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8/22/2006 12:57:57 PM

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"i agree sober...unfortunately it seems most people on here dont realize that time will tell and only think about right now "

then why did you make this thread?

8/22/2006 12:58:16 PM

i would appreciate that actually...

sure they make mistakes...but i dont get why so many of you are willing to side with homicidal tyrants...terrorists and the leaders of other nations who are just as capable of making mistakes as our leaders

8/22/2006 12:58:26 PM

^^because there are still a bunch of dumbasses who dont agree that only time will tell

^they are misled by the media...call it a strawman or whatever you want...they're still misled by the media propaganda

8/22/2006 12:58:52 PM

if that was your intent, it certainly didnt come across that way.

8/22/2006 12:59:23 PM

powe powe powe powe powe powe powe powe

8/22/2006 12:59:29 PM

^^again, you pay more attention to how someone says something and pay less attention to what they say

8/22/2006 1:00:09 PM

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"sure they make mistakes...but i dont get why so many of you are willing to side with homicidal tyrants...terrorists and the leaders of other nations who are just as capable of making mistakes as our leaders"

Being against attacking them does not imply supporting them. I think it DOES imply remaining neutral.

8/22/2006 1:00:18 PM

battle between your own country and a bunch of terrorists and you remain neutral......

8/22/2006 1:01:14 PM

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"o many of you guys only "distrust" the government right now because there is a repub in power...if bill clinton was doing this stuff you would be like "leader of the free world baby!!!"..."freedom is on the march!!"...."

That's not the case at all. If Clinton had a neocon ideology when it came to foriegn policy, you'd better believe I wouldn't trust him when it came to invading countries.

That's like me faulting you for not trusting Hillary on healthcare. Of course you shouldn't trust her; her beliefs on the issue run counter to your own. It's (mostly) independent of your personal disliking of her.

8/22/2006 1:09:07 PM

i think most rational people either trust the govt or not regardless of who is in power...our two political parties arent that different...a bunch of rich people getting richer

of course, when we're talking about rational people, boonedocks doesn't come to mind

8/22/2006 1:11:02 PM

i actually trust hillary on healthcare sooo....uhh....


so what exactly was clinton doing in places like bosnia??...i mean....that dang neocon...why was he there!? obviuosly it was to dig in with US troops to have sway over the ME and get oil...i dont trust anyone

8/22/2006 1:13:14 PM

Blair had to be reigned in over Bosnia. he wanted to go in unilaterally.

8/22/2006 1:14:39 PM

Well how about Kerry on gun control. Or whatever metaphor you'd like. I made my point. It's distrust in a person's ideology, not personal dislike.

Clinton was stopping genocide in Bosnia. That's not a neocon rationale, and it's one I personally support.

8/22/2006 1:16:29 PM

thats what the neocons would want us to think...we all know that clinton was just out to pad the pockets of his wife and his buddies in big business...obviuosly..by having US forces in bosnia...he would better dothat

8/22/2006 1:17:16 PM

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"Clinton was stopping genocide in Bosnia"

Bush was stopping genocide in Iraq

yet thats totally different

8/22/2006 1:18:03 PM

so when clinton stops a leader from killing his own people he is just stopping genocide...

when bush does the same he is only there for oil and to get rich....

yeah...i guess that makes sense

8/22/2006 1:19:36 PM

they wont debate those points with you trikk...they will just ignore them

8/22/2006 1:20:11 PM

Yeah, that was his rationale for going to war. After WMDs, terrorism, and region transformation didn't work out.


And he totally stopped the genocide.

That happened in the early 90's.

George W. Bush invented a time machine.

8/22/2006 1:20:28 PM

there's oil in Bosnia???

8/22/2006 1:21:58 PM

like i said trikk, they wont debate those points with you

8/22/2006 1:22:10 PM

so...lets see...when do they come up with the name of the mission...usually before the mission right??

and what was this mission called?? Operation Iraqi Freedom

so your right....freeing iraqis just became a convenient out for GWB after the fact....

8/22/2006 1:23:09 PM

if clinton did this, noone would be protesting. its the truth, and you cant prove otherwise. IMPEACH BUSH FOR FREEING THE IRAQI PEOPLE.

