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sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
depends on the series but yes most were 22re varients
Quote : | "6:11.13 Porsche 956 Gr. C Stefan Bellof n/a n/a pole-position for 1983 1000 km Nürburgring (202.073 km/h)" |
shut up... they were assuming that "of a production vehicle" would be assumed.
gt3=/= one of the best race cars ever...
and to think i somewhat respected u.
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TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
I'll believe this LF-A time when its done with a production vehicle on street legal tires. Until then, all fluff 1/2/2008 1:45:18 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
^ agreed.
but then again if any company can use the pfm card in engineering its toyota i mean the heavier supra did handle and ride better then c4 vettes w/ smaller tires.
(pure fuggin magic) 1/2/2008 5:00:42 PM |
Ahmet All American 4279 Posts user info edit post |
These claims seem absurd to me. If you have an idea of weight and power... You're going to get some idea of what the car's capable of.
There's also the fact that the Japanese have built many "fast" cars in the past, that don't feel all that great to drive, nor are reliable on track. Not fun brings up the 3000gt/supra, not reliable (but oh what a great drive) the RX-7. Ahmet <--don't listen to anything I say, I don't like most Japanese cars. 1/4/2008 1:03:29 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
2008 Lexus LF-A Roadster Concept revealed at the NAIAS.
Wow, this almost looks like a handmade rare Italian exotic!
1/16/2008 7:13:04 AM |
drunktyper All American 1094 Posts user info edit post |
God Damn thats sexy!
It looks much better than the previous pictures...WOW 1/16/2008 8:24:27 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
yeah but since its a concept it was hand made and is exotic ... if they make it look like that in production i'll be impressed. 1/16/2008 9:45:05 AM |
underPSI tillerman 14085 Posts user info edit post |
bttt per request 5/22/2008 3:40:41 PM |
jsmcconn All American 1220 Posts user info edit post |
decent overallprofile look but the giant vents are cheezy for a production car and wtf is that knee pad on the dash for
[Edited on May 22, 2008 at 6:19 PM. Reason : ass end is stupid... exhaust, taillights, vents] 5/22/2008 6:16:38 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Lexus LF-A Rumored to be Priced Over $200K
Quote : | "It may not be the most anticipated sports car of the decade, not in an M3 or Camaro type way. Yet the Lexus LF-A is one of the most important, possibly the most important in the history of Toyota. This because Lexus is the biggest luxury car maker in the biggest car market in the world, the US. And LF-A – both coupe and drop-top versions – would be its first real sports car, the type going after the old boys’ club of Lamborghini Gallardo, BMW M6, Chevy Corvette, Porsche 911 Turbo and Ferrari F430.
Probably for this reason is pricing rumored to be in the 200s. Yap, that’s USD200,000. Ben Mitchell, a corporate planning manager for Lexus was quoted by Inside Line as saying the car’s price “will begin with a two”. We take that not to mean USD20,000, although we wish it did. Someone else said over USD250,000 and this was a source in Japan. Should this prove true we are looking at a car chasing Ferraris and upper end Porsches, as well as Lambos in pricing. And if this is indeed the case, performance is then expected to match these names.
For LF-A, said to pack 500-plus horsepower in between its 5-liter V10 and over 200 mph, it means weight must not be an issue firstly. Secondly, handling needs to be top-notch, and as spy videos have shown, there is plenty work done in this regard already. Although quite high the speculated price, we are glad because it means the upcoming Toyota-branded sports firecracker will come in lower in price." |
Quote : | "decent overallprofile look but the giant vents are cheezy for a production car and wtf is that knee pad on the dash for
ass end is stupid... exhaust, taillights, vents" |
I don't see any "knee pad". Giant vents are cheezy for a production car? Well, this isn't a Camry or a Lexus sedan. This is an exotic supercar, and supercars sure have huge vents, and nobody calls them cheesy, especially if they are functional. And I am sure they are functional.
Those taillights (and the headlights) are some of the best on any car. Do you like your [tail]lights to have the generic trapezoidal look that is found on everything from Kias to MBs?
BTW, here are some pics to show you that the car is freakin gorgeous, at least to me:
And here are 2 renderings of the upcoming 2010 Supra:
[Edited on May 23, 2008 at 6:06 PM. Reason : ]5/23/2008 5:56:31 PM |
sparky Garage Mod 12301 Posts user info edit post |
bttt 10/16/2009 9:25:20 AM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
pic post [fail] 10/19/2009 7:48:56 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
This Dutch auto journalist just a few days ago says the LFA is the BEST car he has ever driven! And he says it should be parked next to Zondas and Carerra GTs and McLaren F1s... wow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytjOyB3VwIo
Anyway, watch the video to hear the LFA zoom past at high speeds as he speaks at some racetrack. At 0:27 and 1:05. It sounds positively murderous!
