NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62457 Posts user info edit post |
Page 2 12/12/2006 11:58:27 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
for the people who dont like what Duke is doing, let me ask you this
if there are UNC students who happen to take a class at State...do you want them to have the opportunity to get NCSU student tickets to a NCSU/UNC bball game?
cause if you do you suck and you probably wear a dress margaret 12/12/2006 12:00:21 PM |
cookiepuss All American 3486 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "these UNC kids who are Duke students should sue" |
yeah, let's clog our legal system with lawsuits over TICKETS to a BASKETBALL GAME.
you're a complete idiot.
[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 12:04 PM. Reason : quote]12/12/2006 12:04:05 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And all this time I thought Tarheel was another word for faggot." |
12/12/2006 12:09:38 PM |
superchevy All American 20874 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "yeah, let's clog our legal system with lawsuits over TICKETS to a BASKETBALL GAME. " |
duke law >>> unc law.
[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 12:16 PM. Reason : ]12/12/2006 12:16:27 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
I'm sure their scholarship covers student fees in addition to their tuition.
Unfortunately, you can't simply deny priveledges (a specific student fee, for example) to some students while granting them to others. Therefore, this is probably illegal.
Duke is pathetic. 12/12/2006 12:21:54 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "for the people who dont like what Duke is doing, let me ask you this
if there are UNC students who happen to take a class at State...do you want them to have the opportunity to get NCSU student tickets to a NCSU/UNC bball game?
cause if you do you suck and you probably wear a dress margaret" |
Did you even go to NCSU? More importantly, are you even a real person?12/12/2006 12:24:11 PM |
superchevy All American 20874 Posts user info edit post |
there are unc students who take classes at state, and vice-versa. 12/12/2006 12:26:09 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
It's one thing to "take classes" (i.e. being an inter-institutional student). It's another thing to be "a student". 12/12/2006 12:27:04 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
its another thing to let students/fans of your rival school get your student tickets? wtf kind of sports fan are you ?
and yes, my degree says North Carolina State University on it obviously 12/12/2006 12:39:44 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
the point is you can't FORCE people to be fans of a school, and you certainly can't discriminate student priveledges based on their support of the school's atheletic program
AT LEAST NOT IN AMERICA 12/12/2006 12:44:36 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
i could care less about forcing people to be fans, but
Quote : | "and you certainly can't discriminate student priveledges based on their support of the school's atheletic program" |
you dont think fulltime NCSU students should have more priority at getting STUDENT TICKETS to NCSU HOMES GAMES than somebody who takes just one class at State?
although thats a different scenario than the Robertson Scholars, that was the perspective I was coming from
and technically are Robertson scholars exactly 50% Duke students and 50% UNC students? How are they legally classified on documents and transcripts?12/12/2006 12:48:44 PM |
tennwa33 All American 920 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "its another thing to let students/fans of your rival school get your student tickets? wtf kind of sports fan are you ?
" |
They are students at both schools. Thats the whole point.
[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 12:49 PM. Reason : sdfh]12/12/2006 12:48:48 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you dont think fulltime NCSU students should have more priority at getting STUDENT TICKETS to NCSU HOMES GAMES than somebody who takes just one class at State?" |
they are fulltime students at duke half the year. they are no more unc students than they are duke students. they just happen to be fans of unc basketball.12/12/2006 12:49:56 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
well i hear your point of view more now that i understand a little more about the Robertson students, but I dont have a problem with it
somebody taking 16 hours at Duke should have dibs over somebody taking 8 hours at Duke and 8 hours at UNC 12/12/2006 12:50:03 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Participants are supposed to have full student privileges on both campuses, including access to athletic events." |
That's the agreement that both schools made so under that agreement they should have all the rights of a Duke student, including access to the same seats it basketball games. I don't see how anyone can legally say they shouldn't.
