7/19/2007 2:26:43 PM

This is trash salisburyboy. I'm all for your freedom of speech here, but I'm not sure that this topic is even chit chat worthy. Its on par with that terrible "Fugly Jew" thread that you made a while back.

If you get a chance, please address my refutation of your claims.

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"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer and impossible to ignore. The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used against them -- except force."

There is no argument here. It's you throwing a hissy fit over an elderly jewish woman complaining about airport security. You're constant use of the censorship card whenever questioned is pretty compelling evidence of the bankruptcy of your claims.

[Edited on July 19, 2007 at 2:29 PM. Reason : .]

7/19/2007 2:27:30 PM

i didn't really think of that

this really is more of a chit chat thread

perhaps it should be locked or moved

7/19/2007 2:32:56 PM

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"This is trash salisburyboy. I'm all for your freedom of speech here, but I'm not sure that this topic is even chit chat worthy."

No you're not. It doesn't matter how many times you may lie and say you are. If you advocate censorship, then you're not.

If this topic is so "unworthy of discussion", then why did the Jewish news organization publish and article on it??

You guys are just desperate for ANY excuse to try to silence my voice.

7/19/2007 2:38:14 PM

Why are you reading Jewish media if you hate Jews so much?

7/19/2007 2:40:13 PM

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"If this topic is so "unworthy of discussion", then why did the Jewish news organization publish and article on it??"

yeah cause all those news stories about Paris Hilton are worthy of discussion simply because a news organization published "and" article on it

7/19/2007 2:41:22 PM

THE HOAXACAUST IS A VERBOTIN TOPIC

LOCK!!
CENSOR!!!
SUSPEND!!!!!
TERMINATE!!!!!

KILL FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

7/19/2007 2:41:49 PM

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"If this topic is so "unworthy of discussion", then why did the Jewish news organization publish and article on it??"

yeah cause all those news stories about Paris Hilton are worthy of discussion simply because a news organization published "and" article on it

7/19/2007 2:44:54 PM

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"a news organization published "and" article on it "

spelling police!

You think I didn't see that? I just didn't bother to edit it because it isn't a big deal. But the desperate SB trolls will find any little issue they can (of the very few they are right on).

7/19/2007 2:46:02 PM

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"No you're not. It doesn't matter how many times you may lie and say you are. If you advocate censorship, then you're not."

When did I advocate censorship? That's like another blatant lie from you.

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"If this topic is so "unworthy of discussion", then why did the Jewish news organization publish and article on it??"

An Israeli news source published an article about an Israeli woman having trouble at an American airport. There is some relevance to their Israeli audience.

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"You guys are just desperate for ANY excuse to try to silence my voice."

You're desperate for any excuse to bring up censorship. I'll repeat what I said earlier: I'm all for your freedom of speech here, but I'm not sure that this topic is even chit chat worthy.

What is there to discuss about this story? When you first posted it the only original comment that you could think to add was "ROTFLMFAO". I have no issue with you posting this. However, it belongs in Chit Chat, not the Soap Box.

Grow up you little cry baby.

7/19/2007 2:46:29 PM

^^who cares about spelling

the point is just because somebody publishes an article doesnt mean its newsworthy

[Edited on July 19, 2007 at 2:47 PM. Reason : ^^]

7/19/2007 2:46:56 PM

just because the story is funny doesn't mean it doesn't facilitate or warrant serious discussion

7/19/2007 2:49:18 PM

What is there to discuss about it? You can't even make an intelligent comment about it.

Instead you hijacked your own thread and tried to turn it into another anti-Holocaust thread in which you refuse to defend your ideas.

7/19/2007 2:50:28 PM

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"Instead you hijacked your own thread and tried to turn it into another anti-Holocaust thread"

what a fucking joke

the story itself brought up the issue of the Hoaxacaust

7/19/2007 2:51:48 PM

The story made a tangential reference to it in passing, but nice try at misdirection.

Your refusal to discuss facts and instead bitch about "censorship" is the joke here, little buddy.

7/19/2007 2:54:30 PM

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"The story made a tangential reference to it in passing, but nice try at misdirection. Your refusal to discuss facts and instead bitch about "censorship" is the joke here, little buddy. "

It was obviously more than a "tangential reference." It was a major part of the story.

And nice try at slipping that lie/deception by us....and then trying to brush it off once I exposed it by trying to change the subject back to railing against me for objecting to those advocating my censorship.

7/19/2007 2:58:43 PM

No, see the entire "his opinions are valid" stance is a farce. He's not really contributing anything new by posting links and typing "ROFTLMAO" or just link spamming in general. He doesn't address any argument against him in a rational way but instead tosses out generalizations and more link bombs- all of which, by the way, are to garbage websites that themselves are heavily biased.

