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6/16/2007 4:31:36 AM

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"There's no way that health insurance costs more than a mortgage."

Unless, of course, a health insurance company has denied you access in the first place.

6/16/2007 2:49:12 PM

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"Nobody is denying emergency care just because you can't pay for it. Sure it might bankrupt you, but you'd be alive. "

There, I fixed it for you.

6/16/2007 5:09:02 PM

everyone bitching about health care should go to Canada and stfu

6/16/2007 5:51:01 PM

^^ fair enough, but there are countries which do not provide any care unless you prove you can pay first. I think offering emergency care w/o proof of payment is quite generous, but I would rather not go beyond that because I would like to see the government mind its own buisness and not have too much of a say in my healthcare.

6/16/2007 6:00:59 PM

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"fair enough, but there are countries which do not provide any care unless you prove you can pay first. "

Which countries?

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Saw the movie earlier today. I'm not a fan of Michael Moore's documentaries generally, but I actually liked this one.

6/16/2007 6:28:25 PM

^ Sudan

6/17/2007 12:11:17 AM

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"everyone bitching about health care should go to Canada and stfu"

1. There's a lot of fun paperwork for living in Canada.
2. Specialties like dentistry aren't covered in the Medicare system, so they still have private health care prices

People keep looking to countries like Cuba to see how socialist health care has fucked up: well look at Scandinavian health care instead. Honestly, we could take a few lessons from the Finns and Swedes on how to create successful public health care systems.

6/17/2007 12:36:59 AM

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"everyone bitching about health care should go to Canada and stfu"

If something in America is wrong, we should all just run away and let our country devolve into a wasteland. Good suggestion bucko *two thumbs up*

6/17/2007 12:46:41 AM

the Swedish health care system isn't all that spectacular. i know a girl who accidentally cut herself while cooking and spent something like 7 hours waiting in the emergency room queue. also, you can only buy drugs (even OTC medicines like tylenol) in state-run pharmacies.

not to mention the taxes are super high in Sweden.

6/17/2007 12:48:52 AM

^ Well yeah, you have to get the money from somewhere. I don't see higher taxes as such a terrible thing if it'd help more people be able to afford health care. I guess Americans are too cheap to help each other out on that.

Also, she cut herself cooking? Call me crazy, but that doesn't sound like a serious injury.

6/17/2007 12:52:29 AM

call me crazy, but a real women knows how to cook and not cut herself

6/17/2007 1:00:35 AM

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"Honestly, we could take a few lessons from the Finns and Swedes on how to create successful public health care systems. "

I'd rather not be paying 60-70% in income tax so that the poor and injury prone can live happily.

6/17/2007 1:34:32 AM

i think it was bleeding pretty bad, but i'm not sure (i wasn't awake at the time).

although the taxes are high, Sweden undoubtedly has the highest standard of living i've seen anywhere... i want to live there one day.

6/17/2007 1:36:54 AM

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"Sudan"

Right...

Now that's something to be proud of...we're better than a country that's perpetually locked in Civil War. Woohoo!

6/17/2007 3:21:26 AM

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"I'd rather not be paying 60-70% in income tax so that the poor and injury prone can live happily."

and therein lies the problem. People dont want to pay more taxes, but they want the government to spend more money. Obviously there are places where we are spending money that could be better spent elsewhere but even so, expect higher taxes with more government regulated benefits.

6/17/2007 4:01:07 AM

http://www.virtualvideomap.com/Sicko.html


the whole movie

6/18/2007 1:10:49 PM

Moore like "Jowl sicko"

6/18/2007 10:06:10 PM

Good movie. watched it tonight. brought up some good points.

6/19/2007 5:02:28 AM

^^^^

He never claimed to want the government to spend more money.

Certainly, there is a lot wrong with our healthcare system, but putting it on the government to provide healthcare is not the answer. I think the VA healthcare system is proof of that.

And then there's the false belief that healthcare is a right, which is just more evidence that americans have a delusion-ally overdeveloped sense of entitlement.

6/19/2007 6:41:22 AM

Of course I don't want the government to spend more money. I'd like to see us get rid of medicaid and medicare while we're at it. The only people I think our government should have to be responsible for is medical coverage of wounded veterans, and we seem to be doing a really half-ass job of that at times.

6/19/2007 8:41:22 AM

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"Galaxy Cinema in Cary will be hosting a "Scrubs for SiCKO" event when the film opens on Friday, June 29. The 7 p.m. event will feature speakers from the California Nurses Association and National Nurses Organizing Committee, who will talk with moviegoers about why their organizations are getting involved with the message of "SiCKO.""

6/25/2007 2:56:50 PM

Those nurses need to shut up

we need fewer MOUTHY nurses

and more of these kind




Am I right?

6/25/2007 3:14:46 PM

I'd like to show this to my undergraduate Health Psychology class. Could I get myself or my university in major trouble by showing a version that I acquire from the internet? I might just have students go to the theater to see it and give them extra credit...

6/25/2007 3:15:55 PM

of course you'll get in trouble you fucking left wing pinko brainwashing our youth.

no, go ahead and steal copywritten material from the internet and then have public performances of it


Good Idea!

[Edited on June 25, 2007 at 3:17 PM. Reason : l]

6/25/2007 3:17:09 PM

^ haha... yeah, I quickly came to my senses after posting that. The theater it is.

6/25/2007 4:31:10 PM

Michael Moore publicly said that he isn't against pirated copies of this movie spreading to people as long as they aren't profiting from it.

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"Moore, 53, has been vocal in his support of downloading pirated movies as long as movie pirates don't profit."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Movies/06/18/sicko.net.ap/index.html

6/25/2007 4:41:46 PM

Yea but those JEWS the weinsteins will come down on anyone's ass to make a $

no matter what moore says, studios own the rights to the movie

6/25/2007 4:46:34 PM

^^ thanks, that is helpful. I think I better still eer on the side of caution so I don't get my ass fired. Someone could say that I am technically profiting since I am being payed by the University.

