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"[U]nlike others in check-off-the-boxes curricula, I can build virtually any concentration that I choose."


^ You can read, right? Currently, I assist in teaching at State, and my concentration is in English and adult education. You really should try to think outside the box sometime.

PS: You must be stupid or something. Again, I question your reading ability. One is required to take only three MALS seminars before pursuing just about any concentration one can create. I realize that you probably have difficulty comprehending anything beyond a rote curriculum.

[Edited on May 12, 2007 at 12:44 PM. Reason : .]

5/12/2007 12:36:45 PM

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You: "It's just like an English degree and an Education degree, only I was able to take only the courses I liked, I didn't earn any teaching certifications, and I didn't have to write a thesis."

Employer: "uh, interesting..."


So anyways, are you going to actually address the last couple of points I made?

[Edited on May 12, 2007 at 12:51 PM. Reason : .]

5/12/2007 12:41:45 PM

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^ Effective communication is a part of "marketability." And, unlike you, I can communicate effectively enough to know that commas should be placed INSIDE closing quotation marks.

I recommend that you take a remedial reading course. The program really is "non-thesis" in name only--and a defense is required, too:

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"The final part of the program is the culminating project, usually a synthetic essay on a topic related to the student's concentration, though the final project can take a diversity of forms. Three hours of credit will be given for completing this project. A final comprehensive oral examination will be given."


http://www.chass.ncsu.edu/ids/mals/requirements.html

PS: You take the cake in supreme idiocy! WOW! Currently, I am in TWO teaching certificate programs at State--Certificate of Accomplishment in Teaching and Instructional Technology Assistant Program:

http://www.ncsu.edu/fctl/Programs/Certificate_of_Accomplishment_in_Teaching/

http://delta.ncsu.edu/learn/certificate_programs/itap/

PWNT.

No, I'm not going to address anymore of your points--ever. You're a total fucking dick.




[Edited on May 12, 2007 at 1:13 PM. Reason : .]

5/12/2007 12:55:04 PM

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Ah-hah, so it's like a thesis, only not.

Just like your program is like a worthwhile degree, only not.


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"PS: You take the cake for supreme idiocy! WOW! Currently, I am in TWO teaching certificate programs at State--Certificate of Accomplishment in Teaching and Instructional Technology Assistant Program:

http://www.ncsu.edu/fctl/Programs/Certificate_of_Accomplishment_in_Teaching/

http://delta.ncsu.edu/learn/certificate_programs/itap/

PWNT.

No, I'm not going to address anymore of your "points"--ever. You're a total fucking dick."


Dude, I mean like a NC teaching license, not some bullshit "Congratulations on TA'ing for us, sucker!" program.

Oh, and do you think that tech "certification" will hold any water? Why don't you just get a real, nationally recognized certification?

Again... they're like real certifications, only not.

[Edited on May 12, 2007 at 1:18 PM. Reason : .]

5/12/2007 12:57:56 PM

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"Effective communication is a part of "marketability." And, unlike you, I can communicate effectively enough to know that commas should be placed INSIDE closing quotation marks."


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"No, I'm not going to address anymore of your points--ever. You're a total fucking dick. "

In this sentence, "anymore" should be two words.

5/12/2007 2:09:15 PM

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^ Correct. I know it's hard to believe, but even I am fallible. And unlike some here, I will admit being wrong.

PS: And at least I know the correct usage of the words at issue; I was simply in a hurry. Many here never bothered to learn correct usage and they don't care--but they act as if they know everything. This is a big part of their problem.





[Edited on May 14, 2007 at 11:56 PM. Reason : .]

5/14/2007 11:33:27 PM

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" If you had ever bothered to check Study Hall, you would know that I'm a TA, which means that I'm also a grad student."


Huh? Nothing here screams TA: http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_search.aspx?type=posts§ion=7&searchstring=&username=hooksaw&usertype=match&sortby=date&sortorder=descending&page=


And, you don't have to be a grad student to be a TA.

5/15/2007 12:48:24 AM

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^

2. Eligibility

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"In order to be eligible for graduate assistantships and fellowships, students must be admitted into the Graduate School in full graduate standing and be enrolled in the fall and spring semesters. Students must also be in good academic standing (with a 3.00 grade point average or higher), unless granted an exception by the Graduate School. It is the responsibility of the student to consult the Director of Graduate Programs (DGP) for information on specific eligibility requirements."


http://www.ncsu.edu/policies/academic_affairs/scholarships_financial_aid/REG02.70.1.php

And for the last time: I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHAT YOU STUPID FUCKING IDIOTS THINK ABOUT MY OCCUPATION! The burden is on YOU to prove I am anything other than what I have said I am--and that is something you have yet to do and is something you can never do. So, in summary--these nuts, motherfuckers.

