I could see ATL moving up. They already have Marvin W. and Sheldon W. at the 4. They wouldn't take Wright at 3. If they packaged the #3 and one of their young players for #1, I could see POR taking that. Of course they could move down as well.

5/22/2007 9:01:20 PM

If they're smart, it'll be Mike Conley Jr.

Has to be.

5/22/2007 9:03:15 PM

i would love to see conley in a hawks jersey and it has to be him

5/22/2007 9:04:44 PM

Bill Simmons is rolling in his grave

Bill Walton is loling in his.

5/22/2007 9:05:04 PM

Quote :

"If they packaged the #3 and one of their young players for #1, I could see POR taking that."

no fucking way

stupid fucking idiot

5/22/2007 9:06:36 PM

with conley, the hawks will be looking nice...young as a college team...but a bright future

5/22/2007 9:10:17 PM

It's Greg Oden people. It's like drafting Jesus himself. It'll take all your #1's for the next 10 years to get the top spot.

5/22/2007 9:12:08 PM

i could also see atl taking that 7 ft chineese guy at the #3 pick.

Since they got the 11 pick from Indy, does that one go to Phoenix since ATL got a pick in the top 3?

5/22/2007 9:19:24 PM

If I'm the Bobcats, I package your two #1's and move up to get Brewer.

Felton
Brewer
Wallace
RASHARD FUCKING LEWIS (big assumption, yes)
Okafor

That lineup would run people out of the gym. Throw in Carroll and Fabio for 3's, and the bobcats are in the playoffs.

5/22/2007 9:19:32 PM

Quote :

" Since they got the 11 pick from Indy, does that one go to Phoenix since ATL got a pick in the top 3?"

no


I think the hawks pick next year is unprotected and goes to PHX no matter what

5/22/2007 9:20:50 PM

doesn't wallace want out of char or do they just not have the money he is gonna want?

5/22/2007 9:30:14 PM

they got plenty of money

he's just gonna want a near-max deal and they probably won't give it to him

5/22/2007 9:33:14 PM

Bobcats have most salary cap space in the league if im not mistaken, and I think I have also read that Wallace is partial to Charlotte because they saved him from Sacramento's bench, and gave him a chance to show his potential.

5/22/2007 9:34:04 PM

Quote :

"Bill Simmons is rolling in his grave"

He's not dead but I know what you mean. Thats the first thing I thought of when they pulled out their logo. Looks like travelling to Boston to watch the lottery turned out to not be a good karma afterall.

[Edited on May 22, 2007 at 9:38 PM. Reason : hvbu]

5/22/2007 9:36:02 PM

Quote :

"Bill Simmons is rolling in his grave"

His next Page 2 column will be hilarious. All year he talked about how intentional the Celtics' tanking for Oden was. Now they tanked, and they still don't get Oden.

Pre-draft article on why the Celtics are #2 on deserving a #1 pick due to fan hardship.

Quote :

"Comments: You're sitting there thinking, "that bastard rigged the grades so the Celtics would profit from his stupid scoring system." Not true. Name me a team that suffered more trauma since the mid-'80s: Lenny Bias and Reggie Lewis, the demolition of the Boston Garden, the M.L. Carr era, the Duncan lottery, the Pitino era, the Paul Pierce stabbing, the Vin Baker trade, Red Auerbach's death, Doc Rivers' second life. ... After 16 titles in 30 years, it's been a preposterously brutal stretch of bad luck. Now ... I want you to zoom through the 14 lottery teams again. With the possible exception of Seattle (for reasons we're about to explain), find me a group of fans who'd be more devastated tonight if they didn't land No. 1 or No. 2. Name me a better home for Oden or Durant from the NBA's standpoint. Name me a young team that makes a leap more quickly than the Celtics with a Pierce-Jefferson-Oden/Durant nucleus. Compared to the other perennial screw-ups and basketball coldbeds on this list, how could you argue against the Celtics' karmic rights for a top-two pick? We're due, aren't we? Please tell me we're due. For the love of God, TELL ME WE'RE DUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

[Edited on May 22, 2007 at 10:17 PM. Reason : .]