[Edited on June 25, 2007 at 4:47 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on June 25, 2007 at 4:48 PM. Reason : ..]

6/25/2007 4:47:20 PM

I just watched it.


I take everything Moore says with a grain of salt.



but it does make me want to do more research about socialized healthcare.

6/27/2007 5:21:01 PM

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"you can setup an hsa for as low as $53 a month with bcbs...that has a $5k deductible with 100% after $5k in case of anything catastrophic, but it's sure better than no insurance at all. "

yeah, but you would still be paying in full for any kind of doctor visit or prescription for a few years, but I guess it might be better than nothing at all

Recently, I was denied a general checkup at a new doctor for me because I didn't have health insurance because I just graduated and was removed from my parents' insurance. I offered to pay cash and they still denied me. I later found out that that is against the hippocratic oath and they could be reported. In sum, I'd like to say that I am disappointed in our health care system and insurance companies and will probably see this movie.

6/27/2007 10:31:35 PM

man i saw half of this on videosift, then it got deleted, anyone got a link?

6/27/2007 10:46:29 PM

I'm guessing this movie will bomb, it has NO marketing for it going on

6/27/2007 10:48:36 PM

Yeah I forgot about the huge marketing schemes for Bowling for Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11...

6/28/2007 12:31:48 AM

its a fucking documentary

let's hope malice was attempting sarcasm

6/28/2007 12:41:00 AM

SiCKO is opening tomorrow at Galaxy Cinema in Cary.

Showtimes:
1:15
4:00
7:00
9:35

We're having the California Nuses Association give a talk after the 7:00 show on Friday, so that should be pretty cool. I'd recommend buying tickets in advance--it's gonna be pretty busy this weekend.

6/28/2007 1:28:38 PM

what i think is funny is all these conservative videos coming out, all the attacks already on the film without anyone having even seen it

6/28/2007 4:57:19 PM

People have seen it. It's all over the internet, and there have been a few screenings.

6/28/2007 5:01:46 PM

I saw it yesterday, it was very good, but there were no earthshattering new informations, just a way of looking at ourselves, its more like a really good 20/20 special

6/28/2007 5:26:25 PM

Just got done seeing it - definitely the most revealing Michael Moore film to date. I was a huge fan of Bowling for Columbine but thought Fahrenheit 9/11 was too preachy. This tops both.

Just remember to show up early tomorrow as we'll be swamped all day. And I'd advise coming early for the night shows.

And to reiterate:

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"Showtimes: 1:15 4:00 7:00 9:35 We're having the California Nuses Association give a talk after the 7:00 show on Friday, so that should be pretty cool. I'd recommend buying tickets in advance--it's gonna be pretty busy this weekend."

6/29/2007 2:30:22 AM

better than Roger & Me?

6/29/2007 2:37:25 AM

^ I can't say, I only had Roger & Me described to me. All I will say is that I think the relevance is probably more widespread.

6/29/2007 2:45:57 AM

Roger and Me is hard to beat but I'll check this out when I get back into town Tuesday night. I'm glad this weekend is part of my vacation.

[Edited on June 29, 2007 at 11:05 AM. Reason : VACATION]

6/29/2007 11:04:12 AM

Everybody loves this movie, but if one more person tells me I look "JUST LIKE MICHAEL MOORE" I'll tear their fucking eyes out.

Showtimes at Galaxy this week are 1:15, 4:15, 7:10, and 9:35.

7/6/2007 6:29:35 PM

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"I'd rather not be paying 60-70% in income tax so that the poor and injury prone can live happily."

i don't exactly agree with this, but i'd say it more like this:
"I'd rather not be paying 60-70% in income tax so that people that are already bumming off the government (aka taxpayers) and people that just do stupid things to themselves (let's say, people that drive drunk, perform other acts for no other reason than to be stupid) can take the benefits that my future children should get to have from my hard labor."

7/6/2007 6:34:28 PM

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"I was a huge fan of Bowling for Columbine but thought Fahrenheit 9/11 was too preachy."

this sums up my sentiments exactly and if you ever read a book of his, they went the same way. roger and me and bowling were both great and this is up there with them. there's only so much whiney fahrenheit i could take.

[Edited on July 6, 2007 at 10:48 PM. Reason : i prefer him on specific causes rather than general politics]

7/6/2007 10:48:30 PM

the US Postal Service seems like a great model for a socialized health system

its basically the same concept anyways isnt it?

7/9/2007 4:41:14 PM

medicare

medicaid

it's all socialized medicine

7/9/2007 4:51:37 PM

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"Half Of Nation Outraged At New, Not-Yet-Released Michael Moore Film June 18, 2007 | Issue 43•25 WASHINGTON, DC—Though the film isn't scheduled for release until June 29, a New York Times/CBS News poll found that nearly half the nation believes Michael Moore's new health care documentary Sicko is "unpatriotic," "disgusting," and "ill-informed." "This film is absolutely tasteless and misguided, and I can't believe theaters are even showing it," said GOP presidential candidate Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS), who, along with the rest of the nation, has not yet seen the film. "I thought the role of a documentary filmmaker was to be objective, but moviegoers are going to leave the theater thinking that there is something wrong with some part of the United States, and that is just flat-out untrue." The other half of the nation has praised Sicko, calling it a "real eye-opener" that would "challenge people's preconceived notions.""

http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/half_of_nation_outraged_at

lol

7/10/2007 5:15:56 PM

attn: all, america is perfect. that is all.

7/10/2007 5:32:34 PM