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The production car is out today at the Tokyo Motor Show... after the first concept being shown in 2005! I think it took longer than the Veyron!
Here is a nice video of the production model going at high speeds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fTfRh0_RQ4
Official Lexus video, also very nice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6SySdNaCys
Configurator: http://ww2.lexus-lfa.com/index.html
Amazing specs!
4.8 litre V10 552 hp, 354 lb-ft 6-speed sequential gearbox 9,000 rpm redline!!! 3,263 lbs 0-60 mph in 3.6 sec (expect 3.3) 202 mph top 500 units $375,000 Veyron-esque spoiler
Damn, it is rarer and more expensive than the Murcielago! And with that redline, it is obvious Toyota have gone with the racy F1 approach, rather than a gentleman's cruiser. The floodgates have been opened for showdowns with Italian and German supercars for the next several months, and of course, with the GT-R.
Overall, the car is gorgeous and quite unique looking. I prefer the headlights of the concept though (esp those of the roadster concept you see on this page). And the wheels are bloody gorgeous.
Hi-res galleries: http://www.autoblog.com/gallery/lexus-lf-a-0/full/ http://www.autoblog.com/gallery/lexus-lfa-configurator/full/ http://www.autoblog.com/gallery/tokyo-2009-2011-lexus-lfa/full/
[Edited on October 21, 2009 at 11:47 PM. Reason : ] 10/21/2009 11:44:35 PM |
H8R wear sumthin tight 60155 Posts user info edit post |
I thought this was supposed to be front engine?
where's the engine on this one? the vents kinda make it seem like its mid-mounted 10/21/2009 11:51:53 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Hi-res: http://img.worldcarfans.com/2009/10/large/8270007.jpg
And these pics are simply awesome http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/10/18-lexus-lfa-press.jpg http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/10/21-lexus-lfa-press.jpg http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/10/23-lexus-lfa-press.jpg
You can have your own free LFA!!! http://lexuslfa.wikispaces.com/
BTW, 65% of the body is carbon fiber! 10/22/2009 12:09:14 AM |
MattJM321 All American 4003 Posts user info edit post |
I think it's ugly. OEP, are you American? (you said bloody)
The headlights and tail lights look like my gfs IS250. The scoop and dropped window line remind me of the Hyundai Genesis coupe. The spoiler came off a Veyron. The seats are Mercedes.
Lexus had a perfectly clean slate to make their own supercar...and they took the safe route and didn't design anything dramatic and copied styling cues from everyone else. Nothing ground breaking here. I don't like this car. 10/23/2009 9:08:18 AM |
shmorri2 All American 10003 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The headlights and tail lights look like my gfs IS250. The scoop and dropped window line remind me of the Hyundai Genesis coupe. The spoiler came off a Veyron. The seats are Mercedes. " |
zomg. You n00bs need to stop saying, "This looks like a ________" or "OMG, The seat are Mercedes." So fucking what?
You know why the headlights and tail lights look like your gfs IS250? BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH LEXUS. Actually, you must have bad memory, or just bad eyes, because they are quite different. There's really not too much in common between the IS250 headlights/taillights and the LF-A, in terms of styling.
You sir, must be a troll. GG. You forgot to mention the "Ferrari exhaust" and the fact that it has an combustion engine like just about every other carmaker.
+1 for a extremely sexy car. But for the price, I'd rather buy a GT3-RS and an R8 and pocket the difference.
[Edited on October 23, 2009 at 9:36 AM. Reason : .]10/23/2009 9:33:43 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
10/23/2009 9:45:21 AM |
MattJM321 All American 4003 Posts user info edit post |
BAM
10/23/2009 9:47:50 AM |
shmorri2 All American 10003 Posts user info edit post |
I still stand by what I said. They are both Lexus so yes, they will have similar styling cues. However, the LF-A is much sleeker looking than the IS250. To each their own.
[Edited on October 23, 2009 at 9:59 AM. Reason : .]
10/23/2009 9:54:19 AM |
MattJM321 All American 4003 Posts user info edit post |
It looks squashed and then someone took a knife and cut some vents 10/23/2009 10:06:10 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think it's ugly. OEP, are you American? (you said bloody)" |
No, I am not American, but I have been told by many people that I act and talk more American than any other race/country/ethnicity.
