As long as some African kid lost his foot over it, she'll be happy.

2/2/2007 11:53:58 PM

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"That does not mean that everyone who ever purchased a diamond before you needs to be any less excited about their purchase... It just means what makes you tick is different."

ZOMG i thought i was the first one evAr to realize that the 4 C's were a load of BS. u totally put me in my place!11

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"You may ask OmarBadu, Just because a diamond is correctly proportionate and superior/ ideal cut on paper, also doesn't mean that they will look the same in person."

duh no shit. but i guarantee you that crunching numbers will eliminate about 90% of the crap thats out there before you start wasting time "looking at the diamonds"

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"others are just as pleased by walking around until they see 'the one' that they want to give her and say 'I'll take it' before even looking at the specs."

I can see why you, being a jewelry salesperson, would be eager to frame that type of person in such an accepting manner - wouldn't want them to wise up, now, would ya?

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"We sigh because we've found the right guy, not the right ring."

sorry about your ring, honey its not even about materialism vs. love in this situation. A stunning diamond does not exclude true love, but the poor girl who was given a dud ring is limited to saying things like what you just said

[Edited on February 3, 2007 at 12:41 AM. Reason : s]

2/3/2007 12:28:05 AM

you seem very very gay.

2/3/2007 12:58:02 AM

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"sorry about your ring, honey its not even about materialism vs. love in this situation. A stunning diamond does not exclude true love, but the poor girl who was given a dud ring is limited to saying things like what you just said"

Hahahaha, you assume somebody would actually marry me. Aww, you're sweet.

And no, a macromolecule made of carbon doesn't mean true love. There's no room for creativity if you limit yourself to diamond engagement rings. Hell, rings at all. If a guy wants to express himself to me that way, cool, but saying to someone you love "dude, this is WAY TOO SMALL- god you're incompetent and you must not love me" when he wants to spend the rest of his life with you is a douchebag thing to say.

It's therefore not really about the ring at all.

2/3/2007 12:59:15 AM

imagine that... someone on TWW thinks their opinion is the greatest!

even if you have a wife, i hate to tell you but the ring you got her isn't special. pat yourself on the back tough... you deserve it!!

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"you seem very very gay"

2/3/2007 1:52:01 AM

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"Hahahaha, you assume somebody would actually marry me."

lolzorz

2/3/2007 2:24:29 AM

[Edited on February 3, 2007 at 2:39 AM. Reason : I WILL DIE ALONE, OMG]

2/3/2007 2:36:56 AM

HOLLA.

2/3/2007 2:54:48 AM

^ "It smells like pussy in here... I think."

spookyjon: I don't know about you
spookyjon: but I won't wear anything that isn't infused with the blood of a thousand sudanese child slaves
spookyjon: their broken dreams make it sparkle

[Edited on February 3, 2007 at 2:58 AM. Reason : .]

2/3/2007 2:56:34 AM

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"If a guy wants to express himself to me that way, cool, but saying to someone you love "dude, this is WAY TOO SMALL- god you're incompetent and you must not love me""

you haven't read a single goddamn word i've written so stfu. everything i've said has been arguing against the "bigger is better" diamond mindset

2/3/2007 8:30:43 AM

Before I proposed I took my girlfriend to a few diamond stores and had her pick the diamond and the ring style. She's going to be wearing it, so I figured who better to pick it out than her. I even bought the ring in front of her. We ended up buying from Jared's. They were hands down the best option for us in the Charlotte area.

2/3/2007 8:33:06 AM

oh god. I can't imagine that a Kay's brand retailer is going to be the best option in Charlotte, the queen city.

why does everyone feel the overwhelming need to buy jewelry from mall stores? le sigh....

2/3/2007 8:35:59 AM

After you buy it, does it really matter that much where it came from, as long as you are happy with it?

2/3/2007 8:54:01 AM

no, as long as it didn't come from a mall store

because if you're happy with that shit, then god help you

2/3/2007 10:00:18 AM

Not to distract from the bickering, but you might want to try CMI Jewelry on Capital (north of 540 just past the Infiniti store). Great service and competitive prices. Call them first so they know you are coming, they have to buzz you in.

As far as what to get her, unless you are very aware of her tastes & preferences, you might want to either get her a really basic setting and tell her she can have it remounted with what she likes (CMI will help you out here), or if you are brave just give her a loose stone. My cousin is married to a jeweler and he was really nervous about getting her the right thing, so he did the loose stone thing. She was thrilled.

Good luck & hope to be congratulating you soon!

2/3/2007 10:21:33 AM

yep good advice - you can get really cheap (<$100) temporary settings from most reputable jewelers, or at least a very nice display box in which to put the loose diamond when you propose

just make sure she doesn't open it and drop the diamond off the romantic bridge you propsed to her on

[Edited on February 3, 2007 at 10:32 AM. Reason : s]

[Edited on February 3, 2007 at 10:32 AM. Reason : s]

2/3/2007 10:32:02 AM

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"you seem very very gay."

