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Josh8315
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in the bible

7/31/2006 11:31:51 PM

TreeTwista10
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where in the bible does it talk about climate change? please cite reference for the idiots

7/31/2006 11:32:21 PM

Josh8315
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Matthew 7:13-14

7/31/2006 11:33:41 PM

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Quote :
"7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it
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no i dont think thats it

7/31/2006 11:34:57 PM

Josh8315
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its all right there

7/31/2006 11:35:37 PM

Josh8315
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Revelation 16:8,9

“And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire. And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.”

7/31/2006 11:36:25 PM

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"God, which hath power over these plagues"


so God has power over global warming

so we cant do anything about it

thanks for enlightening me that God is causing global warming

you lose

7/31/2006 11:36:49 PM

Josh8315
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no you have to read it in context

go back and read the entire book

7/31/2006 11:38:10 PM

TreeTwista10
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you deny that the passage i quoted is true? you deny that He controls global warming? you are going to burn in hell for your blasphemy

7/31/2006 11:39:18 PM

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Stop being so sarcastic and devil's advocate-y, Josh####

7/31/2006 11:39:28 PM

TreeTwista10
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he just found out that God has power over global warming...go easy on him

7/31/2006 11:40:35 PM

Josh8315
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not if God commands you do so^^^

[Edited on July 31, 2006 at 11:41 PM. Reason : 43]

7/31/2006 11:41:36 PM

TreeTwista10
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Fox News is completely conservative right wing biased

especially Allan Colmes

7/31/2006 11:42:46 PM

Josh8315
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ive never heard of Allan Colmes

7/31/2006 11:49:36 PM

TreeTwista10
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how about Alan Colmes?

7/31/2006 11:50:13 PM

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Alan Colmes is a toolbag, and the only pundit on fox that doesnt advocate bombing San Francisco or whatever O'Reily said.

7/31/2006 11:51:56 PM

Josh8315
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^^never heard of him either

i watch hannnity, oreily and cavuto every night though.

[Edited on July 31, 2006 at 11:53 PM. Reason : 234 ]

7/31/2006 11:52:37 PM

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^^wait you mean Fox News, the 100% biased 100% conservative tv station has a liberal on there? I'm sure mediamatters.org has a conservative working for them then, dont they?

you watch Hannity but havent heard of Alan Colmes...

7/31/2006 11:52:55 PM

Josh8315
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yes....and?

7/31/2006 11:53:57 PM

TreeTwista10
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ok you're getting really boring

7/31/2006 11:59:32 PM

Josh8315
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you dont know that.

8/1/2006 12:02:58 AM

TreeTwista10
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yeah i do

your trolling went from mildly amusing to typical and boring...you fail

8/1/2006 12:03:41 AM

Josh8315
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So? So? So?

8/1/2006 12:04:18 AM

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This devolved rather quickly.

And also Josh, the same types of foods will grow, even with a hotter climate. They'll simply grow elsewhere. It isn't that hard...

8/1/2006 8:25:08 AM

Josh8315
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i know....just look at mars....they've got plenty of crops

8/1/2006 9:01:59 AM

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The Gorgotron has destroyed our armies and villages and people and all of our pets and he has laid waste to our craps.

8/1/2006 9:12:47 AM

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Josh, Mars is cold...not hot

But, global warming isn't this catastrophic "day after tomorrow" kinda thing. Temperatures rise a few degrees, which changes landscapes. So instead of corn in Iowa, it grows in Canada.

Oh no!

8/1/2006 9:14:37 AM

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not this shit again

8/1/2006 9:37:03 AM

Josh8315
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^^ you dont know that.

8/1/2006 12:16:41 PM

bgmims
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I don't know that?

Well then, tell me what will happen during this global warming crisis. Also, feel free to cite "The Day After Tomorrow" as scientific.

And how about we only talk about how it'll affect it over the next 150,000,000 year or so, rather than the "whole earth will be covered in water" fiasco that may happen in a billion or so.

8/1/2006 1:34:50 PM

Jere
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"The Day After Tomorrow" was a stupid movie.

Does that give you the right to be a moron?



