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"also i wonder if Mr. Gore thinks the strip mines that he owns in Tennessee are a contributor?"

10/2/2006 11:23:54 AM

ITS TRUE BECAUSE I SAW IT ON YOUTUBE

10/2/2006 11:28:10 AM

why dont you do a little research on Gore and his businesses in Tennessee before you make yourself look more retarded

10/2/2006 11:29:37 AM

YOUTUBE DOESNT LIE

10/2/2006 11:30:14 AM

i guess CNN and the Associated Press and local Tennessee newspapers have been telling lies for years and years and years also

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"why dont you do a little research on Gore and his businesses in Tennessee before you make yourself look more retarded"

unless you just want to blindly defend your boy with caps lock turned on about a subject to which you know nothing

10/2/2006 11:34:20 AM

what in the hell do stripmines have to do with the fact that drudge is full of shit?

10/2/2006 11:36:47 AM

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-08-09-gore-green_x.htm

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"Gore isn't quite as green as he's led the world to believe Updated 8/10/2006 10:44 AM ET E-mail | Save | Print | Subscribe to stories like this Al Gore has spoken: The world must embrace a "carbon-neutral lifestyle." To do otherwise, he says, will result in a cataclysmic catastrophe. "Humanity is sitting on a ticking time bomb," warns the website for his film, An Inconvenient Truth. "We have just 10 years to avert a major catastrophe that could send our entire planet into a tailspin." ON DEADLINE: Your thoughts? Graciously, Gore tells consumers how to change their lives to curb their carbon-gobbling ways: Switch to compact fluorescent light bulbs, use a clothesline, drive a hybrid, use renewable energy, dramatically cut back on consumption. Better still, responsible global citizens can follow Gore's example, because, as he readily points out in his speeches, he lives a "carbon-neutral lifestyle." But if Al Gore is the world's role model for ecology, the planet is doomed. For someone who says the sky is falling, he does very little. He says he recycles and drives a hybrid. And he claims he uses renewable energy credits to offset the pollution he produces when using a private jet to promote his film. (In reality, Paramount Classics, the film's distributor, pays this.) Public records reveal that as Gore lectures Americans on excessive consumption, he and his wife Tipper live in two properties: a 10,000-square-foot, 20-room, eight-bathroom home in Nashville, and a 4,000-square-foot home in Arlington, Va. (He also has a third home in Carthage, Tenn.) For someone rallying the planet to pursue a path of extreme personal sacrifice, Gore requires little from himself. Then there is the troubling matter of his energy use. In the Washington, D.C., area, utility companies offer wind energy as an alternative to traditional energy. In Nashville, similar programs exist. Utility customers must simply pay a few extra pennies per kilowatt hour, and they can continue living their carbon-neutral lifestyles knowing that they are supporting wind energy. Plenty of businesses and institutions have signed up. Even the Bush administration is using green energy for some federal office buildings, as are thousands of area residents. But according to public records, there is no evidence that Gore has signed up to use green energy in either of his large residences. When contacted Wednesday, Gore's office confirmed as much but said the Gores were looking into making the switch at both homes. Talk about inconvenient truths. Gore is not alone. Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean has said, "Global warming is happening, and it threatens our very existence." The DNC website applauds the fact that Gore has "tried to move people to act." Yet, astoundingly, Gore's persuasive powers have failed to convince his own party: The DNC has not signed up to pay an additional two pennies a kilowatt hour to go green. For that matter, neither has the Republican National Committee. Maybe our very existence isn't threatened. Gore has held these apocalyptic views about the environment for some time. So why, then, didn't Gore dump his family's large stock holdings in Occidental (Oxy) Petroleum? As executor of his family's trust, over the years Gore has controlled hundreds of thousands of dollars in Oxy stock. Oxy has been mired in controversy over oil drilling in ecologically sensitive areas. Living carbon-neutral apparently doesn't mean living oil-stock free. Nor does it necessarily mean giving up a mining royalty either. Humanity might be "sitting on a ticking time bomb," but Gore's home in Carthage is sitting on a zinc mine. Gore receives $20,000 a year in royalties from Pasminco Zinc, which operates a zinc concession on his property. Tennessee has cited the company for adding large quantities of barium, iron and zinc to the nearby Caney Fork River. The issue here is not simply Gore's hypocrisy; it's a question of credibility. If he genuinely believes the apocalyptic vision he has put forth and calls for radical changes in the way other people live, why hasn't he made any radical change in his life? Giving up the zinc mine or one of his homes is not asking much, given that he wants the rest of us to radically change our lives."

