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"Even if he just sat there for four years and vetoed wasteful spending bills while drumming home the principles of smaller gov't and liberty...he could inspire thousands of young people to pick up the torch and run with it"

yep, that would be awesome.

hell, it would be awesome even if NOBODY got inspired...if he could just put a 4-year halt to the raping of the Constitution and the pillaging and oppression of the people, it would be the best thing i've ever seen happen in Washington.

[Edited on June 6, 2007 at 3:57 PM. Reason : but the entire premise of this thread is absolutely retarded]

6/6/2007 3:56:42 PM

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"No one likes scrolling the page"

Funny. Nobody posts a complaint (other than me) when one of the SB trolls pic bombs one of my threads (or uses some other form of sabotage) in order to deliberatly fuck up one of my threads..including causing you to have to use the scroll.




[Edited on June 6, 2007 at 4:05 PM. Reason : -]

6/6/2007 4:02:43 PM

That's because they don't like you.

6/6/2007 4:19:23 PM

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"That's because they don't like you."

Wow. Thanks for that blinding insight. I didn't know that.

And I'm glad scumbags like those losers hate me. If they liked me, then I know I'm doing something wrong.

6/6/2007 4:37:06 PM

salisbury how come the zionists havent offed any of the candidates who they choose not to allow to be elected? flex their power a little bit you know

6/6/2007 4:40:55 PM

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"If they liked me, then I know I'm doing something wrong. "

Are you really George Bush?....I'm starting think this is that south park episode where the gov perpetuates the conspiracy theories so people will get this inflated vision of their capabilities.

6/6/2007 4:52:06 PM

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"Do not think a Ron Paul presidency would be lame duck. A president still wields a lot of power. Even if he just sat there for four years and vetoed wasteful spending bills while drumming home the principles of smaller gov't and liberty...he could inspire thousands of young people to pick up the torch and run with it."

6/6/2007 6:09:05 PM

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"the "free market" doesn't really like his chances all that much"

You know I get the feeling that you seem to enjoy or get some type of satisfaction from the thought that Paul is fighting an uphill battle.

Someone so clearly different and novel tries to break out of the pack of same-old same-old candidates and his daunting odds seems to bring you and some others joy.

Sure change is going to be a tough fight. But you have youth and energy on your side.

If you like the ideas of a Ron Paul, stop listening to the voices of defeat and cynicism...and start picturing a different world and how to get to it.

[Edited on June 6, 2007 at 10:00 PM. Reason : .]

6/6/2007 9:59:53 PM

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"You know I get the feeling that you seem to enjoy or get some type of satisfaction from the thought that Paul is fighting an uphill battle. Someone so clearly different and novel tries to break out of the pack of same-old same-old candidates and his daunting odds seems to bring you and some others joy."

Haha




Now do you understand?

[Edited on June 6, 2007 at 10:10 PM. Reason : .]

6/6/2007 10:04:48 PM

im not voting for a candidate with two first names

6/7/2007 1:25:26 AM

^John Edwards?

6/7/2007 11:20:36 AM

I love Ron Paul. He really draws all the loony libertarians out of the wood work.

"OMG A RETURN TO THE GOLD STANDARD!?!?!? AWESOME!!!"

6/7/2007 11:33:57 AM

thank GOD the voting population wasnt dumb enough to elect Nader

6/7/2007 11:40:59 AM

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2007/060607debaterigged.htm

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"Analysis Shows Debate Was Rigged Establishment candidates get double the amount of questions, triple the time Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet Wednesday, June 6, 2007 A cursory analysis of last night's Republican presidential candidate's debate on CNN manifestly proves that, as in the case of the previous debates, the corporate media rigged the event in favor of establishment candidates while blacklisting underdogs like Ron Paul. "I think we're a powerful dark horse and I think we're knocking right on the door and I think we've got some of the "top tier" candidates pretty nervous," Ron Paul's communications director Jesse Benton said today during an appearance on the Alex Jones Show. Benton had one of his assistants calculate the figures, concluding that Ron Paul was asked eight questions and spoke for a total of 6-and-a-half minutes. In comparison, Rudy Giuliani got 14 questions and spoke for 17 minutes - almost double the amount of questions and triple the amount of time - how can anyone claim that this is not a rigged debate when the establishment candidates are brazenly favored and lavished with attention? This came to the fore last night when Wolf Blitzer asked a question about health care and Ron Paul - the only candidate on the podium who is also a medical doctor - was completely ignored. In addition, after the debate Giuliani, Romney and McCain all got immediate interviews with either Wolf Blitzer or Larry King whereas Ron Paul was dismissed, despite the fact that he has been making headlines since the last debate after his confrontation with Rudy Giuliani and won CNN's own debate poll. Debunkers can make excuses about Ron Paul not being a frontrunner, but the fact remains that Paul has won nearly every post-debate poll. Industry forecasters like NFLSystems.com are now on record with the fact that the momentum of Ron Paul's campaign has propelled him from being an unknown also-ran to a strong contender - with seven months still left until the nomination. USAElectionPolls.com also confirm that the Texas Congressman's support in telephone polls is higher than first estimated and growing all the time. Even aside from this, in the past debates were strictly time-controlled and one candidate was not given preference over another. If this is the way the corporate media chooses to run the show then fair enough - but don't pretend that these debates are anything other than undemocratic, staged and rigged theatre that are designed to cull underdogs while establishment-approved candidates are exalted."