5/15/2007 1:09:26 AM

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Calm down, i wasn't disputing whether you were a TA (why has this even brought up? no one really cares if you are a TA, it's not relevant in any way), I was pointing out that your posting record in Study Hall in no way confirms you're a TA.

And i'm not sure what the quoted text you posted is suppose to prove. It doesn't say you have to be a grad student to be a TA, only to be a "Graduate TA" which should be self evident. I personally know for a 100% certainty that you don't have to be a grad student to be a TA.

The person I know was in Physics, but CALS has the same thing, and probably other depts. as well:
http://www.cals.ncsu.edu/an_sci/home/newsletter/apr02.htm#assistants

5/15/2007 1:26:34 AM

hooksaw
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^ Those students are TAs in name only. Nonetheless, their experience is meaningful, it matters, and they can list the job title on their resumes. I never said that one had to be a grad student to be a TA--but the overwhelming majority are.

The TA questioning bullshit was started by joe_shithead--and it got nibbled around the edges by you and others:

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"I for one, do not believe that Hooksaw is

(1) 40 years old

(2) a grad student at state

(3) a TA in CHASS.

...

not a single person here knows who he really is or what he looks like"


Some here have met me--and they know that I'm exactly what I've said I am. But I'll be damned if I'm going to ask any of them to post in a given thread some type of proof for shitheads--who will inevitably question that proof anyway.

5/15/2007 1:41:39 AM

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I hate to keep picking on this issue, but it's this same type of subtle dishonesty that has come to characterize politicians in general, and especially the Bush administration, but you said this:
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you would know that I'm a TA, which means that I'm also a grad student."

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"hooksaw:
I never said that one had to be a grad student to be a TA--but the overwhelming majority are."


Which directly implies that you believed that all TAs are grad students. You didn't say "probably" or "very likely" or anything that would make the absolute statement not absolute.

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"hooksaw: And unlike some here, I will admit being wrong."


So, what will it be?

5/15/2007 1:46:35 AM

hooksaw
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^ Man, fuck off, k? Seriously--FUCK OFF. There is no "subtle dishonesty" on my part. There seems to be some not-so-subtle stupidity on your part, though.

Someone questioned my age, my status as a grad student, and my position as a TA. Regardless of the requirements to be a TA, I have been a TA for over a year at North Carolina State University--and anyone that denies this fact or won't acknowledge this fact is being blatantly dishonest with himself or herself and others here.

I never posted that one had to be a grad student to be a TA. I did post, however, that the "overwhelming majority" are. I now put it to you: Prove that most TAs are undergrads and prove that I am anything other than what I've said I am. In any event, I will not address this ridiculousness further.

PS: I often think that some here are simply trolling for information--for who knows what purpose. Or maybe they’re just trolling.

5/15/2007 2:02:32 AM

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"I never posted that one had to be a grad student to be a TA."

right...
http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=476887&page=1#10356687 :
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" you would know that I'm a TA, which means that I'm also a grad student. "


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" There is no "subtle dishonesty" on my part. "


You're right. It's now just blatant dishonesty (either that or you're delusional, which is actually more in-line with the rest of your posts, and neo-conservatism in general).

5/15/2007 2:12:56 AM

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5/15/2007 2:14:57 AM

moron
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So are you going to admit you made a mistake, or relish in your failure to perceive reality?

5/15/2007 2:25:15 AM

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last page before the trolling, Boone made the following sarcastic comment,

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i no rite

People should be able to say whatever they want at their job, and their employers should have no say over it.
"


In a private-sector job I could see prohibiting folks political speech. However, this is a government job and I thought that the government was generally forbidden from prohibiting free speech. I know that free speech is not universal, but I don't think this guy has really done anything so controversial it suggests firing him. Certainly professors at many universities require students to sit in their classrooms and reguritate even more offensive materials and yet they are not fired. This was
just an email, if you don't like then don't read it.

