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qntmfred
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page 2 says no more assplay

7/20/2007 1:16:37 PM

Stein
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Again, that mongoloid browser is the only reason you can attempt to do what it is you're trying to do.

7/20/2007 1:17:21 PM

BigMan157
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i mean that's great and all

it truly is

but that doesn't mean it's not a pile of dung

i appreciate Homo habilis for getting up off his ass and learning to walk, but just because he did all the legwork to invent it doesn't make him the best goddamn sprinter ever

7/20/2007 1:30:06 PM

Shrike
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All this makes me so glad I only develop for internally used web apps where we can force everyone to use the same browser

7/20/2007 1:32:29 PM

joe_schmoe
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^^ Netscape (Mozilla) was the original graphical WWW browser, i believe... i mean, at least it predates IE. and FF is the direct descendent of that original Netscape, since the current Netscape is an AOL abomination.

7/20/2007 2:40:17 PM

qntmfred
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^ almost.

NCSA Mosaic was the first graphical www browser. one of the co-authors of Mosaic left NCSA and later formed Mosaic Communications Corporation to develop the Mosaic browser technology into a commercial product. Mosaic Communications Corporation was later renamed Netscape Communications and developed Netscape Navigator

7/20/2007 2:46:02 PM

joe_schmoe
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oh, yeah... Mosaic. i remember that one. it was a legacy browser still available in EOS labs in the mid 90's





[Edited on July 20, 2007 at 3:38 PM. Reason : ]

7/20/2007 3:34:41 PM

WolfAce
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signed

7/20/2007 6:01:51 PM

qntmfred
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turns out Firefox is subject to the same security "flaw" that they were complaining about with IE
http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=396
http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2007/07/20/hey-mozilla-quotes-are-not-legal-in-a-url.aspx

7/24/2007 12:21:00 AM

Noen
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Preach on Stein.

It's funny, I just made my first website in almost three years over the past few weeks.

It's also funny hearing people say they have to make multiple style sheets for each browser. AHahahAhaHA.


Dude, the last major web app I did (2004 mind you) supported IE5.01, 5.5, 6.0, 6.1, FF 1.4 on up, Opera 7.54+, Safari, IE 5.2 for the Mac, Avanti, and several other retarded browsers. And I'm talking pixel perfect support.

Completely xhtml compliant, css 2.0 compliant, wcag, section 508 and xml compliant. One stylesheet. And fuck if it wasn't the most retardedly complex site.



Now, I just made this little portfolio site in a week. Plopped in the code, checked it a couple of times in Firefox, IE7/IE6 and Safari for windows. Done. No hacks, no bullshit. It's not hard people.

7/26/2007 3:11:37 AM

qntmfred
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http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071011-microsoft-changes-mind-agrees-to-fix-ies-uri-handler.html

so only a few months after the whole thing fades from everybody's memory...

10/11/2007 11:31:47 PM

Golovko
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every major site should add a stylesheet that hides everything on a page if its any version of IE and only display a link for firefox

at work i have to support all browsers and i've found IE to be the most tricky but i've found a work around for everything problem i've encountered so its really not so bad

10/11/2007 11:41:59 PM

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whats the best tabbed browsing add-on for IE6?

10/12/2007 12:06:25 AM

Golovko
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IE7

10/12/2007 12:17:01 AM

drunknloaded
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ie6 even has tabbed browsing?

10/12/2007 12:21:58 AM

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^^
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"add-on for IE6"

I'd go IE7 or Firefox if i could, but they aren't "approved" by the man who issues my paycheck.

^ no, you have to use a add-on to get that functionality.

10/12/2007 1:10:36 AM

Golovko
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^I was being sarcastic. There is no reason to stick with IE 6 and not upgrade to 7....especially if you want tabs.

10/12/2007 8:59:47 AM

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Quote :
"There is no reason to stick with IE 6 and not upgrade to 7....especially if you want tabs"


I fully agree with you, but as I said, IE7 is not an option.

10/12/2007 9:08:41 AM

Stein
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I'd take IE6 over IE7 any day.

10/12/2007 9:34:48 AM

quagmire02
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^^ avant browser

[Edited on October 12, 2007 at 9:36 AM. Reason : .]

10/12/2007 9:36:24 AM

Golovko
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I'd take IE 5 over IE 6 anyday.

10/12/2007 9:58:32 AM

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I'd take NeXTStep over IE5 anyday.

10/12/2007 10:02:43 AM

puppy
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eh, I prefer not to ever use IE. Firefox, ftw!!!
I have IE7, but rarely use it.

10/12/2007 1:51:41 PM

Fry
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all i know is, from a graphics standpoint... a lot of gradients and colors render like balls in IE, even in IE7

10/12/2007 2:39:56 PM

Shaggy
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IE 6 is better than IE7 because IE6 and windows explorer are the same thing.

I used to have problems with the IE7 interface but i managed to get rid of all the stuff i didn't want thru some reg edits. its still not as customizable as I want, but atleast it makes it usable on Vista or any other machine with IE7.

10/12/2007 3:05:57 PM

gs7
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http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable

doesn't require installation on the computer, run it off a flash drive if you want

10/12/2007 4:54:06 PM

Stein
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"all i know is, from a graphics standpoint... a lot of gradients and colors render like balls in IE, even in IE7"


What?

10/12/2007 5:08:20 PM

Golovko
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that is true. especially png files.

10/12/2007 5:10:58 PM

philihp
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"The fact that Microsoft left IE6 stagnate for so long by not supporting PNG images with alpha channels is just amazing. What a nightmare the lack of PNG support caused web designers. Sigh."


what are you talking about? You can use the PNG alpha channel in IE. I believe this was introduced in 5.5, before any of you kids had even heard of the name Mozilla. Granted, it wasn't easy to use, it was still there. And it was first to market.

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"YEARS ago, i hated firefox, but that was because my coding was sub-par...nowadays, IE just pisses the hell out of me because it can't seem to read code correctly (and yes, i'm sure my code is correct)"


It's not difficult to write cross-platform code. It takes more time, this is true, but this is true for writing cross-platform C++ code as well. It's not an easy task. What I gather, is that you knew how to write code for IE, but not Firefox, then learned how to write code for Firefox and forgot how to code for IE, but you blame the browsers. IE didn't change, it has been the same spyware-ridden browser since 2001.

10/13/2007 12:42:30 AM

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