You'll sure be wishing you took me seriously when you end up in hell for killing all these people.

[Edited on November 10, 2006 at 1:17 PM. Reason : ya we deserved it, and we obviously deserve more because 9/11 changed nothing]

11/10/2006 1:16:32 PM

trikk killed all those people? for real?

so you are saying that you deserve to die as well cathocutie?

[Edited on November 10, 2006 at 1:19 PM. Reason : a]

11/10/2006 1:18:07 PM

^^ yeah, I'm going to a place that doesn't exist when I die lol


I'm sure the people in those buildings were all like, "fuck it, we deserved it"

11/10/2006 1:19:14 PM

so the next time they blow up a building...if you happen to be in it...you will say.."well...i deserved it"....and itll be cool?? right??

I KILLED THESE PEOPLE?!!?...hahaha....what a dumb slut

[Edited on November 10, 2006 at 1:23 PM. Reason : asdf]

11/10/2006 1:23:28 PM

Supporting a murderer or allowing a murder to happen is the same as murder.

I have been reconciled through Penance.

[Edited on November 10, 2006 at 1:26 PM. Reason : I try to help too]

11/10/2006 1:25:01 PM

and how do you know that the people that died in the building weren't "reconciled through penance" ... because they died?

so when you say that those people deserved to die, wouldn't you say that you are "supporting their murder"?

[Edited on November 10, 2006 at 1:27 PM. Reason : s]

[Edited on November 10, 2006 at 1:28 PM. Reason : sp]

11/10/2006 1:26:34 PM

Sure, some were, and they are in heaven right now. Everybody is going to die at some point. All I'm saying is that when you play with fire, don't go crying to mommy when you get burned. "Terrorists" are just defending their people from things like today. It's different when you're killing in self defense verses self upgrade.

11/10/2006 1:38:05 PM

well why do you whine when the palestinians fuck up and get bombed?

god you're an idiot

11/10/2006 1:42:44 PM

^^

bitch

shut the fuck up

you have said too much already




[Edited on November 10, 2006 at 1:43 PM. Reason : ^^]

11/10/2006 1:42:46 PM

Do you know for sure that there was even one person that died that wasn't "reconciled through penance"?

And what you are now talking about is completely different than saying those people deserved to die. The vast majority, if not every single one of the people that died had absolutely nothing to do with terrorism, except being the victims of it

also please answer: so when you say that those people deserved to die, wouldn't you say that you are "supporting their murder"?


[Edited on November 10, 2006 at 1:44 PM. Reason : a]

11/10/2006 1:43:15 PM

Catholcutie, shut the fuck up. You do nothing but make reasonable Palestine supporters look like the Likud equivalent.

11/10/2006 1:47:22 PM

the fucking aliases and trolls need to be fucking terminated

11/10/2006 1:50:10 PM

They were part of the United States. Guilty by association. They help fund the tanks that kill Palestinian babies. They elect and support a government that supports this. If they spoke out against it or went and practiced Reconciliation they may be fine.

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"Do you know for sure that there was even one person that died that wasn't "reconciled through penance"?"

Based on American demographics I think it's safe to say a very small % were. Many Americans don't even think God exists much to say are true Catholics or people who seek grace. So ya, I know for sure.

I am not supporting their murder I am just making logical sense out of the situation. If you have sex with 100 women and get an STD I would think you deserved it. Doesn't mean i wanted you to get one.

The Palestinians can't really screw up in their own homeland, they are just protecting their homeland and trying to drive occupants away. The Jews would have been accepted into Palestine if they just joined the population instead of taking over.

11/10/2006 1:57:12 PM

This stupid cunt has me hating catholics now.


and i'm fucking catholic.

11/10/2006 2:03:35 PM

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"They were part of the United States. Guilty by association. They help fund the tanks that kill Palestinian babies. They elect and support a government that supports this. If they spoke out against it or went and practiced Reconciliation they may be fine."

you are a stupid fucking bitch

11/10/2006 2:05:17 PM

^you have no room to talk

from feedback forum:

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"That is because you are a dumb fucking white kid who now, because he lives with mr. willis thinks he is black. "

apparently nutsmackr thinks i live with mr willis now

i bet to him all black people are the same though

FUCKING RACIST FAGGOT

11/10/2006 2:08:35 PM

All black people aren't the same?

11/10/2006 2:09:19 PM

That's because people have said you live with him. Then again, you think on the level of a 2 year old who lacks all capacity for logic and reason.