7/19/2007 2:59:03 PM

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"No, see the entire "his opinions are valid" stance is a farce. He's not really contributing anything new by posting links and typing "ROFTLMAO" or just link spamming in general. He doesn't address any argument against him in a rational way but instead tosses out generalizations and more link bombs- all of which, by the way, are to garbage websites that themselves are heavily biased."

objecting to my debate/posting style (even though you are misrepresenting it there) is hardly
a legitimate reason for censorship

7/19/2007 3:01:09 PM

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"just because the story is funny doesn't mean it doesn't facilitate or warrant serious discussion"

serious discussion? in a TSB thread created by you? yeah good luck with that

7/19/2007 3:01:12 PM

this thread has hit a nerve (ie, because it questions the hoaxacaust)

the SB trolls are out in force desperately whoring and whining for my censorship

you guys are SO pathetic

7/19/2007 3:02:51 PM

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"My family perished in the gas chambers in Europe. I never believed that 65 years later, I would be marked, isolated and taken into a gas chamber."

Thats all that it says about the Holocaust, little buddy. It is not a major part of the story at all. The story doesn't even mention the Holocaust by name.

Once again you are scrambling to cover your ass.

However, I'm curious: How many of your threads haven't ended up with you bitching about censorship and refusing to discuss your ideas?

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"objecting to my debate/posting style"

Your debate style? When do you ever debate, coward?

7/19/2007 3:03:24 PM

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"coward?"

LOL

7/19/2007 3:04:16 PM

this thread questions the holocaust? i didnt know that...i thought it was just one ignorant woman and a news story that blew nothing out of proportion

but continue your pathetic defensive banter about how everyone is out to get you and censor you...it IS a slow news day after all...mike vick is the main story

7/19/2007 3:04:37 PM

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"LOL"

Clever response. It fits right in with your pattern of lies, slander, and pretending to be a victim.

I'm still waiting for a response to my refutation of your claims regarding Rudolph Hoess on the last page. That is, of course, unless you're afraid of a debate.

7/19/2007 3:08:04 PM

how much do they pay you to troll this forum joshua?

7/19/2007 3:12:31 PM

25 Rules of Disinformation

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"5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as "kooks", "right-wing", "liberal", "left-wing", "terrorists", "conspiracy buffs", "radicals", "militia", "racists", "religious fanatics", "sexual deviates", and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues. 7. Question motives. Twist or amplify any fact which could so taken to imply that the opponent operates out of a hidden personal agenda or other bias. This avoids discussing issues and forces the accuser on the defensive. 9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues with denial they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect."

"I'm still waiting for a response to my refutation of your claims regarding Rudolph Hoess on the last page. That is, of course, unless you're afraid of a debate."

[Edited on July 19, 2007 at 3:17 PM. Reason : .]

7/19/2007 3:16:22 PM

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"I'm still waiting for a response to my refutation of your claims regarding Rudolph Hoess on the last page."

wait

I thought you were calling this thread "trash" and basically unworthy of discussion


but a troll uses every opportunity to harass his target

7/19/2007 3:19:14 PM

The topic of a woman complaining about airport security is unworthy of discussion. However, you
did repeat some wild and unrelated claims that you have refused to discuss on many occasions.

Stop trying so hard to be a victim and man up for once in your life.

7/19/2007 3:21:30 PM

stop being such an establishment shill

7/19/2007 3:22:21 PM

You really can't do anything except paste articles and then slander anyone who questions them,
can you?

The lengths that you go to in order to avoid a simple discussion amaze me. Do you not believe
your own ideas or are you just not bright enough to defend them?

Man up, coward.

7/19/2007 3:26:02 PM

Now, both of these are very ridiculous, but which one do we think is more so?

1) A foreign Jewish woman who feels oppressed in the US.
2) A native-born white Christian male who feels oppressed in the US.

7/19/2007 3:27:48 PM

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"and then slander anyone "

calling a spade a spade isn't slander

it's telling it like it is

7/19/2007 3:27:51 PM

So in your little world anyone who questions you is a troll?

You really are a sheltered little cry baby. Man up, son.

7/19/2007 3:43:46 PM

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"So in your little world anyone who questions you is a troll? "

Of course not.

I'm talking about the specific posters who are calling for censorship...the usual suspects
whom I know through experience are, in fact, trolls.

7/19/2007 3:47:23 PM

I've never called for censorship, yet you resort to calling me a troll whenever I raise legitimate
arguments to your ideas.