About the car, I am not too happy with the lights on both ends. The headlights actually have an awkward 'unbalanced' shape. The lights were far superior on the concepts. So in that respect, I am not happy with Lexus. As for the body shape, wheels, spoiler, and interior, I am very happy, that stuff is all banging, if you ask me.
And I bet it performs like a beast too, and I have a feeling it will break the ACR Viper's, ZR-1's, and GT-R's 'Ring records. At least a couple of them.
But that price and exclusivity is not good. They are apparently taking a loss on each one, even at that price. But maybe if they made a thousand or 2 of them, and lowered the price a bit, they could have less of a loss, or even break even/make a profit. It is silly to make only 500. This ain't a Veyron or a special edition Lambo/Porsche.10/23/2009 2:07:36 PM |
MattJM321 All American 4003 Posts user info edit post |
looks like this 10/23/2009 2:25:58 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Lexus may offer decontented, track-focused LFA
Quote : | " We're still trying to wrap our heads around yesterday's drive of the Lexus LFA, but before we give up the goods on Toyota's first V10-powered hypercar (check back on Monday), we cornered Paul Williamsen, the National Manager of Lexus College, about ToMoCo's plans to offer a harder, track-focused LFA.
In the last few years of development, Lexus considered building several more LFAs to be used in a one-make spec series to pit wealthy privateers against each other, further accentuating the LFA's extensive motorsport involvement. That plan fell by the wayside when Toyota decided to limit production to just 500 units.
However, Lexus is actively considering offering owners the option to purchase a decontented LFA, stripped of its luxurious, tech-laden interior and fitted with more track oriented features to be used as a weekend racer. A final decision hasn't been made yet, but Williamsen was clear that these hardened LFAs would have to be created out of the current allocation, as Lexus is intent on keeping production to a "hard" 500 units. Considering that nearly all the components fitted to the LFA were derived from prototypes that ran at the 24 Hours of Nurburgring and other events (the suspension remains adjustable for corner balancing and nearly all the components on the race cars were serialed production pieces), it wouldn't take much to turn the LFA into a tried-and-true racer with a few thoughtful, minimal mods." |
[Edited on October 23, 2009 at 6:23 PM. Reason : ]10/23/2009 5:57:40 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
$375,000? LMAO, what a joke.
You could buy 3 ZR1s with that money, even though you only need one to beat it. 10/24/2009 1:14:09 AM |
H8R wear sumthin tight 60155 Posts user info edit post |
^lol
looks mid mounted to me
kinda like a Maserati or an S2000 10/24/2009 1:39:23 AM |
shmorri2 All American 10003 Posts user info edit post |
Kinda like an S-two-fucking-thousand? Oh wait. That's sarcasm right? 10/24/2009 7:32:44 AM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
^ He is speaking about the placement of the engine in relation to the axles. The s2000 is mid engined. Have you ever looked under the hood? 10/24/2009 10:23:04 AM |
Ahmet All American 4279 Posts user info edit post |
Ja, as far as I know the "mid engine" label is assigned when the entire engine is inside the wheelbase. Oddly enough, some mid engined cars don't qualify, while a few front engined cars do. S2000 has the entire engine behind the front axle, so that passes, I believe the 350z does as well, but not positive on that. Some mid engined cars have to be qualified as "mid rear", and many will refer to the S2000 as "mid front" or "front mid". The LF-A I believe has a front mount design, it may very well have the engine behind the front axle as well, but I wouldn't call it a "midship" either, since I don't think the engine is behind the passenger compartment... 10/24/2009 2:46:45 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "since I don't think the engine is behind the passenger compartment..." |
NO WAI
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This is simply awesome.
Tokyo 2009: Cool As Ice: Japanese architect builds full-size transparent Lexus LFA
Quote : | "Inside, we found this amazing full-size transparent sculpture of Lexus' new $375,000 LFA supercar that was constructed by Scu Fujimoto, a noted Japanese architect. The sculpture was first displayed at the Milan Design Week earlier this year and is simply stunning to look at. What's most impressive is that details like the seats, instrument panel, engine, suspension, and transaxle can all be seen.
