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"The coffee was over 212F because it's under some amount of pressure"

Maybe when it was in the in pot but not when it spilled on her. unless they used some super air-tight cup lid and pressurized the cup before they handed it to her.

[Edited on May 4, 2007 at 10:09 PM. Reason : dsfgs]

5/4/2007 10:09:11 PM

that was the dumbest answer ever... rabble rabble rabble... we are all dumber for having listened to this guy's arguement and may God have mercy on his soul.

good ole Billy M.

i hope this idiot gets ex communicated from society for this

[Edited on May 5, 2007 at 12:53 AM. Reason : ]

5/5/2007 12:42:24 AM

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"Dear Judge Butler and Commissioners Rigsby, Levine and Wilner: On behalf of the American Tort Reform Association, which works to combat lawsuit abuse, I urge you to carefully reconsider the reappointment of Administrative Law Judge Roy Pearson Jr. to a 10-year term, scheduled to commence in three days on May 2. As you are almost surely aware by now, thanks to extensive local and national media coverage, Judge Pearson has chosen to exploit the District’s well-intentioned but loosely worded Consumer Protection and Procedures Act in suing a family-owned D.C. dry cleaner for more than $65 million — over a lost pair of suit pants. Though the pants have long since been found and made available to him, Judge Pearson has stubbornly continued to waste precious Superior Court resources in a clearly misguided effort to extort a hardworking family that provides a service to its community and tax revenue to the District government. In a letter to the editor in today’s Washington Post, former National Labors Relations Board chief administrative law judge Melvin Welles urged “any bar to which Mr. Pearson belongs to immediately disbar him and the District to remove him from his position as an administrative law judge.” To those of us who carefully study the litigation industry’s growing abuse of consumer protection laws around the country (see ATRA general counsel Victor Schwartz’s recent article from Executive Counsel magazine, “Consumer Protection Acts Are a Springboard for Lawsuit Abuse,” enclosed) and to everyday D.C. taxpayers who collectively provide Pearson with a considerable salary, his persistence in this lawsuit raises serious question about his capacity to serve the city as a “fair, impartial, effective, and efficient” judge, as required by the Office of Administrative Hearings Establishment Act. If Pearson goes ahead with his lawsuit, any party who comes before him in future administrative hearings could understandably lack confidence in his judgment and judicial temperament. Furthermore, this case will become fodder for late-night comics, various members of Congress and other assorted critics of D.C. government if this case, scheduled for trial June 11, remains in the headlines. Judicial temperament is a critical characteristic of an outstanding jurist. Any individual who chooses to pursue a case such as Pearson’s, at a minimum, calls into question his or her’s. As you consider his reappointment, we strongly urge you to examine closely his judicial temperament and decide whether it is sufficient to serve the people of the District of Columbia properly as an administrative law judge. "

I'd imagine the Chungs are going to get some free legal aid soon

5/5/2007 1:30:21 AM

^so according to that his reappointment for a 10 year term came up 3 days ago, anyone know what happend?

5/5/2007 5:39:10 PM

The people who constantly whine about the McDonald's case just don't know the facts.

http://www.centerjd.org/free/mythbusters-free/MB_mcdonalds.htm

Enjoy...

5/5/2007 8:07:53 PM

^ i read it, and i still think it is bullshit:

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"By corporate specifications, McDonald's sells its coffee at 180 to 190 degrees Fahrenheit; Coffee at that temperature, if spilled, causes third-degree burns (the skin is burned away down to the muscle/fatty-tissue layer) in two to seven seconds; "

i don't see what the problem with that is.

OMFG WHEN I MAKE TEA/COFFEE AT HOME, IT IS AT 212 F

here is the problem though:

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"After the car stopped, she tried to hold the cup securely between her knees while removing the lid. However, the cup tipped over, pouring scalding hot coffee onto her."

that's just fucking stupid and irresponsible, esp considering this:

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"Stella Liebeck, 79 years old"

WHEN YOU ARE FUCKING 79 YEARS OLD, YOU DON'T FUCKING PULL STUNTS LIKE THAT. you sit down somewhere safe, comfortable, and stationary, with a TABLE/PLATFORM, and then you drink your coffee.

all it comes down to is personal responsibilty.

OMF THEIR COFFEE IS MADE WITH NEARLY BOILING WATER!!!

Yeah, so?

