TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I bought all the albums.
I think Green would be just fine if it wasn't Weezer. There are some decent hooks, and as a 25-minute sugar album it works...but not as a Weezer album.
Maladroit has a few decent songs, but a few stinkers, too.
Make Believe is 90% shit.
From a band that made two essentially perfect rock albums that are completely different, I expect more and I keep getting less, and THAT is why people are pissed." |
Okay I agree with that statement.7/25/2006 1:35:41 PM |
Ronny All American 30652 Posts user info edit post |
I think people are just starting to wise up and realize that they are a shitty band and completely devoid of any remarkable talent.
Also, nerds listen to Weezer. Gorillaz and Weezer are the two essential bands for nerds/dorks. 7/25/2006 2:42:40 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
haha i remember when that clint eastwood song came out going into 11th grade, it was crazy 7/25/2006 2:50:56 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
Dammit.
According to Pitchfork, Weezer is not breaking up. http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/news/Weezer_Deny_Breakup_Rumors#38098
Fuck. 8/22/2006 4:02:50 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
wasn't that covered nearly a month ago in this thread? 8/22/2006 4:08:45 PM |
Ronny All American 30652 Posts user info edit post |
OH SNAP! CALLED OUT! 8/22/2006 4:12:14 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, someone covered the Pitchfork post from TODAY, a MONTH AGO. 8/22/2006 4:14:54 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Friday, July 21, 2006 To the =w= fans What is up with all the crazy bad journalism drawn from Rivers interview? I can assure you that =w= is fully intact. I know this because I am in Weezer. The glaring proof that today's media is shallow reveals itself in this simple fact: not one person called me to ask my opinion. Which is cool cuz I would have made up some fantastic lie about becoming an Antarctic explorer" |
8/22/2006 4:23:55 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, I realize that this information may have been posted earlier.
But now Pitchfork has reported it, and considering how everyone has a hard on for them, and the fact that the previous sources weren't the most credible, I decided to post the new story.
Is that okay with you? 8/22/2006 4:28:09 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Pitchfork has sucked for years. No one has a hard on for them. 8/22/2006 4:56:35 PM |
Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and the fact that the previous sources weren't the most credible" |
I'm not sure how you can get much more credible than two of the actual band members8/22/2006 5:23:24 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
Well, that's what we thought when Rivers said the band *was* breaking up. Evidently the band members can no longer be trusted.
But crappy internet news can.
Look, I don't know where the line is drawn, I was just posting what I thought was relevant information. And now it has been posted, and we can all put this ugly incident behind us. 8/22/2006 5:33:03 PM |
Ronny All American 30652 Posts user info edit post |
Weezer is a fucking terrible band. 8/22/2006 5:41:09 PM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
^ while i think everyone would agree that weezer is now a terrible band, to say that pinkerton is in any way a terrible album is incorrect 8/22/2006 5:54:46 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3CDJBKW8
new rivers demo, 'pigs'
not bad, queer ass make believe vocals though :\ 4/14/2007 3:04:38 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
weezer is one of those bands i know i can pick on cause they suck
[Edited on April 14, 2007 at 3:10 PM. Reason : /troll- "my music is better than yours"] 4/14/2007 3:09:43 PM |
El Nachó special helper 16370 Posts user info edit post |
I'd be interested in knowing how Ernie posted in a thread that hadn't been posted in in almost 8 months. 4/14/2007 10:54:43 PM |
firmbuttgntl Suspended 11931 Posts user info edit post |
They used to make quality, so this might've an impact in earlier years.
But, right now, it's like saying Blur might break up. 4/14/2007 11:04:03 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/43874-weezer-really-not-breaking-up-recording-new-album
Quote : | " In an attempt to atone for the mortal sin that was "Beverly Hills", Weezer have hopped back in the recording saddle with plans to have a new album out by this time next year. Seems all that breakup chatter last year did indeed amount to naught.
The news comes from a post yesterday on Weezer's official website, courtesy of dream date Rivers Cuomo himself-- oh excuse me, I mean "R-dawg", as he apparently wants to be known.
Writes R-dawg, in a message addressed to "Party-People": "Weezer is just polishing up a batch of songs for a recording session that is going to start at the beginning of July. This will be the final recording session for our 6th album which we aim to put out in the first half of 2008. We hope you are all having good times."
Thanks R. We were.
This album number six will be the follow-up to 2005's Make Believe, which we can only wish was just that.
