well to me it sounds like Hannity's viewpoint is for the Democrats not to vote because they are uninformed and will lose

on the other hand, i dont care much about either party, or voting for either party...Hannity is clearly partisan in specifically telling Democrats not to vote...I personally am not going to vote for either side

but if you want to say we have the same opinion just based on the "vote doesn't matter anyway" blurb which I'm sure caught your eye, then feel free to

10/20/2006 11:52:58 AM

For the third time

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"State409c All American 17409 Posts user info edit post Answer this Twista you troll dumbass Quote : "So what you are saying, is there is no candidate whatsoever that has any values/ideals that you align with? Do you have any idea how the democratic process works?""

10/20/2006 11:53:32 AM

congratulations for learning how to clarify which question you want answered

you are really making progress today State409c...on an elementary school level that is

10/20/2006 11:55:32 AM

And a fourth time since you still can't read

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"State409c All American 17410 Posts user info edit post For the third time Quote : "State409c All American 17409 Posts user info edit post Answer this Twista you troll dumbass Quote : "So what you are saying, is there is no candidate whatsoever that has any values/ideals that you align with? Do you have any idea how the democratic process works?"""

10/20/2006 11:56:02 AM

- no thats not what im saying
- yes i have an idea how the democratic process works

hope that makes your day

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"And a fourth time since you still can't read"

oh and congratulations for learning how to count higher than 2!

10/20/2006 11:56:35 AM

A few simple things that would help social security is to:

1.) Require people to pay social security on all their earned income, not just the first $86,000

2.) Base the size of payments on people's income/assets and what they actually paid into the system. I don't think it's unfair to ask milliionaires to do without their $200 check. This might be possible with an incentive based system (tax credits, etc), rather than simply taking away.

3.) Create a job subsidy/tax credit program for people receiving social security that allows the private sector to foot some of the bill for supporting the elderly who are capable of working. This would encourage the private sector to create jobs suitable for the elderly, reduce the gov't's expenses, and increase the elderly's income.

10/20/2006 11:58:57 AM

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"- yes i have an idea how the democratic process works "

Statements you have made in this thread imply otherwise.

10/20/2006 11:59:24 AM

no they dont

however statements you've made imply you dont know the difference in 2 and 7

10/20/2006 11:59:48 AM

Sure they do, you said you won't vote for anyone. Doesn't seem like you understand how the democratic process works.

You have gained nothing for yourself if you don't vote.

10/20/2006 12:00:39 PM

i understand the democratic process

so you're wrong

if i was going to vote for candidate A...or if I liked candidate A...and i didnt vote at all...and Candidate A still won...how would I gain anything different if I had voted?

btw we dont live in a true democracy, its a representative republic...fyi

10/20/2006 12:01:51 PM

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" You have gained nothing for yourself if you don't vote."

this is clearly not true

10/20/2006 12:02:18 PM

Ugh, you think that anecdotal scenario is enough to prove you understand?

Here's a crazy idea

Candidate A doesn't win.

10/20/2006 12:02:42 PM

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"what am i afraid the dems would do?? - stop listening to terrorist conversations - confer constitutional rights on terrorists - pull out of iraq - "handle" the situations in iran and NK with those amazingly succesfull talks that they always want...and by giving out basketballs - raise taxes - install activist judges - try to make me like gay marriage - not try to solve the social security problem that we have - bend over to the wishes of everyone who has a problem with the united states - let terrorists decide what our foreign policy should be"

Republican fear mongering. This is what they do. They try to redefine the democrats ideals. Do you really beleive democrats priorities are raising taxes, marrying gays, and installing activist judges?

What makes you think they would do any of that? If we have a democratic president and a narrow republican majority in congress, how exactly would the democrats do all of this?

[Edited on October 20, 2006 at 12:04 PM. Reason : ?]

10/20/2006 12:02:45 PM

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"If we have a democratic president and a narrow republican majority in congress"

if we had that, NOTHING would get accomplished

10/20/2006 12:03:14 PM

haha...what makes me thing that?? thier actions and statements over the last 10 year....what makes you think they would not want to do all that?

10/20/2006 12:03:52 PM

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"if we had that, NOTHING would get accomplished"

We have had that and this country enjoyed 8 of it's best years. It requires a consensus instead of one party forcing it's bullshit on the country.

