NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Actually A-Rod has a gold glove caliber year last year at 3rd..
** for those eligible only 3 had better fielding % (he only had 12 errors)
[Edited on September 21, 2006 at 6:21 PM. Reason : x] 9/21/2006 6:20:41 PM |
NCSUMEB All American 2530 Posts user info edit post |
No one will win an AL gold glove other than Chavez at 3B for thext 4-6 years, you can take that to the bank 9/21/2006 6:47:33 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Johan had to win tonight to lock up Cy Young and have a chance at MVP.
Dye is losing votes too since Sox are likely done.
Papi, Morneau, or Jeter now. 9/21/2006 11:58:26 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
I still think Johan for AL Cy Young even with Boston upping his ERA 9/22/2006 10:00:32 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "No one will win an AL gold glove other than Chavez at 3B for thext 4-6 years, you can take that to the bank" |
Of course not. Just like no one will win NL SS over Vizquel. There is too much politics in the gold glove voting but that doesn't mean people can't have gold glove CALIBER seasons.9/22/2006 10:52:17 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
^^Oh yeah he is the Cy frontrunner.
I was just saying he could have locked it up with that game.
Also his chances for MVP probably went out the window too. 9/22/2006 1:44:09 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
probably...unless he tosses a no-hitter sometime in one of his last ~2-3 appearances 9/22/2006 1:45:15 PM |
PackMan03 All American 4594 Posts user info edit post |
AL MVP: Morneau or Jeter or Ortiz NL MVP: Pujols or Howard AL Cy Young: Santana NL Cy Young: Carpenter or Webb AL ROY: Verlander or Weaver (too bad for Papelbon and Liriano) NL ROY: Ramirez or Uggla or Zimmerman
The only given is Santana. All the other races are still tight in my opinion 9/27/2006 10:34:09 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Liriano has just as good of a chance as Weaver does.
Id say AL ROY is Verlander easily. 9/27/2006 11:13:42 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Give Pujols the MVP already. Let me give you an interesting stat: strikeouts......Howard has 180 and Pujols has 50. Which one would you say is an MVP??? Plus he is a better fielding first baseman.
Quote : | "He's also hitting .397 with runners in scoring position, while Howard is hitting .239 in the same situation." |
Plus Albert has 26 game winning RBIs while Howard only has 17. And now Pujols SHOULD be in the postseason and Howard is not. 10/1/2006 12:33:07 AM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
^and Pujols is the only player worth a shit on his team that is going to the playoffs. He cant do everything, and you can NOT argue that Howard is more important to his team. The cardinals dont sniff the playoffs w/out Pujols. 10/1/2006 12:40:44 AM |
Sousapickle All American 3027 Posts user info edit post |
so when does this shit come out? 10/28/2006 3:48:27 PM |
The Dude All American 6502 Posts user info edit post |
^ 11/2/2006 11:18:35 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
AL Gold gloves were today...NL gold gloves tommorrow.
It is a different award each day from here on out, MVP is last. 11/2/2006 11:20:08 PM |
AlbertPujols Starting Lineup 80 Posts user info edit post |
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wbio Suspended 244 Posts user info edit post |
Derek Jeter <--------------------
[Edited on November 3, 2006 at 4:47 PM. Reason : f] 11/3/2006 4:46:48 PM |
ElGimpy All American 3111 Posts user info edit post |
Anyone think that Soriano will contend at all? 11/3/2006 5:00:56 PM |
MikeLov Veteran 122 Posts user info edit post |
Howard = MVP
The numbers that matter and that most people care about are in Howard's favor. Yes he played more games than pujols which means more RBI's and HR etc... and yes he struck a whole hell of a lot more that pujols and yes his fielding is subpar and yes maybe the cardinals dont sniff the playoffs without pujols but the phillies were nearing the bottom of the NL before Howard put them on his back. The Cards were in the lead of their division throughout the entire year with or without pujols and the phils still ended up with a better record.
Howard = MVP, theres no doubt. 11/5/2006 4:02:57 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
howard deserves it
but it'll go to to pujols 11/5/2006 8:45:02 PM |
The Dude All American 6502 Posts user info edit post |
i just noticed verlander and hanley ramirez got the rookie of year i wasn't surprised about verlander winning it but i questioned ramirez
ramirez had comparable numbers but i honestly thought zimmerman would get it
especially since ramirez's teamates (Uggla and josh johnson) were both in the running 11/13/2006 11:39:31 PM |
AlbertPujols Starting Lineup 80 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "yes he struck a whole hell of a lot more that pujols and yes his fielding is subpar and yes maybe the cardinals dont sniff the playoffs without pujols" |
hahaha, I don't know how you can put this line in there and still argue for Howard. He's a good player....actually from St. Louis....but this is out of line.11/13/2006 11:46:50 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The Cards were in the lead of their division throughout the entire year with or without pujols " |
What? You just said right before that if they didn't have Pujols, they don't sniff the playoffs and then you make this dumb statement.