In related news, that guy Matt Sharp, who used to be in Weezer back when they were good, has revived the Rentals. M-dawg and band plan to hit us with the Last Little Life EP on August 14; they're on tour now." |
R-dawg???!!!???6/26/2007 4:47:04 PM |
Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
Here's the music he has been into lately:
Quote : | " Akon, House and Trance (1.FM-Club), Tim McGraw, eminem, hall &; oates, a very tentative flirtation with Bob Dillan, Ne-Yo, michael jackson, Abba, Weezer's mix-CD, 80's, T-pain , Fergie, R.Kelly, Killers" |
REALLY MAKES ME OPTIMISTIC.6/26/2007 4:50:40 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
COME THE FUCK ON R-DAWG6/26/2007 4:51:53 PM |
needlesmcgir All American 2427 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Weezer was finished ten years ago." |
For the win. Pinkerton was fantastic, and then it all went to shit because rivers couldn't handle people being critical of the new album and the comparisons between the first and second. The "biz" was upset that it didn't sound exactly like the blue album, but people who like music freaking loved it (I loved it).6/26/2007 4:55:31 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
phew, when i first read ^, i thought you were talking about the green album and i almost went on a benoit like rage, but after a re-read i completely agree 6/26/2007 4:58:29 PM |
Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "a benoit like rage" |
haha6/26/2007 5:00:16 PM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Weezer plan to hold off from hopping the greatest-hits bandwagon," |
which would be what? a 2disc package with the blue album as disc 1 and pinkterton as disk 2?
i also own all the albums. the green album was a decent first listen with no replay value. and i loved the first two. last maladroit and make believe just blew6/26/2007 5:05:51 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
i too own all the albums, along with a few bootlegs
but none of the last 3 are in my itunes library 6/26/2007 5:08:49 PM |
JohnnyTHM All American 18177 Posts user info edit post |
weezer's genre is dead...they killed it with pinkerton. angst rock is long gone, and since we can't have it back, weezer in its true form cannot come back. and since we live in a society that wont let bands reinvent themselves, weezer will never be good.
same goes for smashing pumpkins. 6/26/2007 5:12:30 PM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
i dono it depends, there are bands that have 'reinvented' themselves into something GOOD and thats fine. (heck weezer sort of reinvented themselves from the blue album to pinkterton). Codeseven is a great example of this. They got very popular on the college scene back in the day with their earlier stuff having a heavy sound. They came back with their next 2 albums sounding NOTHING at all like their early stuff but every single one of their CDs is solid. 6/26/2007 5:17:01 PM |
JohnnyTHM All American 18177 Posts user info edit post |
codeseven werent objects of worship like weezer and smashing pumpkins...they can transition and reinvent because they'll only find new fans anyways. 6/26/2007 5:26:00 PM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
I posted this in another thread, but it may be more relevant in this one:
Quote : | "After Matt Sharp left, Weezer became The Rivers Cuomo Band." |
6/26/2007 5:59:14 PM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
ttt 1/28/2008 2:24:09 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/news/48311-rivers-cuomo-plays-in-celebrity-charity-soccer-game
Quote : | "It may seem slightly incongruous to imagine nerd king Rivers Cuomo of Weezer sliding into cleats and bicycle kicking his way onto a soccer field next to professional athletes, Carlos Mencia, and that "Extreme Makeover" guy with the frosted tips. But hey, charity makes people do funny things from time to time.
Cuomo took to the field at the Home Depot Center in Carson, California Saturday afternoon (January 26) for the Mia Hamm and Nomar Garciaparra Celebrity Soccer Challenge. Yep, the guy from Weezer. The one in the sweater, with the butterfly!
Still, score one for Team Geek, quite literally: According to ESPN.com, Cuomo netted his team's first goal. Rivers told ESPN, "It was a dream come true. Passing with [the L.A. Galaxy's] Landon Donovan and going against [former soccer pro] Mia Hamm -- it's just unreal. I was terrified, but I was so excited that the excitement overcame the terror."
Who's that funky dude staring back at you now, Rivers? It's all you, buddy! GOOOOOALLLLLL!!!
Cuomo's team was coached by the L.A. Dodgers' Garciaparra and also included skateboarding video game mogul/occasional skater Tony Hawk, actor Anthony LaPaglia, comedian Carlos Mencia, former pitcher Jim Abbott, and many others.
Alas, the ragtag bunch couldn't deliver the win, staying competitive throughout but losing late to a squad consisting of Hamm, Ty Pennington, Andy Samberg and Seth Meyers of "Saturday Night Live", baseball player Mike Lieberthal, actress Elisabeth Shue, actor Milo Ventimiglia, and others.
Win or lose, it was for a good cause, as proceeds from the event went to Children's Hospital Los Angeles via the Mia Hamm Foundation. " |
1/28/2008 2:25:35 PM |
Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
While we're at it
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/48163-interview-rivers-cuomo
Quote : | "Pitchfork: Can you elaborate on what a more experimental Weezer record might sound like?
RC: Longer songs, non-traditional song forms, different people writing and singing, instrument switching, TR-808s, synths, Southern rap, and baroque counterpoint-- for starters." |
And also, http://www.riverspodcast.com1/28/2008 3:08:57 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
U DON'T LIKE TO GET CRUNK? 1/28/2008 3:33:48 PM |
WillemJoel All American 8006 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Weezer was finished ten years ago." |
and TR-808s??? are they collabing with D-Nice??1/28/2008 7:58:26 PM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
there's some drum machine stuff on the newest song on that rivers cuomo cd
it's one of the worst songs ever put to tape 1/28/2008 7:59:56 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
They already tried the rock/rap thing once (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t74OnwgOzU). It's about as bad as you'd imagine it to be.