According to Lexus, the sculpture is constructed from transparent acrylic boards that have been sanded and polished. You can learn more about this unique piece of automotive art at Lexus' L-Finesse web site: http://lexus.jp/lexus_art/ " |
MUST SEE hi-res gallery: http://www.autoblog.com/gallery/tokyo-2009-transparent-lexus-lfa/
low-res sample
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Lexus LFA hotlap at Homestead-Miami Speedway
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9_xDZQ_Lmc
Being driven by this guy:
Quote : | "Hiromu Naruse is Toyota Motor Company's "master test driver." He's the man responsible for honing our favorite ToMoCo sports cars – from the MR2 to the Supra – and he's one of four drivers that ran the 24 Hours of Nürburgring (along with several other races) in two Lexus LFA prototypes, joining Toyota's president, Akio Toyoda in the #14 car. Yesterday, he became our personal chauffer around the Homestead-Miami Speedway." |
10/24/2009 6:12:16 PM |
H8R wear sumthin tight 60155 Posts user info edit post |
some of you need to learn a thing or two before trying to call a motherfucker out
im just sayin.. 10/24/2009 11:16:57 PM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
since when did lexus start doing anything but rebadging toyotas? 10/27/2009 7:16:31 AM |
Genki All American 590 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51U1KiNUlTo 11/9/2009 10:48:54 AM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
embed 11/10/2009 11:10:52 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Hahahah... must see!
VIDEO: Lexus LFA illicitly investigated by fanboy in secret warehouse http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEhX7Uyc7qM 12/2/2009 5:20:56 PM |
Ragged All American 23473 Posts user info edit post |
why do rich snobs like that ugly as fucking bloodmarry red shit. it was terrible in the 80s and it will still looks like shit in 2020 12/2/2009 9:51:45 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
What would any of you prefer, a used Carrera GT or this?
Like its even a question. 12/2/2009 11:26:23 PM |
Ragged All American 23473 Posts user info edit post |
mustang coyote
but id really like to have he IS-F 12/3/2009 12:09:21 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
^^ The LFA will smash every one of GT's numbers, but a Porsche is a Porsche!
If anybody is wondering why they are only making 500, and why it is so expensive ($375K), you should read this very interesting and informative read:
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/26/2011-lexus-lfa-first-drive/
Here is the 2nd paragraph to pique your interest:
Quote : | "It's a front-engine GT, but its MSRP means it doesn't compete with the Ferrari 599. It's a technological tour de force nearly on par with the Bugatti Veyron, but its 202 MPH top speed doesn't come close to the V-max of Ferdinand Piech's quad-turbo masterpiece. It's lithe and nimble, but lacks the directness and tactility of the Lotus Elise. Its 3.7-second zero-to-60 time falls short of the GT-R, and it can't come close to the Nissan's point-to-point brutality. There's simply no frame of reference to apply, which begs the question: Why? Why has Lexus invested hundreds of million of dollars, ran a dozen races and developed nearly every single component in-house to build a scant 500 LFAs and offer them to the world's elite?" |
This is simply an F1 car for the road, unlike a lot of supercars of today. And remember, 65% of it is carbon fiber, and 35% aluminum, no steel at all. That explains some of the cost as well.
And now I will present to you a very beautiful and mesmerizing video that will blow your mind away. First, read this:
Quote : | " Toyota has 150 years of textile manufacturing experience. Why bring it up? That gracefully arching A-pillar is the product of one of two rotary looms in the world (we're working on snagging video from Lexus PR) masterfully weaving individual strands of carbon fiber into the desired shape. And that's just the A-pillar. Every single carbon fiber component was developed and manufactured by Toyota – from the tub to the body panels – including the blast fiber reinforced sheet panels (think Chevrolet Corvette or Saturn) for the front and rear fenders, doors, roof rails and rocker panels. Parking lot dings are a simple (if expensive) swap away. " |
Here is the video:
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/29/video-weaving-the-lexus-lfas-carbon-fiber-a-pillar/12/3/2009 11:38:42 AM |
shmorri2 All American 10003 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Because of its low placement and the rear-mounted six-speed sequential gearbox, Toyota developed an offset gear mounted to the crank that sends power to the transmission through a torque tube – a world's first." |
Woah woah woah... I've got a torque tube too!12/3/2009 11:58:49 AM |
Ragged All American 23473 Posts user info edit post |
I thought corvettes had those tubes 12/3/2009 12:11:00 PM |
shmorri2 All American 10003 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "A torque tube system is an automobile driveshaft technology, used in cars with a front engine and rear drive. It is not as widespread as the Hotchkiss drive, but is still occasionally used to this day.