5/22/2007 10:11:55 PM

he actually wanted durant way more than oden, but i see your point

fwiw, he hates the c's management and coach.

and he actually gave some logical reasons about the charlotte thing a ways back but i cant find it


but man, stomach punch for memphis and boston

5/22/2007 10:20:23 PM

how sweet it is

screw Bill Simmons

Quote :

"If I'm the Bobcats, I package your two #1's and move up to get Brewer. Felton Brewer Wallace Rashard Lewis Okafor"

This is what I have been telling myself all night

move up, move up, move up

that 8 and 22 pick isnt going to do shit compared to what we could get out of Brewer

and yeah, with Durant coming to town, i think Rashards ship has sailed

5/22/2007 10:27:52 PM

Some Celtics fans think the draft was rigged.

Quote :

"Usually not into the conspiracy theories, but somehow the three main tankers didnn't make the top 3. Then other tanking teams Minny and Charlotte also didn't make the top 3. But somehow 3 non-tanking teams all somehow each beat huge odds and made the top 3. I'd love to hear the odds that not one tanking team would make the top 3 (Mem, Bos, Mil, MIn, Cha). I've NEVER thought these things had any remote chance of being fixed, but something doesn't smell right here. Also (and I know people will disagree with me here) I think that's Simmons consistent tanking articles on ESPN made this whole tanking thing a phenomenon and may have forced Stern to step in. "

Quote :

"Done. See ya, guys, I am done with this league. The fact that there was potential for a horrible injustice was a huge issue for me (see my earlier posts). The fact that it has happened seals the deal. The NBA has lost a fan for life. I just can't take this sort of heartbreak! The Trailblazers? The Supersonics? Sox, Patriots, and college basketball from now on. Enough."

What can you say? Tank the season and don't even try to hide it, and now you realize karma's a b****.

5/22/2007 10:31:42 PM

Quote :

"Then other tanking teams Minny and Charlotte also didn't make the top 3."

this guy is a dumb cunt.

The bobcats did anything but tank

They had the 3rd worst record with a month left and finished in a tie for the 8th worst

5/22/2007 10:35:00 PM

oh well

one less Boston cunt fan

no loss

5/22/2007 10:48:19 PM

Western dominance doesn't look like it will change anytime soon.

5/22/2007 11:03:42 PM

Oden and Durant have to be pissed

the Pacific Northwest is not where I want to be if I'm young, black and famous

and the League has to be pissed as well to have have the two next superstars on the west coast and in smaller media markets

[Edited on May 22, 2007 at 11:48 PM. Reason : x]

5/22/2007 11:40:36 PM

chinese dude will be the best. chinese dude will be the best.

5/22/2007 11:48:52 PM

So the Sonics have the rights (essentially) to one of the most hyped players in recent times (Durant/Oden)

Don't they also have the ability to now move to a new city?

Seems like a great way to bring fans in to the new franchise city.

Correct me if I'm wrong cause I don't follow NBA that close.

5/23/2007 1:07:02 AM

raleighs building them an arena downtown right now.

5/23/2007 1:08:02 AM

i am very anxious to see yi jianlian play

5/23/2007 1:18:12 AM

Nate McMilian must be thrilled today....

He now has this possibility:

5) Oden
4) Lamarcus Aldridge
3) Zach Randolph
2) Brandon Roy
1) Jack/Webster

Jesus this team could be sick really soon

5/23/2007 1:22:43 AM

not as sick as this team

5) Pachulia
4) Marvin Williams/Sheldon Williams
3) Josh Smith/Josh Childress
2) Joe Johnson
1) Mike Conley

+ the 11 pick

[Edited on May 23, 2007 at 1:28 AM. Reason : maybe even take yi]

5/23/2007 1:27:51 AM

^ By sick he means good, not diseased

5/23/2007 2:17:19 AM

Quote :

"the Pacific Northwest is not where I want to be if I'm young, black and famous"

Actually, considering that

- Washington has no property tax
- Oregon has no sales tax

It'd be pretty sweet, I'd live in like Vancouver, WA and just get on I-5 and drive across the state border to Portland when I had to be there. Save a lot of $$$$ that way

5/23/2007 2:20:19 AM

^^ oh sry, disregard my post

5/23/2007 2:27:45 AM

Quote :

"Nate McMilian must be thrilled today.... He now has this possibility: 5) Oden 4) Lamarcus Aldridge 3) Zach Randolph 2) Brandon Roy 1) Jack/Webster Jesus this team could be sick really soon "

Except Aldridge is more of a 5 and Randolph is definately a 4, why not draft Durant as a 3 and have a cohesive frontcourt?