It seems that "free speech" means everything except what it was primarily intended to mean. You can do any number of obscene things and its deemed "speech" or "free expression" yet we have
laws against the free organization for political issues (Mcain Feingold etc..).

[Edited on May 15, 2007 at 10:19 AM. Reason : .]

5/15/2007 10:18:23 AM

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" but I don't think this guy has really done anything so controversial it suggests firing him. "


Well, apparently, the people he works with don't think the same way as you do. They do feel that he did something worth firing him for.

5/15/2007 12:25:33 PM

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Dude, the guy was using official time and server capacity to send crap about Mexicans.

I fail to see how this is a freedom of speech issue except for those who want to sling mud at institutes of higher learning.


PS-- What's really funny about this page is that hooksaw seems incredibly proud of being a TA at age 40.

5/16/2007 7:50:08 PM

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but its OK to use gov't time and server capacity to send out messages about bananas and women's history? got it

5/16/2007 8:09:46 PM

moron
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^ So racial invective is in the same league as dietary information and history? got it

5/16/2007 8:17:49 PM

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^ That's an issue hooksaw still hasn't addressed.

Not to mention the fact that those examples were drawn from all faculty at the college-- for all we know they were each done by separate individuals, whereas this professor seems to have a history of doing this sort of thing.

5/16/2007 8:22:44 PM

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^ OMFG! Obviously, you're totally fucking obsessed with me. FYI, I hold an undergraduate degree in business administration, which is more in demand than a history degree, douchebag.

I could do and have done many jobs, but I chose to pursue an advanced degree and I chose to be a TA--and I am proud of both choices. Which college are you attending for your graduate degree again?

Try to stick to the topic, dick, k?

PS: I haven't seen any of you moonbats post the supposedly offensive document in question about Mexicans. You don't know what the guy sent--you've done nothing more than allude to "crap about Mexicans" and "racial invective." Where’s the evidence?

[Edited on May 16, 2007 at 11:01 PM. Reason : .]

5/16/2007 10:51:33 PM

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^
According to the second link that YOU posted...

http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/daily/local/50919.php
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" Glendale Community College administrators said his postings were abrasive and divisive, but said they could do little to prevent professors from expressing their views outside class.
"


It's not our "moonbat" assertions that the content he posted was offensive, it's the opinion of the administrators that worked with him, according to the AP (they could be blatantly lying, like you have a tendency to do, but at this point in time, I have no reason to believe that).

At this point, the discussion, if you've been following along (which still doesn't mean that you'll comprehend it), is whether a person can be fired from their job for being offensive to other people at their job, and if my workplace is any example, they can be.

5/17/2007 12:01:51 AM

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hooksaw may be a graduate student TA, but he types like a 13-year-old girl on AOL.

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"Boone-tard!"


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"^ OMFG! Obviously, you're totally fucking obsessed with me."


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"^ Man, fuck off, k? Seriously--FUCK OFF"



:roll: !!!111!1

5/17/2007 8:06:27 AM

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I'm sure the servers were just bogged down with the several emails he sent, oh the horror...

5/17/2007 8:58:36 AM

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"So racial invective is in the same league as dietary information and history? got it"

If you consider Washington's Thanskgiving Address as "racial invective," then I think we have a problem. People got pissed off because, as I understand it, he provided a link to the text of the address, and it was hosted on Pat Buchanan's website. OH THE HORROR!!! BURN HIM!!!

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"It's not our "moonbat" assertions that the content he posted was offensive, it's the opinion of the administrators that worked with him, according to the AP (they could be blatantly lying, like you have a tendency to do, but at this point in time, I have no reason to believe that)."

And their opinion is incredibly suspect, given the reported contents of that email. And I think that is what this whole thread is about, sans the insulting a 40-year-old TA like the children you are

[Edited on May 17, 2007 at 10:01 AM. Reason : ]

5/17/2007 10:00:50 AM

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He sent anti-mexican/immigrant stuff out, too.

And it's pretty funny that you're accusing us of acting like a child. Need I quote him a little so I can provide you with a sample of his maturity?

5/17/2007 8:06:06 PM

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"I haven't seen any of you moonbats post the supposedly offensive document in question about Mexicans. You don't know what the guy sent--you've done nothing more than allude to 'crap about Mexicans' and 'racial invective.' Where’s the evidence?"


And concerning the laughable post by MsGreen, you're obviously too stupid to grasp the concept of satire.