Pujols SHOULD win the MVP dammit. Look at the meaningful numbers. He won the damn Gold Glove to top it off with his clutch numbers.11/14/2006 12:07:24 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Brandon Webb won Cy Young. 2) Hoffman 3) Carpenter 4) Oswalt
What a crock, Webb deserves it the least out of those 4.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061114/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bbn_nl_cy_young_award_2 11/14/2006 3:40:57 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
I am pretty surprised by the NL voting thus far - Hanley Ramirez and Webb?? I expected Uggla and Carpenter. Webb did lead the league in wins while playing for a shitty team and Ramirez stole 50+ bases as well as being a pretty solid all around hitter so I guess that's what some of the voters looked at.
[Edited on November 14, 2006 at 3:49 PM. Reason : dr] 11/14/2006 3:49:05 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
As a Cards fan, I'll say that Carpenter didnt deserve it....although fishier things have happened. Nobody really deserved it this year. 11/14/2006 3:54:34 PM |
kable333 All American 5933 Posts user info edit post |
Why are they giving these awards to players now? The WS was over almost 3 weeks ago. 11/14/2006 4:03:25 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
^ Baseball always waits a few weeks to give out it's awards. I don't know why, but it's nothing new.
^^ Yeah the NL really had no standout performances this year. I cannot remember a year with less worthy candidates - maybe that year Mark Davis (the SD closer) won the Cy Young. 11/14/2006 4:27:56 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Morneau is MVP.. lol at Jeter. 11/21/2006 2:03:47 PM |
MikeLov Veteran 122 Posts user info edit post |
"What? You just said right before that if they didn't have Pujols, they don't sniff the playoffs and then you make this dumb statement."
the key word was the MAYBE, it was meant to add sarcasm but either way Howard deserved it and won it. 11/21/2006 6:56:15 PM |
ElGimpy All American 3111 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I see it this way: Someone who doesn't take his team to the playoffs doesn't deserve to win the MVP" |
-Albert Pujols
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AjOd7YFyn9ldD5warQ_g._cRvLYF?slug=ap-cardinals-pujols&prov=ap&type=lgns
What a dick. I hate the Yankees with every bone in my body but how much better of a player and person does Jeter look like compared to this statement.11/30/2006 2:07:05 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
What a down year for baseball. Seriously. The Tigers ruined it.
11/30/2006 2:09:45 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I like how the Phillies had a better record then the Cardinals still though.. I guess the MVP should go to a player on which ever team plays in the worst division in baseball. Pujols iwas untouchable for a long time but b/t him pretty much saying Glavine sucked after he shut them out and this he is coming off as a dick.. The Cardinals would have been third place every other division in baseball, literally... 11/30/2006 2:12:00 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
^ Agreed. I used to think Pujols was a Cal Ripken type guy that was classy and didn't let his success go to his head. I guess not. I still think he is an amazing player, but I'll never hold him in the same regard again after hearing his most recent bitching and his trashing of Glavine. 11/30/2006 3:58:47 PM |
Beardawg61 Trauma Specialist 15492 Posts user info edit post |
ttt 9/6/2007 12:40:13 PM |
The Dude All American 6502 Posts user info edit post |
thanks for the bump 9/6/2007 12:55:43 PM |
sd2nc All American 9963 Posts user info edit post |
god this thread was fucking confusing as I thought this was from 2007
I was waiting for the flame after the first posts haha 9/6/2007 1:04:12 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
lol
verlander for ROY tipped me off
[Edited on September 6, 2007 at 1:05 PM. Reason : .] 9/6/2007 1:04:49 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Thx Beardawg...
2007 Awards Predictions
AL MVP: Alex Rodriguez -- no question. Not debatable. Nice season by Magglio but no where near what A-Rod has done for the Yankees. He may not be a "true Yankee" whatever the fuck that means but he is THE reason they will be in the playoffs for the 13th straight year.
NL MVP: David Wright -- I'm ready to get trolled for this but I feel he is the choice. Miggy and Hanley can be eliminated b/c of their team. Prince has struggled with the Brewers collapse and Albert hasn't been true Albert. Wright is hitting on pace for .320, 33 HRs, 110 RBIs, 115 Runs, 35 SB, 45 2B, and a .410 OBP. No one in the history of baseball has hit .300, 30+, 110+ runs/RBIs, 30+, 45+, .400+... He has carried the Mets when they needed to be carried and it doesn't hurt he is on a winning team.
