Since trikk311 is here:

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"but to suggest that no alterations have been made at all is a decmocratic talking point and is, in fact, factually incorrect "

Ok trikk311. Since you claim to know the facts, I want you to answer the following question.

Describe in some detail the ways the Bush administration accurately anticipate the insurgency, and what was done to deal with it at the time?

9/6/2006 3:09:59 PM

our country had never fought an enemy of this type...there were bound to be unforseen negative results...but freedom is worth fighting for

9/6/2006 3:19:03 PM

I never said that accuratly anticipated the insurgency. If you would read my posts instead of knee-jerk-reacting to them...you would know this...

i did say that the administration has been reacting to the situation on the ground. all you have to do is look at the fact that more troops have been put in when needed. to claim that the administration has not reacted to conditions on the ground is a democratic talking point parroted by partisan idiots like pryderi and david gregory...

thanks for putting my name in red and allowing me to make you look like an idiot...

9/6/2006 3:22:53 PM

whos freedom are we fighting for again?

because I forgot

9/6/2006 3:30:10 PM

^Osama's.

9/6/2006 3:39:51 PM

the whole world's freedom maybe? i dunno...maybe you could throw out some numbers comparing automobile accidents and accept 9/11-type attacks as just something thats bound to happen every now and then

9/6/2006 3:42:32 PM

i thought we were fighting for the freedom of the Iraqi people.

9/6/2006 3:47:26 PM

"the whole world's freedom" encompasses the Iraqi people as well

basically the war is for all the people worldwide who want to live in (relative) peace without people flying planes into their buildings and killing thousands of their civilians because they arent tolerant of other cultures

9/6/2006 3:52:01 PM

sorry dude but fighting in Iraq isnt going to dent that shit. and for that matter Iraq would be one of the last place to go to fight that find of stuff.

just being a negative nancy

9/6/2006 3:54:57 PM

gotta start somewhere...we started in afghanistan...moved on to iraq...and will move on to iran next probably

9/6/2006 3:55:47 PM

ha we're gonna be dead before this is finnished......and broke for that matter.

9/6/2006 4:00:49 PM

better to die of old age while fighting a noble global cause than to die tomorrow when ahkmed blows up your wolfline bus

9/6/2006 4:03:51 PM

^ hahahahahahahahaha

you seriously worry about this shit dont you

9/6/2006 4:08:14 PM

no but i dont have a problem with the govt doing what they're doing

9/6/2006 4:12:20 PM

haha dude you seriously need to mellow out.

no durka durkas are going to blow up your house

9/6/2006 4:13:52 PM

i know they're not

because bush pwns them

9/6/2006 4:16:05 PM

well the amount of terrorist attacks in the US havent really changed alot in the last 5 years.

9/6/2006 4:17:52 PM

well the amount of terrorist attacks in the US has been zero in the last 5 years (from 6 days from now)

9/6/2006 4:19:48 PM

ha exactly, so how many muslims attacks were there before 9/11

9/6/2006 4:20:34 PM

- USS Cole
- Tanzanian Embassy
- Kenyan Embassy

and those are just a couple, mostly from Clinton's time in office

and yes American battleships and US embassies count as "American soil"

oh yeah and they tried to knock down the WTC 10 years earlier in case you forgot

9/6/2006 4:22:27 PM

ha you sneaky fucker.

i was just banking on the first WTC thang..........

BUT!

how many non-muslim terrorist attacks were there.

alot more that 4

[Edited on September 6, 2006 at 4:25 PM. Reason : !]

9/6/2006 4:23:22 PM

- Oklahoma City

course mathematically i cant argue with you since there are more non-Muslim people than Muslims

but om, i kind of have a suspicion, i dunno, call it a hunch, that some Muslims really hate us and want us to die for Allah

9/6/2006 4:31:56 PM

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"waaaah cry like a little bitch David Gregory - you got called the FUCK out!"

Oh wow. What a statement. Snow layed the smackdown on Gregory! That was like a Rock Bottom compounded with the Stone Cold Stunner and Tombstone Piledriver there. Gregory got a new hole tore in his backside on that one. Wow...just wow!

Seriously dude, go back to listening to Hannity and Limbaugh. Y'all and Air America's listeners are the only ones that give a s***. The rest of the country knows that Republicans and Democrats just conspire to f*** citizens anyway, so Gregory is right about the administration but you're right that Gregory was called out, so there is no winner and it was just a wash/stalemate, so go back some skewed version of reality that does not exist (like a conservative version of dailyKos).