8/22/2006 1:26:07 PM

apparently trikk311, when i make the points you were making, i get called a troll but when you make the same points, they're scared to post because they know they lost the thread...isnt tww great

8/22/2006 1:26:12 PM

it is indeed a wonderful place

8/22/2006 1:26:45 PM

once again, the conservatives win

TWW LIBERAL ASS-KICKING TEAM!

8/22/2006 1:27:39 PM

lets look at the money and time put into Bosnia. Now the deaths.

Lets look at the money and time put into Iraq. Now the deaths.



?

8/22/2006 1:30:40 PM

bosnia is a civil war clusterfuck right now since clinton evacuated troops too early

lets look at that...cause the media doesnt want you to look at it

8/22/2006 1:31:42 PM

I'm against both situations, if it makes you feel any better (Bosnia and Iraq, I mean). Didn't like Clinton, don't like Bush. I'm consistent, at least.

8/22/2006 1:32:32 PM

thankfully, bush had the foresight to not involve the world parties of "peace" who would object to us doing whatever it takes to succeed in iraq. those parties were involved in bosnia and their inept UN-style planning and execution led to its demise.

anyway, its clear in the media that there is a double standard for such things. the liberals dont want to admit this, and theyre on the retreat.

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8/22/2006 1:34:38 PM

Bosnia has wings!!!

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8/22/2006 1:53:17 PM

Ms. Cleo for Foreign Policy Director

"Guuuuuuurl yuh got ta inved that kuntry, no. Kant yuh see dey're gonna be like Hitler in a few years?"

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What, pray tell, gives Bush the right to claim the success of stopping the next Hitler?

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8/22/2006 2:08:34 PM

i guess we will never know if he would have been the next hitler....and thank God for it

8/22/2006 2:10:20 PM

No. Instead we just get to find out if whatever leader is victorious in their civil war will be like the next Hitler.

8/22/2006 2:11:46 PM

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"Ms. Cleo for Foreign Policy Director "Guuuuuuurl yuh got ta inved that kuntry, no. Kant yuh see dey're gonna be like Hitler in a few years?" "

ahahahahah this made my day

8/22/2006 2:13:45 PM

powe powe powe powe powe powe

8/22/2006 2:14:57 PM

8/22/2006 2:18:29 PM

locke locke locke

8/22/2006 2:19:05 PM

8/22/2006 2:20:59 PM

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"so...lets see...when do they come up with the name of the mission...usually before the mission right?? and what was this mission called?? Operation Iraqi Freedom so your right....freeing iraqis just became a convenient out for GWB after the fact...."

You're arguing based on what the military decided to call the mission?

How about we argue it based on Bush's actual case for war? Maybe that would be better at deciphering what Bush's actual case for war was?

It was founded on WMD. Human rights was a small part of the argument, but nowhere near as important as WMDs and region transformation.

8/22/2006 4:28:10 PM

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"It was founded on WMD and 18 other resolutions that i dont want to mention because they'd take away from my argument"

8/22/2006 4:37:32 PM

Let's hear those 18 things

8/22/2006 4:39:28 PM

are you really so ignorant you didnt know the House of Reps and Congress both voted on all 18 resolutions that included everything from WMDs, a number of broken UN sanctions, genocide on Kurds, assassination attempt on former US president, etc? oh i get it, you know about them, you're just trolling

8/22/2006 4:41:50 PM

i wonder how the vote would have looked if colin powell would have never given that made up speech to the UN

8/22/2006 4:44:18 PM

Ah, so let's make "violating UN resolutions" 18 separate items.




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8/22/2006 4:47:48 PM

i'm just going off what the US Congress and House of Representatives voted on

but i forgot, you already know all this, you're just trolling

8/22/2006 4:48:34 PM

ARE YOU REALLY ARGUING THAT THE WAR WASN'T ORIGINALLY JUSTIFIED WITH THE THREAD OF WMDS TREE-TARD10?

8/22/2006 4:50:02 PM

now i know you're trolling

treetard 10 haha thats funny did you even know boonedocks was a comic strip before the cartoon

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8/22/2006 4:50:34 PM

boondocks is a comic strip

boonedocks isn't

8/22/2006 4:56:19 PM

touche

8/22/2006 4:57:45 PM