AL Cy Young: C.C. Sabathia -- Though this is VERY tough to predict. Haren probably has the best numbers but the A's suck. Escobar and Lackey will take votes from each other. Sabathia has been a rock in a decent, but not dominant rotation.
NL Cy Young: Brandon Webb. Young is out of it. Peavy didn't help himself. Webb is the man...
AL Rookie of the Year: Brian Bannister -- 4th in the AL in ERA. 11 wins for a shitty team. Should have been the 5th man in the Mets rotation this year.
NL Rookie of the Year: Ryan Braun -- if he isn't you're retarded and wrong. 9/6/2007 2:10:09 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
^ pretty much agree on all of those. The NL MVP race is pretty weak this year. Wright has been awesome in the 2nd half and when Utley got hurt, it killed his chances. If there was a great hitter on either the Padres or D-Backs, they would get votes, but Wright is the best hitter on the best team in the NL so he deserves it.
I have Bannister on my fantasy teams and it is amazing how no one talks about how well he has pitched. Diasuke better not win that shit because Bannister's numbers are better and if he pitched for the Red Sox, he'd have 16 wins by now. 9/6/2007 5:08:37 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Braun should get NL ROY...however if he collapses...and somehow Hunter Pence gets enough at bats to qualify for the batting title...has there ever been a rookie who got the batting title and didn't get ROY?
Also Chris B. Young is a sleeper for Arizona...28 homers and 24 SB...he just happens to be batting a horrible average below .250 9/6/2007 5:14:57 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
AL MVP-ARod no doubt NL MVP- probably down to Wright, Pujols, Fielder, Braun maybe?, Matt Holiday AL Cy-Should be Haren regardless of team then CC, Lackey, Escobar, and Carmona. NL Cy-Down to Webb, Peavy, Penny, and Francis should get votes pitching like he has for the Rockies. 9/6/2007 5:19:20 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Rollins deserves a look for NL MVP too but he really isn't having much better a year than Reyes had last year and he didn't get a true look in '06... Rollins has a bit more pop but also plays in a Little League park. 9/6/2007 5:19:45 PM |
Phil LOLlins All American 1402 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "AL MVP-ARod no doubt NL MVP- probably down to Wright, Pujols, Fielder, Braun maybe?, Matt Holiday AL Cy-Should be Haren regardless of team then CC, Lackey, Escobar, and Carmona. NL Cy-Down to Webb, Peavy, Penny, and Francis should get votes pitching like he has for the Rockies" |
Regarless of the team the AL Cy young should be Bedard, but it wont be9/6/2007 6:50:53 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Wow I completely forgot about Erik Bedard....he should be right there.
Good call. 9/6/2007 10:17:30 PM |
The Dude All American 6502 Posts user info edit post |
Rookie of the Year: AL: Dustin Pedroia (Brian Bannister and Dice K also have a good chance) NL: Ryan Braun
MVP: AL: AROD NL: I agree with NYM410 that David Wright might get the MVP but I think Chase Utley might get it even though he missed a month
Manager of the Year: AL: Eric Wedge NL: Bob "I wish he would have stayed with the Mariners" Melvin (obviously I like the M's)
Rolaids Relief Pitcher of the Year: AL: JJ Putz NL: Jose Valverde
Cy Young: AL: CC Sabathia (he's on a better team than Haren) NL: Brandon Webb 9/6/2007 11:37:27 PM |
gforce All American 2107 Posts user info edit post |
AL MVP: AROD - Book it NL MVP: Howard AL Cy Young: Wang or Beckett NL Cy Young: Peavy AL ROY: Dustin Pedroia NL ROY: Troy Tulowitzki, or Ryan Braun 9/7/2007 12:42:02 PM |
The Dude All American 6502 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "NL Rookie of the Year: Ryan Braun -- if he isn't you're retarded and wrong." |
9/7/2007 12:43:34 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
oh man, I will be so fucking happy if C.C. wins the AL Cy Young
^^and I dont know what the hell you are smoking, thinking that Wang will win the AL Cy Young, but it's killing your brain cells
[Edited on September 7, 2007 at 12:46 PM. Reason : asd] 9/7/2007 12:45:57 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Wang for Cy Young? Someone is a Yankee diehard that can't see straight.
He isn't even top 5 right now: 1) Haren 2) Bedard 3) Sabathia 4) Escobar 5) Lackey 9/7/2007 1:26:20 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
He hasn't even been as consistent this year as Pettit 9/7/2007 1:27:04 PM |