spooner All American 1860 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha, if she's pissed about our teams' performances the past four years, it's a good thing she wasn't at state from '96-'00 like me. we made ZERO ncaa tournaments and won ZERO bowl games. heck, the only bowl game we went to was the micron pc bowl in '98 and got our asses whooped by miami.
we beat carolina a total of 1 time in basketball, and none in football during that stretch. we beat duke once in basketball, in the '97 acc tournament, but that was it. y'all had hodge, simmons, and bennerman. i had kenny inge, archie miller, and tim wells.
so she's pissed about her tenure at state, shit, i'm jealous of y'all. 11/29/2006 3:29:06 PM |
buddha1747 All American 5067 Posts user info edit post |
she also criticizes us for hiring a former player and then praises UNC for the same thing. 11/29/2006 3:29:58 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
^^ you were in college at 15? impressive
[Edited on November 29, 2006 at 3:30 PM. Reason : d] 11/29/2006 3:30:00 PM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
^^^cant forget to add the great marcus melvin and Nelly himself (sherrill) in that class....
now THAT is something to be jealous of... 11/29/2006 3:31:19 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
she was making the point that UNC got their first choice and that we had to settle 11/29/2006 3:31:38 PM |
spooner All American 1860 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ hahaha, haven't updated my profile on here in a while...
but i can't complain too much, i did get to watch the two best athletes state has had in the past 20 years - torry holt and cc harrison. don't front on CC!
[Edited on November 29, 2006 at 3:36 PM. Reason : .] 11/29/2006 3:32:43 PM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
^^Roy was 1st choice because they already had it worked out that he would replace Doh midway through that season....
They never really had the position "open" that year....
[Edited on November 29, 2006 at 3:32 PM. Reason : ^] 11/29/2006 3:32:48 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
I dont' give a shit about carolina 11/29/2006 3:33:43 PM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
^LOL, hes such a great liar! He was dying to jump on that tarhole bandwagon the whole time...
[Edited on November 29, 2006 at 3:39 PM. Reason : I mean Roy of course] 11/29/2006 3:38:57 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
yeah the bit about the Vet school being far away is a gem too.
She even mentions Wake's medical school....which....if you're not familiar with the area....is about an 8-10 minute drive away from their main campus. 11/29/2006 3:44:21 PM |
wolfNstein All American 2353 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "she was making the point that UNC got their first choice and that we had to settle" |
i'll repeat what i said on the first page....she obviously wasn't around when they botched the coaching search after they forced Gut to retire. unc got turned down by roy boy and everyone else imaginable.
in 2000 they didn't get their first choice...
or their 2nd choice..
or their 3rd choice
or their 4th choice
or their 5th choice
or their 6th choice
or their 7th choice
they had to settle for Doh!
she obviously wasn't around when UNC got "Beamer'd"
you think Torbush or Bunting were their 1st choice?
that closet tarhole needs to realize even the "great" unc has to settle sometimes. when Bitch leaves in a few years, they'll have to settle again.11/29/2006 3:54:30 PM |
JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
i gave her a comment cause that shit pissed me off
should be up in like 20 mins 11/29/2006 6:38:24 PM |
bumpintahoe All American 2077 Posts user info edit post |
Their first problem was letting a bitch write about sports. 11/29/2006 6:44:13 PM |
ewalk All American 1031 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Their first problem was letting a bitch write about sports." |
11/29/2006 6:50:57 PM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
hahahaha, you guys are mad that a girl has an opinion on sports
that said, she was being a complete tool 11/29/2006 6:54:31 PM |
JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
no im mad because they let a girl publish her opinion on sports. 11/29/2006 6:57:42 PM |
sjgerard Starting Lineup 96 Posts user info edit post |
yeah this article was stupid but she did have a few good points. The construction is kind of annoying but i suppose its supposed to help the campus. Hillzboro is a joke i have to admit, it looks like shit and central campus is tacky as hell, take a look at the book store. She fuckin dumb but i understand where she is coming from. 11/29/2006 7:11:59 PM |
ncsucharlie Suspended 4074 Posts user info edit post |
the entire article is hypocrisy at its finest .. it is people like her that write these articles that NC State is a shit hole while bashing the entire University and wonder why NC State has a negative connotation.
