also, if you like ps3 you're associated with fags like ^ who write final fantasy in large fonts

6/22/2007 5:19:30 PM

what kind of person doesnt like Grand Theft Auto 4?

6/22/2007 5:23:35 PM

hahaha

6/22/2007 5:29:37 PM

I played GTA 3 and I found the gameplay clunky. Targeting was weak, weapons weren't fun to use, and I don't care much for 'realistic' driving. The alternate stuff (ambulance driving, vigilante missions, and taxi driving) didn't interest me either. Reviews for the sequels say those flaws remain, so I haven't bothered to pick them up.

6/22/2007 7:34:10 PM

FOLDING

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HOME!!

6/22/2007 7:43:49 PM

Quote :

"Xbox 360 has the WORST reliability I've ever seen from a game console."

I've never ever had any kind of problem whatsoever with my 2nd shipment console

6/22/2007 8:14:24 PM

I bought a ps3. Not any games out other than mlb 07, but I got it for ncaa and madden. The bluray is a nice touch, even my wife notices the difference. The planet earth set is AMAZING.

6/22/2007 8:20:23 PM

i think these multi-sendbacks are the vocal minority. microsofts first string of 360's definitely was messed up, but the quality seems to have picked up since then. my first box lasted a year and then died, but my 2nd one is going strong and didnt cost me a penny.

that said, whoever said the 360 had no good exclusives on the way is just silly. warhawk and lair will probably be a bust, looking at the reviews/previews. things like Bioshock, Mass Effect, Too Human, Lost Odyssey, and Halo 3 all look excellent. Others like Blue Dragon, Quake Wars (oh please god), Fable 2, etc should be good as well.

6/22/2007 9:49:02 PM

i had one of the first 360's and i haven't had a problem at all

(knock on wood)

6/23/2007 2:46:59 PM

6/24/2007 10:06:43 AM

not funny

6/24/2007 11:36:53 AM

shoulda known that when you saw ctrl-alt-del

6/24/2007 11:57:04 AM

Final Fantasy games kind of suck.

I think people who love final fantasy have never played a good western style RPG.

6/25/2007 12:39:21 AM

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"I think people who love final fantasy have never played a good western style RPG. get laid "

sorry i had to take that fantasy RPG cliche' and put it to use

[Edited on June 25, 2007 at 1:39 AM. Reason : ...]

6/25/2007 1:38:51 AM

http://infotech.indiatimes.com/Nintendo_beats_Sony_in_market_value/articleshow/2146128.cms

[link]message_topic.aspx?topic=118820[link]

6/25/2007 2:32:33 AM

Quote :

"warhawk and lair will probably be a bust, looking at the reviews/previews. things like Bioshock, Mass Effect, Too Human, Lost Odyssey, and Halo 3 all look excellent. Others like Blue Dragon, Quake Wars (oh please god), Fable 2, etc should be good as well."

I have been beta testing Warhawk and its fun as hell. Haven't read any poor reviews on it. I think Lair may be a bust though, who knows? Somehow you do though, and you also know that all the exclusive 360 games will be great. Bias?

By the way, Calling All Cars is one of the most fun multiplayer games I have ever played, and it only cost me $10 and online is free. This and knowing that David Jaffe will be releasing more of these smaller scale online games gets me excited. Having Incognito and Insomniac exclusively for Sony is rpetty huge I think. They always release awesome games.

6/25/2007 9:30:12 AM

Didn't they say 360's had a failure rate of about 30%?

6/25/2007 11:32:49 AM

Quote :

"I had a Packard Bell that died so I reckon all PCs are shitty"

great rebuttal, except for the fact that Packard Bell is not the exclusive manufacturer of PCs.

6/25/2007 11:56:49 AM

yep, 360 is definitely not a "cheap system that tends to break easily":

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=18394


feel free to tack on the widespread 3 rings of death scenario (with the solder coming loose off the BGAs), the firmware update that bricked a huge number of consoles, and the scratching discs that MS is in denial about.

6/26/2007 12:50:53 PM

^turns out it is

Quote :

"due do an issue with a video."

go figure.

6/26/2007 1:10:50 PM

does xbox elite play hd dvds?

6/27/2007 1:18:40 AM

Quote :

"does xbox elite play hd dvds?"

Not without the HD Player purchased separately. I think I read somewhere that the player will be coming out in black, but at the rate they're putting out Elites (2 shipments to my Gamestop since their release) I'm not so sure.

6/27/2007 12:09:24 PM

seriously, how can somebody not like the grand theft auto games

6/27/2007 12:10:01 PM

With the $200 HD-DVD addon, yes.

6/27/2007 12:18:47 PM

http://kotaku.com/gaming/red-ring-of-death/a-dozen-xbox-360s-one-mans-tale-of-woe-272602.php

he's only on #12

6/27/2007 12:53:19 PM

wait so what exactly is a 360 elite? just a black 360 with a hard drive?

i thought the whole point of making the elite was for hd movies

6/27/2007 5:01:31 PM

bttt

6/28/2007 2:59:14 AM

the dude at best buy was telling me something about the elite looking better because of (some special hd feature it had??) that the normal 360 doesnt have. im not really sure what he was talking about though

6/28/2007 4:51:22 AM

It has an HDMI port, which gives uncompressed HD video.

6/28/2007 11:28:43 AM

which of course only matters if you buy the HD-DVD for $200...all games are compressed

6/28/2007 11:32:47 AM

eh? I haven't heard anything about games being compressed.

[Edited on June 28, 2007 at 12:16 PM. Reason : .]

6/28/2007 12:16:00 PM

What good are HD-DVDs anymore? You can't even rent them from blockbuster.