6/7/2007 12:11:01 PM

Is the Democratic debate rigged too since Clinton, Obama and Edwards get double the questions and triple the time?

6/7/2007 12:21:46 PM

http://pcapostate.blogspot.com/

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"Ron Paul, Channon Christian, Immigration, Israel, and Media LIES By Curt Maynard [...] Paul will become the next President of the United States if the election process isn’t successfully hijacked by the media early on or stolen outright in 2008. The media’s approach to Ron Paul is blatantly obvious; they’re going to ignore him and when that doesn’t work they’ll fall back on their tried and true approach of lying, distorting, fabricating and deceiving. Paul’s opponents have all but thrown in the towel insofar as attempting to beat him politically, both so called front runners John “Pro-illegal immigrant” McCain and Rudy “Twin Towers” Giuliani have wisely decided to skip the Iowa Straw Poll,[7] knowing that to participate would only further reveal to the public that both men are pro-Zionist kosher favorites rather than truly popular with the American people. The truth is - neither McCain nor Giuliani are at all popular with the people, but they are and will remain the Zionist media’s favorite candidates, because both men have shown a willingness to betray America and serve their Zionist masters."

6/7/2007 1:00:22 PM

why dont you answer my question? its been obvious to anyone for the last couple months that the debates, for both parties, and the ensuing commentaries put Giuliani, McCain, Romney as the 3 front runners, regardless of who the actual front runners were/are

same thing with the Dems...Obama, Edwards and Hill Dog have been discussed as the top 3 Dem nominees

oh yeah, you're a fucking psycho yayface

6/7/2007 1:04:39 PM

salisburyboy, I think you should learn french, move to canada, and cut yourself

6/7/2007 1:04:52 PM

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"Paul will become the next President of the United States if the election process isn’t successfully hijacked by the media early on or stolen outright in 2008"

even somebody as batshit crazy as salisburyboy should know this is just a stupid ass statement

not only could he easily not be the candidate in 08 (which he wont by the way), but motherfuckers cant even get exit polls right...let alone 18 month predictions

COCAINE IS A HELLUVA DRUG

6/7/2007 1:06:56 PM

http://chrisdodd.com/node/1382

OMFG, THE ESTABLISHMENT IS CLEARLY IN FAVOR OF WOLF BLITZER FOR THE GOP NOMINATION.

6/7/2007 1:20:56 PM

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"the debates, for both parties, and the ensuing commentaries put Giuliani, McCain, Romney as the 3 front runners, regardless of who the actual front runners were/are same thing with the Dems...Obama, Edwards and Hill Dog have been discussed as the top 3 Dem nominees "

I agree with the overall statement, but it wasn't the debates or commentaries that put the 3 in front for either party, its the fund raising (which also needs major reform imo).

[Edited on June 7, 2007 at 2:14 PM. Reason : .]

6/7/2007 2:14:18 PM

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"motherfuckers cant even get exit polls right...let alone 18 month predictions "

6/7/2007 7:13:03 PM

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/06/07/the-ron-paul-%e2%80%98phenom%e2%80%99/#comments

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"June 7, 2007 The Ron Paul phenomenon WASHINGTON (CNN) — It’s been an exciting week for us at the Ticker – a few days ago, we opened up the comments section of our blog, and since then, we’ve received thousands of responses. A large number of the ones we’ve posted so far have been from supporters of White House presidential hopeful Ron Paul, R-Texas. But come Tuesday night’s GOP debate, we were inundated with Paul comments on our ticker post: “Who won the GOP debate?” Many of the comments we received were supportive of the Texas congressman, while others registered frustration that the flood of Paul posts impeded the general online discussion, likening them to spam. One thing is for sure: Ron Paul supporters are effective at coordinating and mobilizing online quickly. For the three GOP debates so far, Paul has won or placed high in most of the unscientific online surveys including ABC’s, MSNBC’s, FOX’s, and unscientific polls conducted on a number of blogs. Paul virtually swept CNN’s unscientific survey after Tuesday night’s GOP debate: not only did participants say Paul won the debate, but also that he knew the most about the issues, had the best one-liner, had the most surprising performance, and got the biggest boost from the debate. (He wasn’t considered the snappiest dresser, however – see Mitt Romney). The topic is getting some play on conservative blogs, too. [...] The comments section is intended to be informal, of course, but the strain on resources that night prompted us to take down the “Who won the GOP debate” question (though that didn’t stop Paul supporters from commenting; they started adding comments to the “Who won the Democratic debate?” post). The intention was not to censor Ron Paul supporters...."