9/6/2006 4:35:17 PM

uni-bomber
abortion doctor killers
ELF fires
other crazy enviromentalist burnings
Sniper guys in DC


thats all pretty terrorific

9/6/2006 4:36:32 PM

how could i forget the unibomber and the DC snipers

9/6/2006 4:58:26 PM

um.....yea

terrorism

9/6/2006 9:01:01 PM

so you admit terrorism is an important issue

9/7/2006 9:18:58 AM

Why are you bringing up terrorism? Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, US Cole, etc and certainly nothing to do with OK city or home grown terrorism.

9/7/2006 9:36:02 AM

why am i bringing up terrorism? did you not read the last 12 posts, all talking about terrorism?!?????

9/7/2006 9:38:39 AM

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"the whole world's freedom maybe? i dunno...maybe you could throw out some numbers comparing automobile accidents and accept 9/11-type attacks as just something thats bound to happen every now and then"

Im pretty sure this is where you introduce terrorism as a reason for the Iraq invasion/liberation.

9/7/2006 9:52:31 AM

are you saying iraq didnt/doesnt harbor terrorists?

9/7/2006 9:53:29 AM

shit the US made many of them

9/7/2006 9:57:41 AM

they harbored them before the iraq in as much as their mothers harbored them during their pregnancy.


(ie they didn't become terrrorists until later)

9/7/2006 9:58:57 AM

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"so you admit terrorism is an important issue"

im saying internal terrorism is a bigger issue than external.

[Edited on September 7, 2006 at 9:59 AM. Reason : 21]

9/7/2006 9:59:02 AM

you mean like the terrorists who carried out the 9/11 attacks since they were internally in the country at the time already?

9/7/2006 10:08:53 AM

hm? which 9/11 terrorists were harbored in iraq again?

what are their names?

9/7/2006 10:10:02 AM

who said 9/11 terrorists were harbored in iraq

9/7/2006 10:11:28 AM

no one has said that 911 terrorists were harbored in iraq...stop with the strawman

that iraq harbored terrorists before the war is undeniable

9/7/2006 10:44:02 AM

my comment, assumingly misconstrued by sarijoul, was that the 9/11 terrorists were already in the US, so in one sense the attacks were internal...they were all 4 domestic flights

9/7/2006 10:44:57 AM

I know...im just saying... its a typical democratic strawman argument to say "but the 911 terrorists were not from iraq!!"...no one has said that except democrates

but it IS a fact that iraq harbored terrorist before the invasion

9/7/2006 10:48:59 AM

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"are you saying iraq didnt/doesnt harbor terrorists?"

Im assuming they did not harbor terrorist pre-invasion because

1. We had no evidence from intel that Iraq was "harboring" terrorists with harmful intents towards the US or our Allies. Of course there were probably jihadists living in or traveling through Iraq, just as there are in every country in the middle east.
2. Islamic militants were not friendly towards secular Sunni-controlled Iraq. The likelyhood of Saddam harboring terrorists was as likely as Ariel Sharon harboring terrorists.

[Edited on September 7, 2006 at 11:24 AM. Reason : .]

9/7/2006 11:21:33 AM

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"1. We had no evidence from intel that Iraq was "harboring" terrorists with harmful intents towards the US or our Allies."

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"PUK Kidnapping, September 13, 1996: In Iraq, Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) militants kidnapped four French workers for Pharmaciens Sans Frontieres, a Canadian United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) official, and two Iraqis."

arent we allies with Canada

9/7/2006 11:31:01 AM

sorry twista, i thought you were replying to my comment, not dental's. you said in "the" country. you just need to be more precise with your wording.

9/7/2006 11:33:25 AM

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"you mean like the terrorists who carried out the 9/11 attacks since they were internally in the country at the time already?"

how do you misconstrue this? were there 9/11 attacks in iraq or the united states?

9/7/2006 11:40:32 AM

i did. why does it matter? i read it as i left for class.

9/7/2006 11:41:32 AM

We're also allies with Ireland, Russia, Spain, etc etc etc - dozens of countries fighting their own home-grown terrorists that have nothing to do with us. What are we doing about the IRA? Basque Terrorists? Chechnyans? (sp) etc

9/7/2006 11:41:42 AM

was it the IRA who attacked us on 9/11 or was it radical muslims?

9/7/2006 11:45:02 AM

Al-qaida /= all radical muslims

9/7/2006 11:48:05 AM

all radical muslims = share hatred for the united states

9/7/2006 11:51:01 AM

all radical muslims=all muslims?

9/7/2006 12:24:12 PM