That said, they should get the shit hazed out of them every second they are that arena and for however long it takes to get back to their place...12/12/2006 12:50:12 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " somebody taking 16 hours at Duke should have dibs over somebody taking 8 hours at Duke and 8 hours at UNC" |
they take ALL of their classes at duke one semester and ALL their classes at UNC the next. they LIVE at duke one semester and LIVE at unc the next. they effectively go to two schools.12/12/2006 12:54:28 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
I'D PREFER TO BE IGNORANT ON MATTERS SUCH AS THESE AND SIMPLY CALL UNC STUDENTS FAGGOTS 12/12/2006 12:55:17 PM |
tennwa33 All American 920 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "they take ALL of their classes at duke one semester and ALL their classes at UNC the next. they LIVE at duke one semester and LIVE at unc the next. they effectively go to two schools. " |
I believe they have the option to do this, but I thought they were only required to take one semester at the other school.12/12/2006 1:03:44 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
^^i like your holier than thou attitude on this, even though i'm sure from a sports fan perspective, you'd love for a bunch of tigers, twins and indians fans all around you at a whitesox game ] 12/12/2006 1:04:17 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
perhaps. i know that my friend was at both schools multiple semesters.
the times when she was at school or the other, she was a full-fledged student of that school. 12/12/2006 1:04:45 PM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
i support duke here 12/12/2006 1:05:59 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Duke's student senate voted last month to bar UNC Chapel Hill's Robertson scholars from Krzyzewskiville, saying their actions ruined the game for many Duke students last season." |
so you people who dont like this are against democracy]12/12/2006 1:06:47 PM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'D PREFER TO BE IGNORANT ON MATTERS SUCH AS THESE AND SIMPLY CALL UNC STUDENTS FAGGOTS" |
DOES A PILE OF SHIT BY ANY OTHER NAME NOT STILL STINK?12/12/2006 1:08:46 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
^^i'm against democracy if it leads to unfairly discriminating against people for their beliefs. 12/12/2006 1:10:10 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
discriminating? oh boo hoo, you cant go to a RECREATIONAL SPORTING EVENT with a FREE TICKET, you have to BUY A TICKET, big fucking deal, grow a pair, its not a fucking life or death situation and it has nothing to do with getting an education] 12/12/2006 1:11:02 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i like your holier than thou attitude on this, even though i'm sure from a sports fan perspective, you'd love for a bunch of tigers, twins and indians fans all around you at a whitesox game" |
I'd talk shit to them, because any visiting fan deserves some old-fashioned shittalking, but I wouldn't be mean or personal, and I certainly wouldn't recommend that the White Sox Organization only sell tickets to White Sox fans, because that'd be illegal.12/12/2006 1:11:47 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
the student Senate at Duke voted on it
if you dont like the rules, dont go to the university 12/12/2006 1:12:50 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 1:13 PM. Reason : i don't know why i bother. twista's just trolling. ]
12/12/2006 1:13:00 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
US Constitution trumps NC constitution which trumps UNC system policies which CERTAINLY trumps Duke's student government
jesus christ you are one good troll 12/12/2006 1:13:55 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
jesus christ you guys are a bunch of fucking crybabies and pussies
waaaaaaah waaaaaaaaah waaaaaaaaaaah 12/12/2006 1:14:25 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if you dont like the rules, dont go to the university" |
So you don't support those taking action against things such as the tailgating restrictions, the library closing early even during exam periods, etc, etc? I mean if you don't like the rules, don't go to the university...12/12/2006 1:17:40 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
^^^
Since when was Duke part of the UNC system? 12/12/2006 1:18:52 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
MY BAD DOG
Quote : | "US Constitution trumps NC constitution which trumps UNC system policies which CERTAINLY trumps Duke's student government" |
Now you're just splitting cunt hairs.12/12/2006 1:19:31 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
here's another cunt hair to split.
Duke's a private university. They're not discriminating against race, gender, and whatever else falls under the equal opportunity laws, so what parts of the US constitution and NC constitution apply here? 12/12/2006 1:22:33 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
yall seem like the same people who renamed the Red River Shootout the Red River Rivalry because Shootout might offend some people...oh no, some people getting a free education from 2 good schools cant get a free ticket to ONE BASKETBALL GAME...stop the presses...while you're at it, lets stop with rivalries...duke and unc should all sit in a circle and sing kumbaya and hold hands 12/12/2006 1:22:39 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
well then they should change the wording of their agreement. They are violating the current one so they just should just say participants have full student privileges on both campuses, including access to athletic events... unless they root for UNC.