11/10/2006 2:09:45 PM

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"That's because people have said you live with him"

DO U BELEIVE EVERYTHING YOU READ ON TWW NUTSMACKR???

11/10/2006 2:10:40 PM

Goodness gracious......this thread is filled with pro-israelis.....LOL

DEATH to israel!

11/10/2006 2:34:41 PM

Well, we are in America: the home of blind support for Israel.

11/10/2006 2:45:13 PM

if you got run over by an israeli bulldozer i'd be

and that doesnt have anything to do with support for either side. i just hate you

[Edited on November 10, 2006 at 2:50 PM. Reason : .]

11/10/2006 2:49:38 PM

Blind Hate. Death to the jews!!!!

11/10/2006 2:59:00 PM

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"hey republican, relatively speaking, all those weapons you show are sticks and stones against this"

if you read my post you would see that i said

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"the militants may be slightly out gunned due to a lack of airpower and mechanized units but to call them poorly armed is fuckin rediculous"

i ceded the point that yes israel obviously has superior firepower, that was not my point that they were equal. my point was that while being slightly outgunned they are NOT poorly armed. they are very well funded and armed by iran, and if iran could keep it under the table you know damn well they would have tanks also. but thats besides the point. the point is they are not pooprly armed with sticks and stones. they have very capable weapons, even weapons capable of taking out israeli armored vehicles. hell you can take out a bradley fighting vehicle with an RPG if ya aim it right (trust me i know) so the point is that the militants are clearly a formidable foe. what they lack in superior weapons they make up for in tenacity and fanaticism. and any fuckin retard thats ever read a history book will see countless examples of an under armed army beating a superior army through tenacity and tactics. so my long point after all this is that the palestinians have no right, nor does israel, to target civilians on purpose. but when the palestininas/hezzbollah purposely use civilians as sheilds, of course there will be civilain casualties to be used as pawns for propaganda which you liberals fall for all of the time.

[Edited on November 10, 2006 at 4:01 PM. Reason : .]

11/10/2006 4:00:06 PM

Iran arms Hezbollah, a lebonese militant organization that is not comprised of Palestinians, rather Shias

11/10/2006 4:02:39 PM

believe me, money n arms still come in

11/10/2006 4:47:35 PM

you are right. They get their funding from Saudi Arabia, not Syria and not Iran
(minor organizations may get funding from those two countries, but in general, no). Unless of course you are Hamas, then you get your funding from Israel. Look up the creation of Hamas and you will discover that is was created by Israel inorder to draw power away from the PLF/PLO.


The mid-east countries talk about how they support the Palestinians, but when it comes to providing finances they are silent.

11/10/2006 4:50:54 PM

The people with the RPG's aren't killing civilians. How often do you hear about an RPG attack on a civilian? Even if they did an RPG firing on an armed vehicle doen't guarantee any real damage (and you need clearance to get into heavy military areas). However strapping bombs onto yourself and going into a crowded area does...

11/10/2006 5:27:31 PM

Quote :

"Ze anti-Zemitic TWW forces ist at it again, Fuhrer!"

So are the Jews who are opposed to Zionism Nazis too?

Orthodox Judaism is completely opposed to modern Zionism, as the only one who is to lead the Jewish people to the Promised Land is, in fact, the messiah. I don't think the messiah's name was Lord Balfor, either.

[Edited on November 11, 2006 at 3:21 AM. Reason : .]

11/11/2006 3:19:59 AM

First of all, here's a link: http://brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=437275

Too many people are equating Palestinians to Hamas. Why do uninvolved Palestinians deserve to die for Hamas' actions, including children? I don't even know where to start in this thread. Let me start here:

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"Israel did today what it does best....."

While they certainly kill innocent Palestinians and are great at it, I'd say they're probably best at spending American tax dollars.

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"we all gotta go sometime"

What a great way to justify the deaths of innocents!

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"but where are the threads when the palestinians suicide bomb buses/cafes/clubs or when they indiscriminately rain down rockets into civilian areas. fuck the palestinians....fuckin liberal hypocrite"

Because we all acknowledge that Hamas are a bunch of animals as well? Nobody excuses their behavior. Israel, on the other hand, proclaims itself to be the moral high ground. Oh, we also FUND Israel. This is in our best interest to see the monstrous actions they take. Lets you know where your tax dollars are going.

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"Zieg heil! Ze anti-Zemitic TWW forces ist at it again, Fuhrer!"