10/2/2006 11:39:08 AM

op-eds aren't news. sorry. try again.

10/2/2006 11:42:21 AM

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"Gore receives $20,000 a year in royalties from Pasminco Zinc, which operates a zinc concession on his property. Tennessee has cited the company for adding large quantities of barium, iron and zinc to the nearby Caney Fork River."

boonedocks?

^whatever you have to tell yourself to brainwash yourself that Gore cares about anyone other than himself

10/2/2006 11:43:35 AM

he's doing this for money. He doesn't care about green issues or he would live his life to reflect it. Gore is laughing all the way to the bank with these idiots who subscribe to this junk science.

Just like John Kerry was pro-environment.


While in Detroit, Motor City USA, he fielded a question about which vehicles he drives, "oh I have a big ole expedition. I have a PT cruiser. I have a Silverado."

Yeah...

[Edited on October 2, 2006 at 11:45 AM. Reason : .]

10/2/2006 11:44:12 AM

yes. he was doing this for the money when he was in the senate too.

[Edited on October 2, 2006 at 11:47 AM. Reason : and who brought john kerry into this?!]

10/2/2006 11:46:51 AM

one google search produced plenty of links


his zinc mine operation had been fined numerous times for polluting the cumberland river and caney fork river in TN...

including twice in 96 when he was running for re-election

but I guess you libs are blind to the fact that these "heroes" of yours only care about themselves and whatever gets them some votes

10/2/2006 11:47:46 AM

yes...all politicians like to make money and get power...republicans and democrats...not just one party...thats why theyre politicians...to make money

boonedocks where ya at?

10/2/2006 11:48:03 AM

Attacking the op-ed itself is stupid. Attack the facts in it. Are any of them wrong?

I'm waiting for just one person on the left side of the aisle to go "WTF Gore, you gotta live carbon-neutral if you say you do"

That's all I'm looking for.

10/2/2006 11:56:26 AM

won't happen.


I DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH THAT WOMAN!



There is no personal responsibility in the liberal realm of moral relativity.

[Edited on October 2, 2006 at 11:58 AM. Reason : .]

10/2/2006 11:58:08 AM

but democrats are never hipocrites..

they only want whats best for the people and the enviroment!!!

10/2/2006 11:58:56 AM

Gore is an idiot if he believes this...

10/2/2006 12:01:39 PM

so just to get this settled: the original article posted is completely unconfirmed and most likely either a) totally false b) taken out of conext or c) exaggerated.

as for gore: perhaps he's a hypocrite. but even if he is: how does this make what he's arguing for any less important?

10/2/2006 12:32:56 PM

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"as for gore: perhaps he's a hypocrite. but even if he is: how does this make what he's arguing for any less important?"

its apparently not important enough to him for him to lead by example

DO WHAT I SAY, NOT WHAT I DO

10/2/2006 12:35:08 PM

dude, there are plenty of articles out there


I just posted the first thing that cam eup in google

you don't have to believe it if you don't want to

but the fact is that he is not as "green" as he wants everyone else to be

typical politican "I'm allowed to do this, but you can't" crap

10/2/2006 12:36:05 PM

how about this: fuck gore, not the environment.

10/2/2006 12:36:24 PM

^i think thats kinda what everyone was thinking in the first place, maybe wrong though

10/2/2006 12:37:06 PM

BUT
even if gore has done things that are harmful to the environment, he has obviously helped some by putting this in the forefront of national political conversation in a time where that seemed pretty impossible.

10/2/2006 12:38:25 PM

but at the same time he was doing whatever he pleased to make money???


and preaching enviroment to get votes???


how is that OK?

10/2/2006 12:39:28 PM

that's not okay. but it doesn't mean that he didn't help things on the larger scale.

10/2/2006 12:40:11 PM

he was going to try to ban internal combustion motors on anything that wasn't a highway... thereby fucking average americans... all the while he polluted rivers at a rate that boats could never have polluted

10/2/2006 12:41:55 PM

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"he was going to try to ban internal combustion motors on anything that wasn't a highway..."

source?

10/2/2006 12:42:28 PM

look up all the roadless initiative stuff... I read the article about it years ago back when he was running for pres


I wonder why that story didn't make a big splash

this guy felt that non highway internal combustion motors were unnecessary... wanted to include stuff like lawn mowers, chainsaws, dirt bikes, boats, etc etc

10/2/2006 12:47:59 PM

why don't you find the source?