[Edited on October 20, 2006 at 12:07 PM. Reason : ?]

10/20/2006 12:05:17 PM

trikk311: feel free to offer evidence of the party (not a few wackos) supporting any of that stuff.

10/20/2006 12:06:13 PM

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"Here's a crazy idea Candidate A doesn't win. "

ok so lets say I vote for Candidate A and Candidate A doesnt win

how the fuck did I gain anything for myself

10/20/2006 12:07:33 PM

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"well to me it sounds like Hannity's viewpoint is for the Democrats not to vote because they are uninformed and will lose "

i agree, and you have said this before:

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"if you voted in NC for gore or kerry your opinion doesnt matter either because NC was a red state"

and this:

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"so you think its better for the country that more people vote, regardless of how obliviously ignorant they are to the issues???"

...so you basically said it doesn't matter if you voted for kerry in north carolina because he was going to lose (just like hannity) and that you don't think its good for ignorant people to vote (just like hannity).

so again, i ask you, how is your opinion different from his? the only difference i see is that he is talking directly to dems, and you are talking to everyone....that doesn't change the philosophy though.

10/20/2006 12:09:02 PM

If candidate A lost by 30,000 votes and 40,000 people had that attitude.

10/20/2006 12:09:17 PM

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"so you basically said it doesn't matter if you voted for kerry in north carolina because he was going to lose (just like hannity) "

is hannity just referring to north carolina?

^if if if if if if if

10/20/2006 12:09:38 PM

same concept. youre talking about losing in one state, and hes talking about losing overall. different scope, same concept.

10/20/2006 12:10:55 PM

Does anybody here doubt that if only educated and informed people could vote, that the democrats would dominate?

10/20/2006 12:11:03 PM

yes

10/20/2006 12:12:13 PM

^^i bet roughly half the country would disagree

^if all youre trying to do is say i have the same opinion as hannity, then go right ahead...but i'm sure hannity will vote if that changes your mind

[Edited on October 20, 2006 at 12:13 PM. Reason : .]

10/20/2006 12:12:26 PM

The half that's uneducated and poorly informed.

10/20/2006 12:13:10 PM

^you think its that cut and dry?

there are no educated and informed republicans?

there are no uneducated and uninformed democrats?

...

10/20/2006 12:13:43 PM

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"ok so lets say I vote for Candidate A and Candidate A doesnt win how the fuck did I gain anything for myself "

So you aren't aware of referendum votes, or the concept of a coalition - both tenets of the democractic process?

10/20/2006 12:14:48 PM

why dont you specifically tell me what I would gain...i know specifics arent your strong point but give it a shot

10/20/2006 12:15:31 PM

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"if all youre trying to do is say i have the same opinion as hannity, then go right ahead"

thats all i said. you were the one who got all defensive about it...to which i backed up with things you have said, just so you wouldnt think i was putting words in your mouth.

10/20/2006 12:15:35 PM

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"the only difference i see is that he is talking directly to dems, and you are talking to everyone."

apparently thats an insignificant difference to you

let alone the fact that he was talking to people and telling them what he thinks they should do, and i was giving my own personal opinion and what i alone do...but those are just meaningless minor differences i guess

[Edited on October 20, 2006 at 12:17 PM. Reason : .]

10/20/2006 12:16:17 PM

the scope is a moot point. the philosophy remains the same no matter who are you talking to.

10/20/2006 12:16:58 PM

im not talking to anyone

im saying what i do

hes urging people

but ok whatever you say

10/20/2006 12:17:27 PM

again, thats a moot point. the philosophy remains the same.

10/20/2006 12:18:44 PM

so hannity votes

and i dont

but we have the same philosophy

k

10/20/2006 12:19:20 PM

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"^you think its that cut and dry? there are no educated and informed republicans? there are no uneducated and uninformed democrats?"

No, I'm saying that it would favor the democrats. Especially now that the republican party is synonymous with christian extremeism which tends to repel the business conservatives who tend to be the highly educated faction of republicans.

10/20/2006 12:19:37 PM

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"so hannity votes and i dont but we have the same philosophy "

that is correct. he just applies his philosophy to a specific group of people, and you don't. that merely changes the scope, not the idea itself.