2/3/2007 10:34:49 AM

i don't consider "gay" to be perjorative - what now fucker

2/3/2007 10:36:42 AM

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"perjorative"

how about illiterate?

2/3/2007 10:43:01 AM

look i made another typo - "propsed" instead of "proposed"

wtf?! how could this beee

2/3/2007 10:44:21 AM

i didn't read through everything - but i back up everything qtpie said/says

2/3/2007 9:54:45 PM

I just wanted to come in here and give monkey kisses to Brad for picking out such a fantastic ring.

2/3/2007 10:09:46 PM

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"I can't imagine that a Kay's brand retailer is going to be the best option in Charlotte, the queen city."

There's a Tiffany's in South Park mall. Not saying its the best option, but yes ,there are other options out there. I personally chose a large chain Mall store because they had locations nationwide and I knew if we ended up moving I wouldn't have to worry about driving a ridiculous number of hours to get it inspected every 6 months or so.

Also, more than just the relationship aspect of it, once thats all said and done, the diamond/ring is an investment, and should be treated as one. If you are comfortable managing your own investments without the services that go with it, go for it (sounds like 8=======D's case). Myself, I know I don't have the time (or more correctly am willing to pay a premium for that time) to find such services, and would rather have it done and taken care of up-front without the future hassle.

2/4/2007 1:16:04 PM

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"sorry about your ring, honey its not even about materialism vs. love in this situation. A stunning diamond does not exclude true love, but the poor girl who was given a dud ring is limited to saying things like what you just said"

Some women don't care about the stone. Some don't even care about the ring.

2/4/2007 1:21:02 PM

don't need to worry about a ring when you don't wanna get married

2/4/2007 1:35:36 PM

haha i really like [user]8= = = = = =D[/user] 's posts in this thread. I can tell he's really slicing through most of the BS that the diamond industry puts out there. I really appreciate his abrasiveness, thats how I can tell the guy knows what he's talking about.

I also think QTPie sounds like a great salesman (or saleswoman whatever). Shes even patient with people who she has nothing to sell to (like 8 = = = = = D).


If you're in the market for an engagement ring I want you to think about something.

A lot of guys fall into the trap of thinking its "just a ring" or that its "a big fucking waste of money"

Well here's the thing. To a girl a ring is not a ring. A ring is a penis. Girls look at other girls rings and they think "wow thats a really big penis" kinda like guys look at porn and think "damn i wish i had one of those really big penises".

The main difference is that at least guys get to hide their inadequate penises in their pants and then strut around pretending they have a big one.

A girl cant hide her penis. She has to wear it ouside her pants on her wrist. She's not going to be happy about displaying a small penis for the rest of her life.


One other thing to think about is this. If a girl has a huge ring (or penis) then guys are 100x less likely to hit on them. Guys are intimidated by girls with big penises (we're talking about rings here still) and they dont hit on them. Giving a girl a big ring (esp. if you dont have a big penis yourself) is a great way to keep her from slutting it up.

2/4/2007 2:00:01 PM

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"Giving a girl a big ring (esp. if you dont have a big penis yourself) is a great way to keep her from slutting it up"

Haha. Good luck with that.

2/4/2007 2:05:05 PM

The size or quality or whatever didn't matter to me.
What mattered was that Jeff took the time to find out my taste and what I really wanted in a ring I'll wear everyday for the rest of my life...
I couldn't have asked for anything better and it was <$3,000

2/4/2007 3:32:13 PM

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"the diamond/ring is an investment"

wrong, wrong, and wrong.

2/4/2007 9:59:34 PM

I'm glad I'm not yet at the point of proposing but I think many people just forget what the ring is all about.

Who is the person you love. What would SHE want. This isn't about how much it costs or what it looks like as far as you are concerned. The wonderful woman I'm dating now would be pissed off if I got her a huge rock. That's just not her. I seriously doubt she would wear it since she works in streams and chem labs most of the time.

The ring should embody your love and her dream of a beautiful ring. Take that approach and listen to QTPIE and you'll be okay.

2/5/2007 7:40:16 AM

^^
Explain plz.

2/5/2007 7:56:26 AM

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"I really appreciate his abrasiveness, thats how I can tell the guy knows what he's talking about. "

to tell you the truth, that makes it sound like he really doesn't know what he's talking about. people with that "shut up, listen to me, im right, you're wrong" attitude usually are just trying to make up for the lack of something else (usually indepth information). he really hasn't said anything that you can't find out in about 10 minutes of google research.

you can tell that QTPie has dealt with people like him before....you can't try to talk with them...you just nod your head and say "whatever you say" and hope they go away.