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5/17/2007 9:03:05 PM

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"If you consider Washington's Thanskgiving Address as "racial invective," then I think we have a problem. People got pissed off because, as I understand it, he provided a link to the text of the address, and it was hosted on Pat Buchanan's website. OH THE HORROR!!! BURN HIM!!!
"


Have you been reading this thread? The same professor allegedly sent out negative emails about hispanics:
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" "In 2003, Kehowski e-mailed employees several Internet links that contained statements about Hispanics.
The titles on the Web sites included, "Mexicans Think U.S. Belongs to Them!" and "Mexican Double Standard.""


The link to Pat Robertson was apparently the last straw. It would be ridiculous for him to get fired if all he did was link to George Washington's proclamation, but that doesn't seem to be the full story. The exact emails he sent may or may not be available, but this is really too dumb of an issue for me to really worry about, so i'm going to leave it up to someone else to prove the AP report wrong on his emails not being abrasive or divisive. With what's been posted in this thread, there's no information to suggest this guy wasn't kind of a prick, so it's not on me or other on my side to go digging through for evidence, it's the opposite in fact.

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"And their opinion is incredibly suspect, given the reported contents of that email. "


Umm... no. Their opinion is suspect because you shouldn't trust anything you don't know first hand, but not because of anything posted in this thread. If you have more information, by all means, post it.

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"And I think that is what this whole thread is about, sans the insulting a 40-year-old TA like the children you are"


Ha, are you being sarcastic here? I don't know if this is directed at me, but i'm not really insulting him, and hooksaw is doing at least as much insulting as anyone else. So I guess he would be acting like a child too?

5/17/2007 9:15:02 PM

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ahhh, so it's only OK to post emails that are pro-immigration. if you are anti-immigration, fuck you, right?

AND, if the earlier emails were sooooooooooooooooooooo bad, why not fire him THEN? why wait until this harmless email? seems to me that the "straw" should have been the emails that were actually bad.

5/17/2007 10:37:15 PM

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^^ Un-fucking-believable!

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". . .there's no information to suggest this guy wasn't kind of a prick. . . ."


moron

Argumentum ad ignorantiam much? Your glaring appeal-to-ignorance logical fallacy assumes that your argument is valid simply because no evidence has been presented to the contrary. Using your flawed logic as a model, moron, I demand that you be "fired" from TWW--because there's no information to suggest that YOU aren't kind of a prick.

My studies have helped me develop the critical-thinking skills to recognize bullshit when I see it. Perhaps you and some others here should look into the program. Better luck next time.

PWNT.

5/18/2007 1:48:32 AM

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5/18/2007 3:09:30 AM

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6/9/2007 2:14:01 AM

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6/9/2007 2:33:36 AM

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deja vu

6/9/2007 11:52:43 PM

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^^^^^ Haha, I wish I had seen that a month ago.

You clearly don't fully understand what argumentum ad ignoratum fully encompasses.

And you can't assert that you have critical thinking skills; that's not something ANYONE here would accuse you of. Further, regurgitating a definition that you think you understand is not a critical thinking skill, it's regurgitation. If you had critical thinking skills, you'd actually make arguments to support your position, instead of making half-assed posts, declare an pwnt (an implicit rule of pwnt is that you can't self-declare), then post a roll-eyes.

6/10/2007 12:09:27 AM

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"hooksaw: PS: And at least I know the correct usage of the words at issue; I was simply in a hurry. Many here never
bothered to learn correct usage and they don't care--but they act as if they know everything. This is a big part of
their problem."


AHAHAH

Yeah, that's right. A big part of the problem is people not wiling to admit improper grammar.



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"hooksaw: ^ Effective communication is a part of "marketability." And, unlike you, I can communicate effectively enough to know that commas should be placed INSIDE closing quotation marks."


Again...AHAHAH

Whether or not the quotuation mark is outside the punctuation is KEY to communication...except not at all...

Another annoying for your ass....

6/10/2007 2:42:04 AM

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^^ So, let me get this straight: You are a scientist, a political expert, a computer expert, and an expert on logical fallacies? Wow, you really are a Renaissance man--please shut the fuck up.

^ You can piss right off, m'kay?

6/11/2007 12:00:44 AM

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^ A retard could have seen that one, but being an expert does help

6/11/2007 12:25:01 AM

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^ You're an expert on "scienc-y things," am I right?

6/11/2007 12:22:22 PM

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