Anti-Israel does not suggest Anti-Semetic, Perry Mason. God damn, if this is how you reason you must be the shittiest lawyer ever.

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"yeah, and how many kids have died as a result of the palestinians targeting civilians."

Here's a characterization of the situation:

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"Israeli Fatalities of Minors Under Age 18 October 2001 to May 5, 2002 Israelis Minors Killed by Palestinians in the Occupied Territories: 14 (ages 5 months to 17) (1 by stoning, 2 by beating and stoning, 7 by gunfire and 4 by suicide bombing) 12 percent of total civilian fatalities (117) Israeli Minors Killed by Palestinians in Israel: 37 (ages 7 months to 17) (2 by gunfire and 35 by suicide bombing) 21 percent of total civilian fatalities (178) Source: B'Tselem, Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories ---------- Palestinian Fatalities of Minors Under Age 18 October 2001 to May 5, 2002 Palestinian Minors Killed by Israeli Security Forces in Occupied Territories 210 (ages 4 months to 17) 22 percent of total civilian fatalities (956)Palestinian Minors Killed by Israeli Citizens in Occupied Territories 1 (age 2 months) (by gunfire) 6 percent of total civilian fatalities (17) Palestinian Minors Killed by Israeli Security Forces in Israel 1 (age 14) (by Israeli police force) 5 percent of total civilian fatalities (22) Deaths of Palestinian Minors Caused by Delay in Obtaining Medical Treatment Due to Israeli Restriction of Movement 8 (stillborn to age 11) 35 percent of total civilian fatalities (23) Source: B'Tselem, Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories"

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"not to mention that the militants totally use human sheilds just so liberal morons like you can bitch and moan about civilian losses."

So this justifies Israeli cluster bombs, when other methods could be used instead? Just because the terrorists show no regard for innocent human life, why does this justify Israel in the same behavior?

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"you idiot liberals could care less when israeli civilians and kids are killed on purpose but when a few fuckin arab civilians are killed accidentally due to their use as human sheilds, you raise hell. you liberals only care about human life when it supports your twisted fuckin ideaology."

This is nothing short of ridiculous. I find it outrageous that any Israeli civilians die as a result of intentional terrorist acts. "A few fuckin' arab civilians" is a gross understatement. Here's some old numbers:

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"Palestinian Casualties: Adults and Minors in the West Bank and Gaza Strip September 2000 to May 6, 2002 Injuries: 19,189 Deaths: 1,538 Source: Palestine Red Crescent Society"

Not all of these were combatants. A little more than a few, and that's a short amount of time. Who knows what the numbers will stack up to be from all of the recent violence.

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"except i actually had logical arguements"

Logical arguments are great but they have to be sound.

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"almost sounds as bad as something the palestinians would do"

Almost as bad as something Hamas would do. Not the "palestinians." This is like pointing at Abu Ghraib and saying "Ha ha, let's treat our prisoners as bad as any American citizen would!"

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"What Palestinians do best is blow themselves up in crowded city marketplaces full of citizens...or maybe its stash their weapons in citizens' homes...you know since the Palestinians are so much more respectful and law abiding than the Israelis"

Palestinians != Hamas

All knights are nobles, not all nobles are knights. Jesus dude. And you got a diploma.

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"They were part of the United States. Guilty by association."

Shut the fuck up. Seriously. You have nothing intelligent to offer. You're as much of a monster as you accuse the Israelis of being.

11/11/2006 3:57:50 AM

Everyone here: stop posting and go watch The Chosen. It's probably the best way for you all to see that Orthodox Jews, those who actually follow the Torah as the central truth of Judaism, ARE OPPOSED TO MODERN ZIONISM.

True Zionism would be at odds with Modern Zionism because Modern Zionism has occured thanks to Great Britain and Lord Balfor, not the God of Abraham and the messiah as is supposed to occur.

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"They were part of the United States. Guilty by association. They help fund the tanks that kill Palestinian babies. They elect and support a government that supports this. If they spoke out against it or went and practiced Reconciliation they may be fine."

The idealism of your last sentence is admirable. We are the only power that could possibly negotiate anything right now. However, your attitude of self-hate and your desire to further drive a wedge here by equating Americans as moral supporters of Zionism will get you nowhere. You and Republican18 are the biggest pieces of shit in this thread.

Oh yeah, and Boston College blows.



[Edited on November 11, 2006 at 4:26 AM. Reason : ..]

11/11/2006 4:20:10 AM

USA did today what it does best....