6/28/2007 12:30:07 PM

^^ "compressed" isn't really the right terminology.

X360 games + movies get 'scaled' which simply means the 360 renders them in (usually) 720p or 1080i, then that signal then gets scaled by a seperate chip (a dedicated scaler in the 360's case) before it gets output over HDMI.


The HDMI port enables you to output a 1080p signal to your TV. But really, you're dealing with the same source signal as you would over VGA/Component. There is probably not much difference in quality.

[Edited on June 28, 2007 at 2:25 PM. Reason : d]

6/28/2007 2:23:44 PM

^ Unlike the PS3, which actually outputs in true 1080p, no upscaling (as long as the game is actually 1080p).

The reason why the video in the games get compressed so much is because the data is on DVDs, which doesn't hold nearly as much as nextgen media (bluray, HDDVD). PS3 games are on Bluray, so they can store as much as about 55 Gigs.

6/28/2007 2:34:40 PM

yeah, so maybe compressed wasn't exactly right. but you're still just getting upscaled video that has been made to fit on a DVD. It's doesn't look bad, but you can certainly tell the difference between a blu-ray movie on the PS3 and a normal DVD that's upscaled.

6/28/2007 2:52:35 PM

our kids' generation is going to think 1080i looks like garbage

6/28/2007 3:07:53 PM

Somewhat relevant, but I definitely still play my modded xbox. Going through and beating Halo 1 on legedary for the unteenth time is always fun. So...XBOX 360 FTW due to my Halo bias.

6/28/2007 3:46:30 PM

^^thinking of what games were like when i was a kid compared to now.....i can't even imagine.

i figure they won't even use TV's at all by then. All virtual reality....you scrap on a helmet or whatever and you are in the actual game.

Man I am going to be 80 years old and still playing video games......lol

6/28/2007 3:57:26 PM

6/28/2007 4:07:33 PM

http://www.360-gamer.com/news.asp?id=1143
http://www.smarthouse.com.au/Home/D3Q7G8S2?page=1

6/28/2007 4:20:34 PM

yep, mine has failed and I'm going to have to send it back.

But I would still rather have it than a PS3, because when I get it back, at least I will have something to play.

6/28/2007 4:23:07 PM

real original! of course, we all remember those bad ass 360 games that were out in the first 6 months of it's release...oh wait

i have played resistance, godfather, mlb07, tony hawk, motorstorm, and virtua tennis on the PS3 and loved them all. just because lair or heavenly sword or white knight hasn't come out yet doesn't mean they won't

6/28/2007 4:38:47 PM

it's been more like 8 months now.

6/28/2007 5:23:16 PM

lolz. A repair shop is refusing to even deal with X360s anymore, due to a "base manufacturing problem that potentially affects all X360s":

http://feeds.joystiq.com/~r/weblogsinc/joystiq/~3/129007400/

6/29/2007 1:34:08 PM

Quote :

"I have been beta testing Warhawk and its fun as hell. Haven't read any poor reviews on it. I think Lair may be a bust though, who knows? Somehow you do though, and you also know that all the exclusive 360 games will be great. Bias? By the way, Calling All Cars is one of the most fun multiplayer games I have ever played, and it only cost me $10 and online is free. This and knowing that David Jaffe will be releasing more of these smaller scale online games gets me excited. Having Incognito and Insomniac exclusively for Sony is rpetty huge I think. They always release awesome games."

twist my words much. i said that those many 360 titles all LOOKED excellent. i read one preview of lair (i forget if it was ign, gamespot, or something else) that said they were relatively disappointed with it. i didnt really expect it to be good either. warhawk looks alright, but fighting helicopters seems like a niche market to me.

im glad you like calling all cars. im sure it is good, but there are a variety of good Live Arcade games too. Lumines, Geometry Wars, Alien Hominid, Small Arms, etc are all fun. I look forward to Puzzle Quest and a few others as well.

6/29/2007 1:53:07 PM

OK, so 8 months in, the 360 had what? dead rising and halo 2?

6/29/2007 1:59:14 PM

Halo 2 was on the original Xbox

6/29/2007 2:01:39 PM

oh yeah

6/29/2007 2:08:15 PM

Quote :

"twist my words much. i said that those many 360 titles all LOOKED excellent. i read one preview of lair (i forget if it was ign, gamespot, or something else) that said they were relatively disappointed with it. i didnt really expect it to be good either. warhawk looks alright, but fighting helicopters seems like a niche market to me."

Warhawk is the same kind of game as Battlefield, where you can run around on foot, drive land vehicles or fly a plane. Given the popularity of those games, calling it a niche market is kind of silly.

As far as Lair, I havn't seen any previews calling it "t3h best game ev4r" but most of have given pretty positive impressions. The only negative I've seen is people questioning how well flying around using the Sixaxis tilt controls will work. I mean, come on, it's made by the same people who made all the Rogue Leader/Rogue Squadron games, which, while not always excellent were consistently solid releases. I'm sure it won't suck.

6/29/2007 3:44:30 PM

i stand corrected on warhawk, since it didnt look like much from the early videos. with the exception of panzer dragoon there hasnt been any good dragon flying games that i can think of though. rogue squadron was great, but we'll see.

and to answer goalielax's question, the 360 had a lot of big games in 8 months:

GRAW is considered a great action game
Oblivion is considered a great rpg
Dead or Alive 4 is considered a good/great fighter
Dead Rising is fun
Saints Row wasn't superb, but it definitely satisfied its market at the time
Fight Night 3 was multiplatform but best on 360, particularly looks wise
Table Tenis is fun
Top Spin is great if you like tenis

6/29/2007 10:17:25 PM