[Edited on February 5, 2007 at 9:11 AM. Reason : d]

[Edited on February 5, 2007 at 9:13 AM. Reason : d]

2/5/2007 9:11:00 AM

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"Girls look at other girls rings and they think "wow thats a really big penis" "

I didn't notice other peoples' rings until I had one of my own. In fact, I didn't give a damn about anyone else's ring. I knew nothing about diamonds or settings or cuts or any of that other crap. All I knew was I liked square stones better than round ones.

The best advice I could give is take your time with picking it out. There are TONS of options out there. And if you are worried that she's going to be really picky, then don't go to Zales. I can spot a Zales ring from a hundred miles away, and I hate them all.

Btw, mine is from Blue Nile, and I love it.

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"The ring should embody your love and her dream of a beautiful ring. "

I know you...and this makes me laugh.

commence the flaming

[Edited on February 5, 2007 at 9:35 AM. Reason : just had to say]

2/5/2007 9:30:24 AM

The size/price of a ring shouldn't matter...unless you're a cheapss bastard like my ex-roomate. He tried to get his girl a pawn shop ring. Then went to the mall and got her a $600 POS (You can actually see a shadow in the stone) and then bought himself a new car a few weeks later.

Just weak. Just make sure it looks nice, you tried your best, and that you put some thought into it.

2/5/2007 9:42:29 AM

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"My set was over $5000 LESS than the appraised value. "

i dont mean to burst you bubble, but rings are often appraised at as much as double what you paid for it. i dont really think its a good thing since it just makes your insurance cost more.

[Edited on February 5, 2007 at 9:46 AM. Reason : d]

2/5/2007 9:45:14 AM

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"Just make sure it looks nice, you tried your best, and that you put some thought into it."

winner

2/5/2007 9:47:32 AM

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"he really hasn't said anything that you can't find out in about 10 minutes of google research."

i'll freely admit that, and in fact its one of the reasons i'm not too patient with this crowd.

2/5/2007 9:50:44 AM

whatever you say!

2/5/2007 9:53:09 AM

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"One other thing to think about is this. If a girl has a huge ring (or penis) then guys are 100x less likely to hit on them. Guys are intimidated by girls with big penises (we're talking about rings here still) and they dont hit on them. Giving a girl a big ring (esp. if you dont have a big penis yourself) is a great way to keep her from slutting it up."

Actually a big rock tells me she's already got a man who buys her stuff.

The only thing she wants from me is fun.

2/5/2007 10:05:03 AM

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"The wonderful woman I'm dating now would be pissed off if I got her a huge rock"

No she wouldn't, she just tells you she would

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"Just make sure it looks nice, you tried your best, and that you put some thought into it."

See, that works for a christmas present, but not something on this scale. You need to research a ton, and hit up her sister/mom/best friend/etc to get an idea what she wants (cause if she's as serious about you as you are her, then she's probably already talked wedding/engagement/marriage stuff to them 100x plus) and go with it.

"you tried your best" sounds like "well, I didn't put a lot of thought in it, and instead of trying to find out what you'd want i just went with this. So hopefully you'll like this one"

just my 0.02

2/5/2007 11:25:51 AM

anybody got anything to say about tiffany's?

2/5/2007 11:47:09 AM

expensive - you can get a custom jeweler to replicate one for cheaper - unless you are pretentious enough to care about the name

2/5/2007 11:47:57 AM

i agree with omarbadu

2/5/2007 11:51:41 AM

My fiance loved the ring that I got her


However she would have been just as happy with a ring that cost 20 bucks. Her parents however like the ring and it shows to them that we're serious about the whole thing...so the ring is also for the parents

2/5/2007 11:57:52 AM

^^^^

On another note, my boyfriend loves eBay... but I really hope my ring doesn't come from there *crosses fingers*... I think he knows better

[Edited on February 5, 2007 at 3:27 PM. Reason : s]

2/5/2007 3:27:04 PM

What's wrong w/ Ebay?

2/5/2007 3:35:11 PM

i mean, you're speculating on why i'm pissed off when you have people on here talking about how the engagment ring diamond is an "investment"

hmmmm


[Edited on February 5, 2007 at 5:32 PM. Reason : s]

2/5/2007 5:32:04 PM

^
And you have yet to explain your point of view in detail. Quit trolling and let this thread get back on track or provide some insight.

2/5/2007 6:50:36 PM

ok, what are you going to buy as an investment diamond? IF clarity, D color? good luck selling that

profit margins are incredibly small on diamonds at the retail level so good luck undercutting those prices (which you will have to do, since you're selling it independently)

"investment" generally means appreciating saleable value.

[Edited on February 5, 2007 at 6:58 PM. Reason : s]

2/5/2007 6:58:04 PM

^
Semantics difference/misunderstanding. I agree with your points. I was referring to a diamond ring as a long-term sentimental investment, not a long-term financial investment.

Anyways, QwertyRox, any further thoughts at this point?

2/5/2007 7:07:39 PM