[Edited on August 1, 2006 at 1:39 PM. Reason : a ]

8/1/2006 1:39:02 PM

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Nope, but it represents the kind of irrational fears behind the Earth's mean temperature rising a couple degrees. Yes, it will have massive impacts. Yes, it might make parts of the earth unlivable. But it will also make other parts of the earth livable. That's the way a GLOBAL even works. So, the hardiness zones shift around a bit over the next 1000 years. Big fucking deal.

The sea-rise is a problem, but we're not talking about next week. And it isn't like we're hurting for space in the middle of the country.

8/1/2006 1:45:30 PM

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The problem is that we have to live through the changes. Which is going to cause war and famine.

And I have to agree with bgmims here, while I do think we are massively contributing to global warming, there is no current PROOF that we are the cause. Climatologists will be quick to tell a warming trend happens over 1000, 5000, 10000 years, not 50. 50 years is a complete drop in the bucket and can be caused by completely natural conditions.

8/1/2006 1:50:17 PM

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"Climatologists will be quick to tell a warming trend happens over 1000, 5000, 10000 years, not 50. 50 years is a complete drop in the bucket and can be caused by completely natural conditions."


Yea, but isn't that also an argument for global warming.? I mean, isn't a rapid change in a few decades even more evidence of a problem because normally changes like that take thousands of years?

[Edited on August 1, 2006 at 1:56 PM. Reason : normally har]

8/1/2006 1:55:45 PM

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""it's not global warming""


http://mediamatters.org/items/200608010003

8/1/2006 2:50:46 PM

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"The problem is that we have to live through the changes. Which is going to cause war and famine. "

Only if you want it to.

Both war and famine are human induced events.

8/1/2006 3:53:39 PM

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emailed to me this morning:

http://www.transbuddha.com/mediaHolder.php?id=1147

8/1/2006 3:54:48 PM

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we're actually just coming out of a mini ice age. earth is still in a "cool" period right now. its all one big cycle.

8/1/2006 11:48:18 PM

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8/1/2006 11:51:24 PM

Josh8315
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^^ do you have a source for that claim?

[Edited on August 1, 2006 at 11:59 PM. Reason : ^^^ lol]

8/1/2006 11:55:54 PM

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"god told me that humans are too cocky in thinking they understand how the earth works based on a small stitch in time's worth of data"


800,000 years. Vostok.

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"but some of the natural science teachers at NC State told me there really wasn't the broad consensus of the cause of the warming"


I'd be curious to know which ones. Really. I have a degree from MEAS at NC State.

There is of course some debate on causes- but many that dispute humans as the initial cause actually agree that anthropogenic inputs augment and enhance the severity of global warming by several orders of magnitude.

8/2/2006 12:46:37 AM

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Pat Robertson:

"We really need to address the burning of fossils fuels. It's getting hotter and the ice caps are melting. And there's a buildup of carbon dioxide in the air ... the most convincing evidence I have seen on global warming in long time."



Agree or burn in hell.


[Edited on August 4, 2006 at 8:47 PM. Reason : 34]

8/4/2006 8:41:08 PM

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This baffles me...

Scientists have been saying so for years.

But a heatwave is what convinces him?

8/5/2006 12:35:11 AM

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i believe he said it was the buildup of CO2

8/5/2006 12:40:06 AM

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But this is new, right?

I've never heard him say anything in favor of it before.

8/5/2006 12:42:56 AM

Josh8315
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well heat waves arent new

8/5/2006 12:43:59 AM

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No, I mean his comments are new and a reversal from his previous stance (omg flip-flop)

And it just so happens to coincide with a major heatwave.

8/5/2006 12:49:09 AM

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i know. and my point is, there have been many heat waves in the past, if that was the catayst, it should have happened long ago.

8/5/2006 12:50:26 AM

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Are we sure it was a flip flop? Pat strikes me as one of those religious nuts taking responsibility for God's creation...

8/5/2006 8:52:00 AM

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"Scientists as a group aren't fit to tell us what is true in other fields than their own. Otherwise, they wouldn't be so specialized."


But economics majors are, of course. And computer science majors. Unlike scientists, they know a little bit about every field.

8/5/2006 11:43:25 PM

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