FUCK YOU
11/29/2006 7:13:26 PM |
ncsucharlie Suspended 4074 Posts user info edit post |
my comment on this article hasnt' showed up yet, they have to screen them is why .. just like calling in to the Chuck A Motto show. 11/29/2006 7:55:16 PM |
JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i think they wont show mine because i started it with "You're a joke" 11/29/2006 7:56:14 PM |
Walt Sobchak All American 1189 Posts user info edit post |
as bad as that article was, i actually thought the list of potential candidates article was worse. i mean, do you think that someone has a subscription to packpride premium? hmmm.... 11/29/2006 8:41:54 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
^ although it's not as if you were actually expecting news on the matter (or any other matter) out of the technician, right?
edit:
Quote : | "yeah i think they wont show mine because i started it with "You're a joke"" |
from what i've seen, they don't hesitate to print letters/comments telling them how bad they are, which is probably the only good thing that they do.
[Edited on November 29, 2006 at 9:26 PM. Reason : ]11/29/2006 9:22:23 PM |
GoldieO All American 1801 Posts user info edit post |
it seems like you guys covered pretty much everything, but the part that really grinds my gears is where she says hillsborough st is a joke bc brothers pizza is closed. two guys is still there and it is ten times better than brothers ever was. two guys rules... 11/29/2006 9:23:52 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it is people like her that write these articles that NC State is a shit hole while bashing the entire University and wonder why NC State has a negative connotation.
FUCK YOU " |
11/29/2006 9:43:31 PM |
Thecycle23 All American 5913 Posts user info edit post |
Be very careful here. It's a column, not an article, which is a BIG deal because it is her opinion only.
The viewpoint columns are NOT the opinion of the paper. It was this ONE writer's opinion. The editors have nothing to do with the content of a column. That is completely up to the columnist, who is writing his or her OWN opinion only.
[Edited on November 29, 2006 at 10:26 PM. Reason : ing] 11/29/2006 10:26:07 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
right, and the columnist is writing about things she clearly does not know about. we're not disagreeing with her opinion, we're saying that she's very misinformed, much too misinformed to be writing about what she is. 11/29/2006 10:36:05 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
Her own opinion is garbage and full of false information and irrelevant facts.
[Edited on November 29, 2006 at 10:43 PM. Reason : ] 11/29/2006 10:42:55 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
She's been a consistent embarassment to journalism and the school for years now.
I think this was her first article where she doesn't complain about how her roommate gets to chill out at night b/c he works while she still has to do schoolwork. BOO HOO. 11/29/2006 10:44:03 PM |
Erios All American 2509 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Dear Meghan,
I agree with you that NC State athletics has been a disappointment in the basketball and football realms. We have a football team that never quite lived up to expectations, capped by a 7-game losing streak to end our 2006 compaign. We also have a basketball team that went 5-22 against rivals UNC and Duke under Coach Sendek's tenure. The search for Herb's replacement also brought considerable negative press, to the point that ESPN commentators used the Pack's open position as a punchline.
So yes, you have much to be disgruntled about.
However, you let your personal feelings get in the way of good journalism in your article.
1) A lack of prowress in football and basketball does not constitute an inferior athletics department. I'm sure you know that and admit that was out of line.
2) "I have felt little pride and a great deal of disappointment when watching our men's football and basketball teams play. With the exception of the win against Connecticut in the 2005 NCAA tournament, our teams let us down"
Our teams have not let us down. Great college teams are a priviledge, not a right. If you believe the athletic department fairly evaluating each situation, or the coaching staff is not performing up to par, then demand change and leave it at that.
3) Before the hiring of Butch Davis UNC has not had a decent football coach since Mack Brown. Before hiring Roy Williams UNC had not had a decent basketball coach since Dean Smith. Three years ago I think any sane person would have taken Amato and Sendek over Bunting and Doherty. Yeah things look bad now, but what counts is how we progress. The Pack has a chance to start fresh with new basketball and football coaches, so how about we see how things go.
4) I would also suggest you wait and see what Mr. Lowe and his staff can accomplish at NC State before saying the Pack "ended up with him as coach." This man worked under Larry Brown (a UNC alum) and coached the likes of Ben Wallace and Rip Hamilton, to name a few. Do recall UNC picked up Matt Doherty just a few years ago, so even UNC "ended up" with someone previously.
5) "It is also my job as a student to support my school and my teams even when we are down, but the embarrassment I felt at the UNC-NCSU game this year was too much. Standing in a sea of high-fiving Carolina fans as we failed to score even one touchdown was the low of my career at this school."