[Edited on May 23, 2007 at 4:50 AM. Reason : .]

5/23/2007 4:38:07 AM

Because they need an elite defender to makeup for Z.Randolph's defensive deficiencies.

Having Oden and Aldridge paired together certainly isn't a bad thing since they are both so young.

Eventually they can move one of them if they need to.


Martrell Webster isn't actually any good, you should have listed Sergio Rodriguez as the other PG, he's got a lot of potential.

I wonder if this changes Seattle's thinking about re-signing Rashard Lewis? They have a plethora of young big men with potential (Swift/Petro/Collison), two PG's, Ray Allen, Durant, and Rashard if they keep him. That team could be a potential contender as early as next season.


Sucks Phoenix didnt get to add a top 5 pick, i woulda loved to see them add another piece to build a super team.

5/23/2007 9:58:32 AM

Quote :

"If I'm the Bobcats, I package your two #1's and move up to get Brewer"

i was thinking about that possibility, but we dont have a 2nd round pick and this draft is fairly deep so I figure we can get a quality player at 22

looks like Oden is gonna get busted for weed sometime in the next year, given thats what players do in Portland

5/23/2007 10:30:40 AM

damn, Roy Hibbert is returning to school. I thought he's a lottery pick for sure.

5/23/2007 11:15:40 AM

Quote :

"Sending both Oden and Durant to the west coast. "

yeah, i think this is a bad move. one of them needs to be in the east to help the NBA as a brand.
Western dominance ever since the break up of the Bulls

I really wished one of the spots had landed in Boston even though Im not a Celt fan...i really think their fans deserve it

5/23/2007 12:20:03 PM

Quote :

"Sending both Oden and Durant to the west coast. "

yeah, i think this is a bad move. one of them needs to be in the east to help the NBA as a brand.
Western dominance ever since the break up of the Bulls

I really wished one of the spots had landed in Boston even though Im not a Celt fan...i really think their fans deserve it

5/23/2007 12:21:36 PM

Read on hoopshype.com that Sonics considering trading Lewis to Portland for Zach Randolph and a few role players....

now that lineup would be sick:

Jack, Roy, Lewis, Aldridge, Oden

watch the fuck out if that happens...

5/23/2007 12:39:16 PM

lawl at Bill Simmons article today

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/070523&sportCat=nba

poor baby

5/23/2007 3:22:26 PM

the blazers are still at least 2 years away from being a playoff team. I mean those guys you are naming for their lineups are good players but be for real. These guys have ZERO playoff experience.

The Sonics will be better than the Blazers next year

5/23/2007 4:48:18 PM

if Ray Allen had stayed healthy this year they couldve been in the playoff hunt

Chris Wilcox had a nice season

5/23/2007 4:53:21 PM

the draft will be good but the biggest and best change for the upcoming season will be

5/23/2007 7:40:41 PM

^ FUCK YES!!!!

5/23/2007 7:41:07 PM

hell yeah KG in LA!!

5/23/2007 10:56:30 PM

Greg Oden seems like a really nice guy, really polite, humble, respects his elders... you know, moses, dick cheney, bob hope

5/23/2007 11:21:36 PM

this thread was going great until people stopped forming their own opinions and started regurgitating what they hear on espn about the northwest and the league needing Oden and Durant in the East. we all heard it people, no need to repeat what is said on every single sportscenter.

5/23/2007 11:56:18 PM

^who cares what you said


KG TO THE LAKERS!!!!!

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5/24/2007 9:10:24 AM

for the sake of comedy, I hope the Hawks take Brandan Wright.

5/24/2007 9:48:37 AM