5/5/2007 8:16:14 PM

yeah, McDs things is bullshit. She is the one who decided to hold it between her fucking legs.

5/5/2007 8:24:07 PM

The old lady offered to settle for her medical expenses and was turned down by McDees. The lawyer explained McDees inexplicable decision to continue to hold their coffee at temperatures which would certainly cause harm. The jury was entitled to award punitive damages to punish McDees and they decided, after hearing all the evidence, to make a sizable award.

Remember, she only sued for medical expenses, nothing more. McDees' attitude resulted in the large punitive award...

5/5/2007 8:33:40 PM

^ I still don't get it.

So does that mean I can sue for medical expenses after injuring myself with a knife that's ahrper than the others out there, or an iron that gets hotter than the others out there?

NO, because knives are known to be sharp, and irons are known to get hot, since time immemorial. I mean, that's what those thing do/are. An unsharp knife is not a knife, and an unhot iron is not an iron.

Similarly, coffee/tea are known to be made with boiling water, since the dawn of civilization.

5/5/2007 8:49:04 PM

i think the point was that it MAY be reasonable to assume that something you are going to drink won't give you 3rd degree burns in potentially 2 seconds. ive spilt coffee on myself before and not had a problem, but getting it pretty much straight from the kettle in a cup that preserves temperature might lead one to believe it has cooled down long before it actually has.

5/5/2007 8:53:03 PM

Third degree references the type of burn. THe degrees refer to the depth of the burn itself. First would be epidermis, second would be down to the dermis, third would be destruction of the skin itself with possible/probable underlying tissue damage. So a third degree burn does not necessarily mean its a total loss of tissue to the bone.

Bottom line is SHE spilled it on herself. Its amazing that something so dangerous out there, that millions of people were somehow able to avoid her outcome with using what some term to be commmon sense.

5/5/2007 10:47:20 PM

mcd's is at fault because they have a clown for a mascot

5/5/2007 10:49:35 PM

this isnt even logical. how does someone get away with this? If i was the judge in this case id tell mr "i like blue and red pistripes" to go fuck himself and then laugh in his face

5/6/2007 11:25:42 AM

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"i think the point was that it MAY be reasonable to assume that something you are going to drink won't give you 3rd degree burns in potentially 2 seconds. "

But it's not reasonable as it's clearly possible to get third degree burns quite easily from hot water. Hot liquids burn and burn severely, anyone expecting otherwise is a fool who deserves what they have coming to them.

Furthermore, if you think about the case, you have 1 of 2 possible scenarios. Either A) she's a regular at that McDonalds and has ordered coffee before or B) she was new to that McDonalds.

If A she's an idiot because she should know how hot they serve their coffee as she's been there before

and if B, she's an idiot because she ordered a hot beverage and stuck it between her legs without knowing how hot McDonalds serves their coffee.

5/6/2007 12:21:09 PM

It's a tragic situation. And without litigation, no company would ever eliminate hazardous practices, so such lawsuits have their place. Was it her fault that she spilled the coffee? Of course. Early factory workers were also technically at fault when they lost their fingers in the machinery, but the company ultimately was forced to bear some responsibility as well for preventing the dangerous situation in the first place.

The fact that it took millions of dollars of settlement for McD's to change their practices can be blamed on the lawyers, and is another tragic situation.

5/6/2007 2:36:09 PM

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"Was it her fault that she spilled the coffee? Of course. Early factory workers were also technically at fault when they lost their fingers in the machinery, but the company ultimately was forced to bear some responsibility as well for preventing the dangerous situation in the first place."

Unlike the factory workers, this old lady was not forced by any contract with McDonalds to:

1) Purchase the coffee
2) Place it between her legs
3) Attempt to open the cup of coffee
4) Do all of this while in her car.

It's not tragedy, it's grade A stupidity at it's finest.

5/6/2007 2:45:05 PM

why compare this to the mcdonalds case? That guy is an asshole, I am amazed they offered him 3,000 for his trouble......he should have taken that and run! Hope he loses his job.

The McDonalds case is so different than what most people believe, the person was found to be at fault something like 25% and they charged McDonalds the amount they make in one day of coffee sales nationally, just so they would be forced to makea change. In the case of a small, single family owned business that didnt cause any damage, later found the pants and then offered to pay for his trouble. What an asshole to push it past that, abusing the laws that he was supposed to be working against.

[Edited on May 6, 2007 at 2:51 PM. Reason : .]