[Edited on October 20, 2006 at 12:21 PM. Reason : df]

10/20/2006 12:21:29 PM

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"why dont you specifically tell me what I would gain...i know specifics arent your strong point but give it a shot"

Why should I get specific? You said you have a grasp of the democratic process, but your words continue to prove otherwise.

Look, either you are pretty clever, and just playing dumb thinking you are trolling us because we keep responding, or you are really this dumb. Which is it?

10/20/2006 12:22:27 PM

^^^"favor the democrats" is a much more realistic possibility than "the democrats would dominate"

^^ok im sure youre proud of supposedly accomplishing something meaningless...whereas his scope is all democrats...and my scope is...myself...gg?

^please stop berrating me with cuss-word filled PMs just because you hate me passionately since you have no control over you emotions

[Edited on October 20, 2006 at 12:24 PM. Reason : .]

10/20/2006 12:22:27 PM

funny, you've done the same to me:

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"From : TreeTwista10 To : sober46an3 Received : Tuesday June 27, 2006 at 1:26 PM Subject : man you're a dumbass "

[Edited on October 20, 2006 at 12:26 PM. Reason : g]

10/20/2006 12:25:08 PM

thats "cuss-word filled"?

how about compared to this most recent PM?

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"From : State409c To : TreeTwista10 Received : Friday October 20, 2006 at 10:51 AM Subject : Re: Suspend these fuckheads No, fuck you asshole. You're gonna see the communications between duke and I so there are no questions as to why you are suspended or banned from TSB. Get the fuck out. How are you this stupid? "

10/20/2006 12:26:31 PM

Well if you consider the last two presidential elections to show our country virtually 50/50, then the democrats would have considerably more power than the republicans have had over the last 6 years. I would define dominate as holding both houses and the presidency and being able to single handidly overide a fillibuster. I don't know that they would dominate by that standard, but it would be close.

10/20/2006 12:26:55 PM

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"^please stop berrating me with cuss-word filled PMs just because you hate me passionately since you have no control over you emotions"

Why don't reply to my statement in this thread? You have no understanding of the democratic process. You don't vote. You don't add anything to this section, why are you here?

And I last sent a PM to you nearly 2 hrs ago now, why are you all defensive. Just answer the question, why are you here if you don't understand democracy, or politics?

10/20/2006 12:28:47 PM

i do understand democracy and politics

why are you here if you dont understand that everybody doesnt agree with your insane ideals and points of view?

you get irate and start cussing in all caps lock when you cant get your way...you're like an infant throwing a temper tantrum...its pathetic

ps: thanks for stopping with the PMs, even though I still dont know whytf you started sending them to me unsolicited in the first place

[Edited on October 20, 2006 at 12:31 PM. Reason : .]

10/20/2006 12:30:09 PM

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"why are you here if you dont understand that everybody doesnt agree with your insane ideals and points of view?"

I understand this perfectly well. Why do you keep insisting otherwise? Is it again, because you don't have the capability to comprehend what you read.

Answer this

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"Look, either you are pretty clever, and just playing dumb thinking you are trolling us because we keep responding, or you are really this dumb. Which is it?"

10/20/2006 12:33:19 PM

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"I still dont know whytf you started sending them to me unsolicited in the first place "

probably the same reason you had for sending me that pm.

10/20/2006 12:33:55 PM

^no actually i believe the reason i sent you that PM was because you sided with the aggravated assaulter in this thread like only a dumbass would do http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=417434&page=2#8962383

^^no you dont understand it perfectly well...thats why you just bitch and moan and whine when someone disagrees with you and you dont get your way

say what you want about me not voting...one thing ive never done is complain about who is in power like all you guys

10/20/2006 12:38:25 PM

It wasn't unsolicited in the strictest sense of the word, really. I put him and trikk on CC with communications to Duke demanding their suspension. I felt like they should know about it, only seemed fair to me.

10/20/2006 12:38:41 PM

^you know, you probably could've been more tactful than titling the PM's "Suspend these fuckheads"

but your typical anger got the best of you again I suppose

10/20/2006 12:40:10 PM

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"no actually i believe the reason i sent you that PM was because you sided with the aggravated assaulter in this thread like only a dumbass would do "

please show me where i sided with an aggravated assaulter.

10/20/2006 12:42:38 PM