a joke is mistaken

and student conduct...i actually think it might be more effective than our criminal justice system but i dont know

6/27/2006 1:30:39 PM

^^and obviously not the same intelligence standards either

^and no

[Edited on June 27, 2006 at 1:31 PM. Reason : .]

6/27/2006 1:30:55 PM

^^you must not have had much experience with them.

[Edited on June 27, 2006 at 1:31 PM. Reason : ^^]

6/27/2006 1:31:14 PM

i chose to see Zelna and Cousins instead of the "student council" of your "peers"

i KNOW the peer council is a bunch of powertripping kids so i didnt go there

6/27/2006 1:35:36 PM

I wasn't referring to just the peers

I heard Cousins was a little more diplomatic than the rest of the zealots in the office.

[Edited on June 27, 2006 at 1:40 PM. Reason : .]

6/27/2006 1:39:19 PM

well that was my experience for saying that student conduct (what I meant was the Cousins aspect of SC) might work better than the criminal justice system

because the criminal justice system DOES NOT work

6/27/2006 1:42:40 PM

The fact that she didn't intend to kill the woman is why she could plead to manslaughter. Involuntary manslaugter is a Class F Felony in NC. In NC a class F felony's MINIMUM imprisonment time is 10 Months on a mitigated sentence.

What is the reasoning for reducing the sentence further?

6/27/2006 2:40:46 PM

BECAUSE THE JUDGE IS BLACK DURRR

6/27/2006 2:43:33 PM

kill. whitey.

6/27/2006 2:50:56 PM

who the hell goes around pushing elderly blind ladies?

6/28/2006 8:38:30 AM

who the hell thinks 52 is elderly?

6/28/2006 8:40:43 AM