Being a true fan means taking the good with the bad. Use your sentiments to fuel change instead of bad mouthing your own school. It's unprofessional and comes off as bitterness and whining.
6) You did not provide any evidence that alumni with season tickets are not coming to the game. The school also uses the money earned from season tickets to pay for atheltic expenses, something they wouldn't get if the students got them for free. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
7) You cite no statistics indicating that UNC receives more money in alumni donations than NC State. Therefore you have no grounds to say that the med school and law school at Chapel hill breed better donors than our Engineering programs. This is simply irresponsible journalism.
8) Jimmie V left amid recruiting scandals that left UNC and Duke unscathed, though it was rumored both of the other school were equally guilty. Transitions from a dark past are not easy, so lets not judge too harshly. For the record Sendek led us out of thjose dark times and we have him to thank in part for our current boost in recruiting.
The success of Philip Rivers led to a boost in season tickets and several additions to Carter-Finley. I'd say its fair to conclude the Pack did in fact use his fame to their advantage. What they could not foresee was that Rivers deserved more credit and the coaching staff less. When this became apparent, Amato was fired accordingly.
9) No one is overlooking NC State, nor is anyone satisfied with mediocrity. Changes have been made to help the Pack continue to improve and reasert itself on a national scene. As long as the Pack makes decisions that improve our team's standings then we have no where to go but up. Support changes where necessary, and always back the teams.
Your intentions are well met, but I was embarrassed by your lack of journlistic integrity. I am sure you will take more care in writing future articles." |
11/29/2006 11:33:28 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
you write that? Good job. I'd have called her an irresponsible slut. 11/30/2006 12:18:28 AM |
ewalk All American 1031 Posts user info edit post |
i was just thinking, isn't this the chick that wrote the dixie chick article? basically saying we all needed to go out and buy their CD just b/c they bashed bush. 11/30/2006 12:58:41 AM |
arhodes All American 1612 Posts user info edit post |
GG Erios. Make sure you fix "prowess" before you send it, though. 11/30/2006 1:32:19 AM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
i also had a class with her. Never understood how a columnist could be so quiet in class -- seriously, it was like a 15 person class and had a lot of class discussion, but I never heard a word from her. And then she talked during her year-end presentation. And then I knew why she never talked.
[Edited on November 30, 2006 at 3:21 AM. Reason : ] 11/30/2006 3:21:26 AM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This man worked under Larry Brown (a UNC alum) and coached the likes of Ben Wallace and Rip Hamilton" |
When did he work under Brown?
Saunders coached the Pistons last season.11/30/2006 5:30:28 AM |
superchevy All American 20874 Posts user info edit post |
i had written a well thought out, factual response to her editorial, but it wasn't posted.
[Edited on November 30, 2006 at 1:47 PM. Reason : ] 11/30/2006 1:47:28 PM |
Erios All American 2509 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Doh... 11/30/2006 2:17:56 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
but he was an NBA head coach for 4 seasons. He was promoted when a coach was fired, and retained through the end of the year and for the year after....then he was hired to coach Vancouver or someone shitty even after the flop with the T-wolves. I'm not sure what order the teams came in, but thats the sequence of his head coaching experience.
He didnt have any success in the NBA, but he was the coach of some notoriously horrible teams and was even told by a couple of people that he just simply was not going to win with the personel he had. 11/30/2006 3:04:39 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The 2000-01 NBA season became Sidney Lowe's second stint as a head coach when he assumed the role for the Vancouver Grizzlies. He was the fifth head coach in the team's short history and led them to a franchise-best record of 23-59 in his first season and again the following season in 2001-02, when the Grizzlies relocated to Memphis." |
signs that it's not necessarily the coache's fault.11/30/2006 3:42:33 PM |
ncsucharlie Suspended 4074 Posts user info edit post |
erios, that was a brilliant rebuttal .. it is a shame that they did not post that reply if you did indeed submit it. they didn't put my comment up either, which was also an appropriate rebuttal. Way to go Technician. 11/30/2006 6:50:00 PM |
Pred73 Veteran 239 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, she's stupid. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the alumni pay-out the remainder of Chuck's contract? Doesn't seem much likea lack of alumni support to me.
Also, if WF has this great law school, then why do they hold their classes at NCSU? I work at the McKimmon Center and they have classes there all the time. I guess that blows her Vet School arguement out of the water as well. Not that any of this has anything to do with sports.
She's outrageous and doesn't know what she's talking about. 11/30/2006 9:14:46 PM |