US Vetoes Condemnation of Gaza Strikes

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/11/AR2006111100486.html

11/11/2006 8:08:52 PM

America is just as guilty then. If a police officer watches a murder being commited and does nothing they are a murderer too if you ask me.

Most Americans ignore or approve what their government is doing and then wonder why people hate us. They have a right to hate us if we are killing them. They also have a natural right to kill us in self defense from being killed by us.

Speak out against atrocity, people! Stand up for what is right!

11/11/2006 8:34:14 PM

this is more than just doing nothing, this is actively protecting the murderer.

11/11/2006 8:47:34 PM

The Arabs started it...

11/11/2006 9:18:17 PM

i love how all the jew haters / muslims / american terrorist sympathizers / n00bs came out of the wood work for this thread

11/11/2006 11:14:28 PM

because anti-zionism = anti-jew I guess I hate my own family now, eh?

do you even know the history of zionism, its roots, etc.? It is actually illegitimate as defined in Orthodox Judaism.

[Edited on November 12, 2006 at 1:08 AM. Reason : .]

11/12/2006 1:00:42 AM

Quote :

"The Jews would have been accepted into Palestine if they just joined the population instead of taking over"

I doubt it.


However, I do agree that the U.S. needs to control Israel better. The U.S. has used what-7 or 8- vetoes in the past couple of years all relating to Israel. If Israel knows the U.S. will bail them out then they will keep doing it.

11/12/2006 2:18:34 PM

11/12/2006 3:09:34 PM

^^ werent they living in relative peace before the jews started buying all the land and stuff

11/12/2006 3:22:20 PM

Fucking Bolton.

The resolution was put forward by Qatar (a MUSLIM country), and unbelievably, aside from condemning the bombing and calling on Israel to leave Gaza, it also called on Palestinians to stop firing rockets into Israel.

This is UNFUCKINGPRECEDENTED for a Muslim country to tell them to stop firing rockets into Israel.

But still, fucking Bolton bastard had a problem with it. He said it was "biased". Wow, that's fucking rich coming from the asshole's mouth. I hope he fucking dies.


And BTW,

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"i love how all the jew haters / muslims / american terrorist sympathizers / n00bs came out of the wood work for this thread"

i love how all the zionazis / premillenial dispensationalists / bush lovers / baby killers / fucking idiots came out of the wood work for this thread

11/12/2006 5:29:27 PM

so just because it is unprecedented for an arab country to condemn mass-murder by the palestinians, the fact that they added a meaningless clause in a draconian resolution against Israel is cause for the US to support it

man it really must be a mind-trip to negotiate with u fockers

[Edited on November 12, 2006 at 5:44 PM. Reason : s]

11/12/2006 5:43:54 PM

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"draconian resolution"

???

So condemning the massacre of civilians and asking the troops to leave Gaza is draconian?

Wow, you TRULY are a baby-killer, aren't you? I bet you cheered at pics from Abu Ghraib and pics of dead Arab babies.

11/12/2006 6:00:29 PM

***ISRAEL CAUGHT STEALING PALESTINIAN BABIES***


[Edited on November 12, 2006 at 6:20 PM. Reason : ;P]

11/12/2006 6:19:31 PM

^^ only you would call hamas militants "civilians"

gg

11/12/2006 6:38:09 PM

Quote :

"The resolution was put forward by Qatar (a MUSLIM country), and unbelievably, aside from condemning the bombing and calling on Israel to leave Gaza, it also called on Palestinians to stop firing rockets into Israel."

That sounds fair to me. Why did we veto it then?

11/12/2006 7:29:10 PM

because the rest of it was the usual arab vitriol and anti-semitic demands and accusations

[Edited on November 12, 2006 at 7:36 PM. Reason : s]

11/12/2006 7:36:37 PM

Quote :

"Supporting a murderer or allowing a murder to happen is the same as murder."

I guess that makes you a murderer, since you condone palestinian suicide bombings, which is murder.

BURNED

11/12/2006 9:15:33 PM

I don't condone pure murder nor do i condone revenge murder, however; Murder as self defense is a bit different. If someone is forced to commit a murder the person who forced them to murder is the real murderer.

11/12/2006 10:37:21 PM

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"I don't condone pure murder nor do i condone revenge murder, however; Murder as self defense is a bit different. If someone is forced to commit a murder the person who forced them to murder is the real murderer. -cathocutie "

that's one for the record books.

11/12/2006 10:45:58 PM