Problem solved. This whole thing is stupid. If the Dookies can't take a UNC fan in their student section then they are spoiled. Just haze the fucker the whole game and move on...
[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 1:28 PM. Reason : to both] 12/12/2006 1:27:49 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "They're not discriminating against race, gender, and whatever else falls under the equal opportunity laws, so what parts of the US constitution and NC constitution apply here?" |
They're not discriminating. There is no worded contractual obligation to athletic events either, though previously it was assumed. Assuming their scholarship program is a legally binding agreement, however, I think the full time Duke students who are not allowed student priveledges because of a personal preference would have a winning court case. Duke University would have to prove that these UNC fans are causing substantial harm to others.. which is the only basis for an argument they have:
Quote : | "Duke's student senate voted last month to bar UNC Chapel Hill's Robertson scholars from Krzyzewskiville, saying their actions ruined the game for many Duke students last season." |
Give me a break.
It's a legal gray area, sure, but I think the UNC kids would have a case since they are full time Duke students and went through the same processes as other Duke students.
Quote : | "Problem solved. This whole thing is stupid. If the Dookies can't take a UNC fan in their student section then they are spoiled. Just haze the fucker the whole game and move on..." |
/thread
[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 1:31 PM. Reason : .]12/12/2006 1:28:05 PM |
LetsTAILGATE All American 2331 Posts user info edit post |
I agree with duke here. Anyone who sticks it to UNC go right ahead. I think its gay they went into K ville acting as if they would cheer on duke then showed in tarheel blue. gettfoutttaaaheeeere. 12/12/2006 1:30:12 PM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "their actions ruined the game for many Duke students last season" |
Talk about whining.
The only reason they were actually pissed was because Duke lost that game.12/12/2006 1:31:27 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
UNC should make Duke fans in their classes wear dunce caps. HAHA b/c duke sucks11! 12/12/2006 1:33:05 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
if you want to go to two fine universities who happen to be diehard sports rivals, every day isnt going to be perfect for you...grow a pair
its one fucking basketball game 12/12/2006 1:38:40 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, grow a pair. don't hide in your little student senate and make a new policy so you don't have to. this is what happens when you let college kids play grown ups. 12/12/2006 1:42:03 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
seriously...dont file some kind of suit because you werent allowed to wait in line for one free ticket to one recreational entertainment event that in no way affects your academic education...tough it out and watch it on tv...grow a pair] 12/12/2006 1:45:53 PM |
buddha1747 All American 5067 Posts user info edit post |
its not just one game. nowhere in the article does it say robertson students can be in K-Ville unless it is the UNC game. 12/12/2006 1:46:50 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
well i assumed since it was UNC fans, they wouldnt have too much interest in seeing Duke vs Clemson, etc 12/12/2006 1:48:00 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
no. GROW a pair and don't make a fucking policy because you can't intimidate UNC fans. 12/12/2006 1:48:07 PM |
spooner All American 1860 Posts user info edit post |
seriously, the biggest whiners here are the duke students. as i said, i guarantee had duke won that game they wouldn't have had this vote. but they're little bitches. i dislike both schools equally, so i feel i'm being unbiased.
the appropriate response would be (as stated earlier in the thread) either hazing the shit out of them, or the duke robertsons doing the same thing at the dean dome...not pissing and moaning and banning. 12/12/2006 1:50:07 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
the senate already voted...you cant "don't make a fucking policy" when the policy is already made
so in the present tense, the baby blue faggots need to grow a pair...did they get their scholarships just so they could sit in the student section of a duke/unc bball game at duke? 12/12/2006 1:50:41 PM |
Crede All American 7339 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the senate already voted...you cant "don't make a fucking policy" when the policy is already made" |
haha you're adorable12/12/2006 1:51:20 PM |