5/6/2007 2:48:17 PM

i wouldn't be surprised if his lawyer friends are egging him on to see how much he can drag this out.

5/6/2007 3:18:58 PM

what happened with this?

just read a small update in a paper the other day.

he has reduced his demand from 65 million to something like 54 million.

why is he still alive?

6/10/2007 6:19:41 PM

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6/10/2007 6:50:15 PM

wow 65 down to 54, what a deal

6/10/2007 7:14:13 PM

yup i was right:

http://www.itv.com/news/world_ca397102fceaa84984da52b6fde0b766.html

6/10/2007 7:20:54 PM

no coffee shop sells their coffee at 190 F. thats ridiculously hot. you cant even fucking drink that.

and the Honorable Judge Pearson needs to be taken out back and beat with a 2 x 4

6/11/2007 1:21:16 AM

this guy's goin to hell.

6/11/2007 7:50:54 AM

What do you mean you don't have any ice? You mean I have to drink this coffee hot?

6/11/2007 1:43:51 PM

i hope the chinese triad caps that old fuck. If I saw this guy in the street i think i would stop and piss onto his suit pants.

Of course i would probably get sued for $20 million

$5000 for expensive suit pants
$1000 for a stretch limo to get him quickly back to his home to switch clothes
$500 for "renting" a car get to a upscale tailor for new pants
$10000 for his "time" involved having to pick out a new pair of pants
$19.9 million for pain, suffering, and embarrassment for being peed on

6/11/2007 2:00:40 PM

But that only adds up to $19,916,500.

[Edited on June 11, 2007 at 2:54 PM. Reason : ]

6/11/2007 2:53:34 PM

pwnt

6/11/2007 6:24:29 PM

That fucker who sued for the $54 million lost today




[Edited on June 25, 2007 at 12:22 PM. Reason : piece of shit]

6/25/2007 12:19:57 PM

fucker should die.

BTW, who is it ^ the nagger or the redneck?

6/25/2007 12:36:10 PM

Not only that, but he had to pay the legal bills for the defense team.

6/25/2007 12:37:44 PM

lol i hope its the black guy

6/25/2007 12:50:09 PM

It is the black guy. The white dude is a reporter.

6/25/2007 12:51:14 PM

Caption for the picture:

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"Administrative law judge Roy Pearson, left, is questioned by a member of the media as he leaves court after the second day of his lawsuit in Washington in this Wednesday, June 13, 2007 file photo."

So yes, it's the black dude.

6/25/2007 12:52:35 PM

lol

6/25/2007 12:55:36 PM

fucker should go back to where his ancestors came from, and then he will know the true value of hard work.

ass was trying to bring down some honest hard-working immigrants.

6/25/2007 12:55:46 PM

I hope they disbar that asshat.

6/25/2007 12:58:18 PM

Yep, that white guy in the picture is from Inside Edition.

6/25/2007 1:08:51 PM

he looks like the New Orleans beer looter just a little younger and with a law degree

same retarded ass mentality though

6/25/2007 1:08:52 PM

He is expected to appeal.

6/25/2007 1:33:40 PM

when i read that the cleaners won the case i was glad

6/25/2007 1:51:59 PM

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"He is expected to appeal."

OMG what a fuckin' moron! I hop he gets disbarred too!

6/25/2007 1:56:25 PM

let him appeal, someone report back to tww when he loses again so we can have some more lulz

[Edited on June 25, 2007 at 2:18 PM. Reason : .]

6/25/2007 2:18:04 PM

Cases like this should be thrown out of court. Today everyone wants to sue for stupid reasons.

6/25/2007 2:21:54 PM

Man, that judge sure was trying to take them to the cleaner's, eh?

6/25/2007 2:27:55 PM

zing

6/25/2007 2:29:57 PM

[Edited on June 26, 2007 at 1:45 AM. Reason : ]

6/26/2007 1:44:22 AM

everything makes sense now. he was black

6/26/2007 3:26:21 AM

^haha, I was thinking the same thing. Only a black guy would think he was entitled to any kind of money for the inconvenience of losing his pants. Like because he has a job and can afford the pants he's somehow above everyone and needs this ungodly compensation for them being lost.

I hope they take away all his pants and send him to the 9th ward

6/26/2007 10:28:05 PM

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"everything makes sense now. he was black"

and it all makes sense too. you're a fucking bigot.

6/28/2007 12:11:18 AM