[Edited on October 2, 2006 at 12:49 PM. Reason : seeing as how you claimed it and all]

10/2/2006 12:48:44 PM

I don't feel like it... I already looked it up the other day


not like you'd believe anything posted anyways


how about you do some research about your favorite politician

10/2/2006 12:50:30 PM

i just did a search and all that came up were sites like "ihatefagsandtheenvirnoment.org"

10/2/2006 12:51:35 PM

Wait... Al Gore is against mining? When did that occur? I could have sworn that had nothing at all to do with the subject at hand.

And the mine operating on his family's property had an environmental code violation!? Oh. my. goodness. hypocrite.

You guys will lap up anything said about him, won't you?

10/2/2006 12:52:04 PM

why dont you do a little research on Gore and his businesses in Tennessee before you make yourself look more retarded

10/2/2006 12:52:36 PM

yeah... sounds like you searched for it


because I think Al Gore is a tool I hate the enviroment right?

the mining operation had more than one violation of polluting the local rivers

2 in one year (96)



[Edited on October 2, 2006 at 12:55 PM. Reason : .]

10/2/2006 12:53:56 PM

so can this thread die since the topic that it's about is most likely complete bullshit.

i did search:

http://www.google.com/search?q=roadless+initiative+gore

and the whole first page is republican think tanks and snowmobile pages.

i even went to the first two links and didn't see anything about not being able to drive internal combustion engines off the highway. all it talked about was decommisioning unnecessary roads.

[Edited on October 2, 2006 at 12:57 PM. Reason : .]

10/2/2006 12:54:20 PM

I did do a little research.

There were dozens of google hits for it. all referencing the same USA Today Op-Ed piece written by a guy from teh Hoover Institute. Forgive me if I'm a little bit skeptical, since I'm arguing against people dumb enough to still asert that Al Gore claimed he invented the internets.

10/2/2006 12:55:17 PM

^^can this thread die since its not bush bashing and its not pumping up gore as a great american hero?

[Edited on October 2, 2006 at 12:55 PM. Reason : ^^]

10/2/2006 12:55:32 PM

all that you guys are doing is bringing up random gore-bashing because drudge is full of shit.

10/2/2006 12:58:38 PM

so you're denying the EPA violations and the IRS reports that showed he profited from the mine

even gore isn't denying them


ONCE AGAIN LIBS

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"QUIT BEING SO DAMNED DEFENSIVE"

[Edited on October 2, 2006 at 1:00 PM. Reason : .]

10/2/2006 12:58:46 PM

are you delusional? who has been defending this?

10/2/2006 1:01:51 PM

you and boonedocks


and libs in general

by discrediting everything instead of being like, yeah, politicans ARE hippocritical toolbags

[Edited on October 2, 2006 at 1:03 PM. Reason : .]

10/2/2006 1:02:41 PM

not like i said fuck gore or anything.



[Edited on October 2, 2006 at 1:05 PM. Reason : .]

10/2/2006 1:04:07 PM

I can't agree with that... and I pretty much think bush sucks, but I guess he had to deal with the hand he was dealt

yeah true

[Edited on October 2, 2006 at 1:05 PM. Reason : .]

10/2/2006 1:05:21 PM

^i edited that out because i think there were better candidates that didn't make it past their primaries.

[Edited on October 2, 2006 at 1:06 PM. Reason : but gore>kerry>>>>>>bush]

10/2/2006 1:06:22 PM

oh ok... yeah, I figured that was it...


well sir, I value your opinion but I respectfully disagree

[Edited on October 2, 2006 at 1:53 PM. Reason : .]

10/2/2006 1:53:07 PM

I'm not a fan of Gore, but he's a good guy, and you all will believe anything that's said about him.

1. Show me where Gore said he was against zinc mining
2. Show me a mine that's never been fined by teh EPA

10/2/2006 3:40:11 PM

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"Gore is laughing all the way to the bank with these idiots who subscribe to this junk science."

It's not junk science. Read hard science fiction and you'll understand.

10/2/2006 3:50:50 PM

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"1. Show me where Gore said he was against zinc mining 2. Show me a mine that's never been fined by teh EPA"

So you're pretty much admitting that (2) mining may be harmful to the environment...and that (1) Gore isnt against zinc mining...dont you think someone who supposedly cares so much about the environment wouldnt own businesses that might harm the environment as significantly as strip mines?

10/2/2006 3:56:10 PM

dont you think someone who talks so much about politics on here would vote?

[Edited on October 2, 2006 at 4:04 PM. Reason : s]

10/2/2006 4:02:41 PM

And environmentalists' desire to protect the environment mandates that absolutely no economic activity can occur, because we're all a bunch of irrational liberials.

10/2/2006 4:04:41 PM