Your bullshit knows no bounds.

7/19/2007 3:49:55 PM

you're not fooling anyone mr joshua

at least not anyone with more than 2 functioning brain cells

7/19/2007 3:54:34 PM

Fooling anyone about what?

You've obviously backed yourself into a corner, little buddy.

7/19/2007 3:59:57 PM

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"Fooling anyone about what?"

In regards to virtually any issue you take a position on...eg, your pro-illegal immigration stance, your stance in favor of the "official" 9/11 story, etc

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"You've obviously backed yourself into a corner, little buddy."

a troll can dream can't he?

7/19/2007 4:04:38 PM

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"In regards to virtually any issue you take a position on...eg, your pro-illegal immigration stance, your stance in favor of the "official" 9/11 story, etc"

Fooling people about what in relation to those?

You're not even making sense at this point.

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"a troll can dream can't he?"

Once again you're lashing out in desperation.

[Edited on July 19, 2007 at 4:06 PM. Reason : .]

7/19/2007 4:05:53 PM

hahaha

7/19/2007 4:06:36 PM

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"You're not even making sense at this point."

7/19/2007 4:06:50 PM

do you reallly lack reading comprehension?

or do you really think we're all as stupid as you hope?

7/19/2007 4:07:46 PM

I'm a little late on this:

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"Mr. Joshua: It makes it abundantly clear that this involves a single person who was offended and filed a complaint. It says absolutely nothing about the jewish community taking offense."

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"Zilberman filed a complaint with the Foreign Ministry on the matter, and sources at the ministry said they would discuss the subject with the Americans, while adding that the number of Israeli complaints of treatment at American airports has recently been on the rise."

A lot of the Jews really do stick together. They apparently keep track of complaints against American
airports. Anyway, there's nothing wrong with any of this, but don't pretend like this isn't about the
Jewish community. It's always about the community, and how they feel they're being treated,
and what others need to do to get in line with appropriate treatment...cause remember the
Holocaust? And you can't criticize them for anything...cause remember the Holocaust?

I think they have good reason to be super vigilant, but boy does it get old.

[Edited on July 19, 2007 at 4:11 PM. Reason : sss]

7/19/2007 4:09:43 PM

What am I trying to fool people about? Your posts are making less and less sense.

I've never tried to fool anyone little buddy. At this point you're just trying to take attention off of yourself.

7/19/2007 4:11:29 PM

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"What am I trying to fool people about? Your posts are making less and less sense. I've never tried to fool anyone little buddy."

All the denial and lying in the world won't help Joshua.

Anyone who has significant experience with you can plainly see what
you are...ie, an establishment shill. You take the establishment (and wrong)
position on virtually every issue (eg, the "war on terror" fraud, 9/11, illegal
immigration, etc). You intentionally try to maniputlate people into supporting
the frauds & lies of the government/establishment. But it's failing MISERABLY.
Distrust of the establishment/government/MSM is at ALL TIME HIGHS.

I didn't have to articulate this in a post. Everyone can see what you are.

7/19/2007 4:17:43 PM

i went through one of this air puff machines in the gulfport airport. Everyone has to go through them in that airport. There is no possible way these air puffs could have injured her in any way. And the one i went through wasn't even sealed and the air puffs lasted no more than 10 seconds.

7/19/2007 4:22:38 PM

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"NO!! SHE WAS TRAUMATIZED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

7/19/2007 4:25:58 PM

What exactly do you think you're articulating? I've never tried to manipulate anyone or even
presented a position. I've never promoted one side of an issue in your threads, rather I've simply
pointed out your errors and supplied supporting evidence. I get bored at work so I attempt to
debate you. Invariably you ignore my posts, slander me, or paste an article that is tangentially
related and then log off. This is a discussion board, yet you never attempt to have a discussion.

Now you're just lashing out at me in desperation and attempting to construct some shady motive
for my posting.

25 Rules of Disinformation

Quote :

"7. Question motives. Twist or amplify any fact which could so taken to imply that the opponent operates out of a hidden personal agenda or other bias. This avoids discussing issues and forces the accuser on the defensive."

7/19/2007 4:26:52 PM

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"I've never tried to manipulate anyone or even presented a position. I've never promoted one side of an issue in your threads"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!



again, you're not fooling anyone joshua

and your lies are getting beyond ridiculous at this point

you need to hire one of the upper level shills to sharpen your disinfo tactics

7/19/2007 4:30:19 PM

salisburyboy.......is a JOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thats why there is all this self loathing. like most jews he is insecure

7/19/2007 4:33:09 PM