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure the intent was "not to censor Ron Paul supporters." And the sun doesn't come up in the east either.

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"Right now “Ron Paul” is among the top-searched terms on Technorati, the popular site that tracks blog posts. According to the community Web site, Eventful, there are more than 16,000 outstanding “demands” for Paul to appear in cities across the country – that’s up 11,000 from just one week ago, leapfrogging him over Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-New York. "

The establishment "scientific" polls saying Paul has 1 or 2 % support are COMPLETE BULLSHIT. All other REAL indicators show that Paul is the real GOP frontrunner.

At the very least, the groudswell of support from politically active supporters of Paul shows that he has the majority of LIKELY voters in the next election. I mean, think about it, how many GOP people out there are pumped up and excited for voting for McCain or Giuliani. What a joke.

6/8/2007 7:43:20 AM

What are the other "REAL" indicators you are referring to? And do you vote? Do you actually do anything politically related other than post anonymously on this website and prisonplanet? You strike me as the kinda guy that is fat, overweight, out of a job, and sits in a dark run down house, with the blinds pulled, following the latest conspiracy trend, trying desperately to be relevant.

6/8/2007 9:26:14 AM

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"What are the other "REAL" indicators you are referring to? "

Don't you know? There are no other indicators other than the 100% gospel truth so-called "polls" the establishment media spoon feeds you?? I mean, there is just NO WAY the establishment media could POSSIBLY be manipulating/falsifying/fabricating those "polls" in order to put out a false perception. It's not like the establishment media has an agenda or lies to us on a grand scale like virtually all the time on important issues...or anything.

----->Web polls, internet traffic data, web search data, overall/general buzz on internet chat rooms & message boards, call in shows on C-SPAN, etc.



[Edited on June 8, 2007 at 10:08 AM. Reason : 88934512345]

6/8/2007 10:00:04 AM

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"There are no other indicators other than the 100% gospel truth so-called "polls" the establishment media spoon feeds you??"

You stupid moronic dolt. You added context to my question where there was none. I simply wanted to know which REAL indicators you were referring to.

So lets see, you cited "the internet" as your indicators. How many rich, older republicans, you know the ones that will actually get out and vote, spend their days scuttled away somewhere banging away on chat forums, skewing poll results?

A mild buzz about Ron Paul on the interweb, doesn't mean shit.

News flash tin hat clown, there is a world outside.

6/8/2007 10:15:23 AM

Prediction:

Paul receives slightly more support than the polls in NH indicate, but still getting nothing more than 4-5%.

Salisburyboy posts indicating widespread disenfranchisement and establishment vote rigging.

6/8/2007 10:34:06 AM

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"tinyurl ftw"

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"Favorite Quote : "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer and impossible to ignore. The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used against them -- except force."[...]"Ask not if I am a conspiracy theorist, a racist, a bigot, a hater, a nazi or an anti-semite. Ask only if I am RIGHT."--JBR Yant "

hahahahahaha.......that was good

[Edited on June 8, 2007 at 10:47 AM. Reason : ]

6/8/2007 10:44:52 AM

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"Paul receives slightly more support than the polls in NH indicate, but still getting nothing more than 4-5%."

I'd waiger that's the case... I'd also be willing to bet that if he got a more fair-shake by the media that number would be even higher than that, though still probably not as high as web polls. (A lack of equal air time doesn't necessarily mean there's a conspiracy)

I think the real rub here is that the American people by and large don't want to hear what Ron Paul has to say... He's too honest, and most of what he says requires more thought than easily fits on a bumper sticker.

6/8/2007 10:52:03 AM

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"and most of what he says requires more thought than easily fits on a bumper sticker."

Huh?

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/

Just reading that page (and not following the more info links) the only one of those that would stumble a voter might be American Independence and Sovereignty. Everything else is plain speak, and is simple to understand. How hard is it to resonate with a conservative when you tell them, I'm for small government, and lower taxes.

I wish the media would get off the McCains and Guilianis dick. The more I see them ride their jocks, and how terrible they are as candidates, the more I think that powerful interests are at play trying to decide this thing for us.

6/8/2007 10:58:56 AM

^ I was speaking specifically about the interventionalist international policy being related to terrorist attacks in the US. (Which apparently most people think equals "blame America")

He's also got the problem that people who call themselves "Conservative" or Republican these days... don't actually fit the same description of conservative that Ron Paul espouses. The powerful interests at work here are the same ones that are always at work... Money.

And unfortunately, there aren't quite as many special interest groups interested in pushing for a candidate like Ron Paul... I'm not sure what it would take to get him on the ticket in '08... but at present, it certainly seems it won't happen through traditional media.

6/8/2007 11:07:14 AM