and wtf pitchfork, do your homework
[Edited on January 28, 2008 at 8:04 PM. Reason : ] 1/28/2008 8:02:02 PM |
Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
Also, a little song called "Beverly Hills" 1/28/2008 8:06:24 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, that too. I've done all I can to forget that song was ever written. 1/28/2008 8:07:59 PM |
WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i too own all the albums, along with a few bootlegs" |
'I'll bring home the turkey if you bring home the bacon'
mostly agree about the first two albums being all that really mattered, they had some good b-sides and stuff that was on the blue deluxe edition
there were always one or two songs that I liked a lot in every subsequent album, but nothing like the first two
and beverly hills is total trash, dnl you can hardly comment in this thread if you only know say it ain't so, hash pipe, and that shit song
[Edited on January 28, 2008 at 8:34 PM. Reason : ]1/28/2008 8:33:08 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
I love Weezer, but definitely downhill after the first two
Tired of Sex and Pink Triangles rule 1/28/2008 9:28:32 PM |
WillemJoel All American 8006 Posts user info edit post |
shit, Pinkerton FTMFW 1/28/2008 9:35:30 PM |
Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
So this thread got me thinking. Knowing all of the b-sides, demos, and other recordings are out there (and ignoring the hundreds of demos Cuomo has recorded that have never been heard), could I make Weezer's career suck a little less? The answer I think is a definite yes. It still gets weak at the end, but I think their legacy would be a hell of a lot better if things had gone something like this. Most of these songs are from the appropriate time frames, with a little shifting every now and then.
1994 - The Blue Album - AS IS (41 minutes)
1996 - Souvenirs, Novelties, Party Tricks (40 minutes) 1. Ooh 2. Mykel and Carli 3. Lemonade 4. Chess 5. Mrs. Young 6. Souvenirs, Novelties, Party Tricks 7. Susanne 8. The Purification of Water 9. I Need Some Touch 10. Jamie 11. Lullaby for Wayne 12. Wanda (You're My Only Love) 13. Paperface
1998 - Pinkerton - AS IS (35 minutes)
2000 - Songs from the Black Hole (approx 34 minutes) 1. Blast Off! 2. Who You Callin' Bitch? 3. Oh Jonas 4. Please Remember 5. Come to My Pod 6. Oh No This is Not For Me 7. Superfriend 8. Superfriend (Reprise) 9. Waiting On You 10. She's Had A Girl 11. Dude, We're Finally Landing 12. Now I Finally See 13. I Just Threw Out the Love of My Dreams 14. Devotion 15. You Won't Get With Me Tonight 16. What Is This I Find? 17. Longtime Sunshine 18. Longtime Sunshine (Special Coda Mix)
2002 - Homie (34 minutes) 1. Don't Let Go 2. Autumn Jane 3. Photograph 4. Hey M' Darlin' 5. Sheila Can Do It 6. You Gave Your Love to Me Softly 7. Think About 8. Lover in the Snow 9. Sunshine O 10. Crazy One 11. The Prettiest Girl in the Whole Wide World
2005 - One Thousand Soviet Children Marching Toward the Sun (40 minutes) 1. Perfect Situation 2. We Go Together 3. Keep Fishin' (single version) 4. Slob 5. This is Such A Pity 6. The Damage in Your Heart 7. Everybody Wants A Chance to Feel All Alone 8. The Other Way 9. Pig 10. I Was Made For You 11. Haunt You Every Day 1/29/2008 2:04:04 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
Slob rules too... 1/29/2008 2:42:47 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Rivers and Weezer have a lot of good unreleased stuff, but there's a whole lot of the Homie and Kitchen Tapes/pre-Blue Album that sucks major dick. 1/29/2008 2:47:40 PM |
miska All American 22242 Posts user info edit post |
Today around noon the WKNC DJ dedicated "The World Has Turned and Left Me Here" to TWW 1/29/2008 3:13:43 PM |
mrlebowski All American 9310 Posts user info edit post |
bring back matt sharp please 1/29/2008 3:30:54 PM |
Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
They invited Matt Sharp back. Twice. He declined and has also said he hasn't listened to the last 3 albums but if they sucked they would probably suck even if he was still there. I'm not sure I agree with that, but I do think that fans overblow Matt Sharp's contributions to those first two albums to a great degree. 1/29/2008 3:34:50 PM |
mrlebowski All American 9310 Posts user info edit post |
it's possible, but I do think he added that quirkiness that has seemed so forced on the last few albums. That, and it's just easier to blame the absence of Matt Sharp then to admit that Weezer blew their load with the first two albums and will never be good again 1/29/2008 3:38:52 PM |
Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
My theory is that what the band has been missing without Sharp is someone to point out what is good and what sucks. It's become pretty clear that everyone in the band has shit taste in music, and Rivers especially has no idea what his best material is. So now you have people like Rick Rubin telling him what songs he should record and how he should approach music and whatnot. And then you've got the current bassist Scott Shriner, who seems like a pretty god damn cool guy, but really doesn't seem to know much about music and just wants to "rock". I feel like if Sharp was around maybe he would say "No, I'm not recording Beverly Hills because it sucks balls and you've written much better stuff." I'm probably completely wrong about this. 1/29/2008 3:45:31 PM |