The "torque" that is referred to in the name is not that of the driveshaft, along the axis of the car, but that applied by the wheels. The design problem that the torque tube solves is how to get the traction forces generated by the wheels to the car frame. The "torque tube" transmits this force by directly coupling the axle differential to the transmission and therefore propels the car forward by pushing on the engine/transmission and then through the engine mounts to the car frame[citation needed]. In contrast, the Hotchkiss drive has the traction forces transmitted to the car frame by using other suspension components such as leaf springs or trailing arms. A ball and socket type of joint called a "torque ball" is used at one end of the torque tube to allow relative motion between the axle and transmission due to suspension travel. Since the torque tube does not constrain the axle in the lateral (side-to-side) direction a panhard rod is often used for this purpose. The combination of the panhard rod and the torque tube allows the easy implementation of soft coil springs in the rear to give good ride quality[citation needed].
In addition to transmitting the traction forces, the torque tube is hollow and contains the rotating driveshaft. Inside the hollow torque ball is the universal joint of the driveshaft that allows relative motion between the two ends of the driveshaft. In most applications the drive shaft uses a single universal joint which has the disadvantage that it causes speed fluctuations in the driveshaft when the shaft is not straight. The Hotchkiss drive uses two universal joints which has the effect of canceling the speed fluctuations and gives a constant speed even when the shaft is no longer straight[citation needed].
Examples of the torque tube were the American cars of the Ford brand up through 1948, which used the less expensive transverse springs that could not take the thrust[citation needed]. Buick started using coil springs in the 1930s, as did Nash's post-war Airflyte model; these also necessitated using a torque tube. American Motors (AMC) also continued to use a coil spring rear suspension design with a torque tube on their large-sized cars (Rambler Classic and Ambassador) through the 1966 model year. The 1961-1963 Pontiac Tempest incorporated an unusual curved “torque-tube” with a 4-inch drop (about 10 centimeters) that housed a 3/4 inch (2 cm) solid steel driveshaft (nicknamed the "rope shaft") without universal joints on each end. The main purpose was to make the floor lower, thus increasing the car's interior room. The Peugeot 504 and the Volvo 300 Series also used a torque tube. The torque tube driveline is also used in Sprintcars and Midget cars. The C5 and C6 Chevrolet Corvette, Lexus LF-A, Porsche 924, Porsche 928, Porsche 944, Aston Martin DBR9, Aston Martin DBS, Aston Martin DB7, and upcoming Mercedes AMG SLS also use variations on this design. " |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque_tube12/3/2009 1:16:21 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
I think you guys read it wrong. I think they're talking about the offset gear mounted on the crank, not the torque tube. 12/3/2009 3:28:34 PM |
shmorri2 All American 10003 Posts user info edit post |
Lol. No I got that part. Not too many vehicles have actual torque tubes, which is what I was excited about. But the gear thing is cool too. 12/3/2009 3:33:06 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
Okay I read Autoblog's review and I'm not "seeing" what OEPII1 said I should.
Quote : | "The LFA will smash every one of GT's numbers, but a Porsche is a Porsche!" |
And how's that, exactly?
LFA: 552bhp, 354 lb-ft, 3,263 lb curb weight Carrera GT: 605hp, 405 lb-ft, 3,000 lb curb weight
The only disadvantage I can see performance-wise is the GT using a true manual 6sp with a clutch pedal instead of something paddle shifted.
I don't feel as harsh about the styling as I did before. I've decided that white looks horrible on this car.
Car looks way better in black, probably b/c you can't see all the ridiculous vents. Nonetheless, this doesn't look like a $375k car. Instead it looks like a $100k competitor for the GT-R
Now...THAT car looks like it's worth $400k12/3/2009 3:44:52 PM |
H8R wear sumthin tight 60155 Posts user info edit post |
it looks a lot like a celica that's been stepped on
still looks better in black
but yah, i'd much rather have a carrera gt for that money 12/3/2009 3:56:51 PM |
shmorri2 All American 10003 Posts user info edit post |
I think that is one badass Lexus.
But that's in comparison with the rest of the Lexus vehicle line. Like the article said, they made it just because they could, not really to compete with other cars. With that said, I too would take a Carrera GT. Too bad they aren't making them though. :/ So really, I think I'd just have to get a Lamborghini Murcielago. But then again, I'd rather just get a Gallardo LP 560-4 and pocket the difference (I like the smaller Gallardo more actually).
[Edited on December 3, 2009 at 4:11 PM. Reason : .] 12/3/2009 4:07:47 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
I'm just trying to figure out how you can make a car that expensive and not see anything as a result. Gee whiz, carbon fiber and aluminum and yet it still weighs 3200lbs. Amazing. 12/3/2009 4:42:14 PM |
Ragged All American 23473 Posts user info edit post |
Set em up. 12/3/2009 4:51:05 PM |