qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
page 2 says no more assplay 7/20/2007 1:16:37 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Again, that mongoloid browser is the only reason you can attempt to do what it is you're trying to do. 7/20/2007 1:17:21 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
i mean that's great and all
it truly is
but that doesn't mean it's not a pile of dung
i appreciate Homo habilis for getting up off his ass and learning to walk, but just because he did all the legwork to invent it doesn't make him the best goddamn sprinter ever 7/20/2007 1:30:06 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
All this makes me so glad I only develop for internally used web apps where we can force everyone to use the same browser 7/20/2007 1:32:29 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Netscape (Mozilla) was the original graphical WWW browser, i believe... i mean, at least it predates IE. and FF is the direct descendent of that original Netscape, since the current Netscape is an AOL abomination. 7/20/2007 2:40:17 PM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
^ almost.
NCSA Mosaic was the first graphical www browser. one of the co-authors of Mosaic left NCSA and later formed Mosaic Communications Corporation to develop the Mosaic browser technology into a commercial product. Mosaic Communications Corporation was later renamed Netscape Communications and developed Netscape Navigator 7/20/2007 2:46:02 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
oh, yeah... Mosaic. i remember that one. it was a legacy browser still available in EOS labs in the mid 90's
[Edited on July 20, 2007 at 3:38 PM. Reason : ] 7/20/2007 3:34:41 PM |
WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
signed 7/20/2007 6:01:51 PM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
turns out Firefox is subject to the same security "flaw" that they were complaining about with IE http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=396 http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2007/07/20/hey-mozilla-quotes-are-not-legal-in-a-url.aspx
7/24/2007 12:21:00 AM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
Preach on Stein.
It's funny, I just made my first website in almost three years over the past few weeks.
It's also funny hearing people say they have to make multiple style sheets for each browser. AHahahAhaHA.
Dude, the last major web app I did (2004 mind you) supported IE5.01, 5.5, 6.0, 6.1, FF 1.4 on up, Opera 7.54+, Safari, IE 5.2 for the Mac, Avanti, and several other retarded browsers. And I'm talking pixel perfect support.
Completely xhtml compliant, css 2.0 compliant, wcag, section 508 and xml compliant. One stylesheet. And fuck if it wasn't the most retardedly complex site.
Now, I just made this little portfolio site in a week. Plopped in the code, checked it a couple of times in Firefox, IE7/IE6 and Safari for windows. Done. No hacks, no bullshit. It's not hard people. 7/26/2007 3:11:37 AM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071011-microsoft-changes-mind-agrees-to-fix-ies-uri-handler.html
so only a few months after the whole thing fades from everybody's memory... 10/11/2007 11:31:47 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
every major site should add a stylesheet that hides everything on a page if its any version of IE and only display a link for firefox
at work i have to support all browsers and i've found IE to be the most tricky but i've found a work around for everything problem i've encountered so its really not so bad 10/11/2007 11:41:59 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
whats the best tabbed browsing add-on for IE6? 10/12/2007 12:06:25 AM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
IE7 10/12/2007 12:17:01 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
ie6 even has tabbed browsing? 10/12/2007 12:21:58 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I'd go IE7 or Firefox if i could, but they aren't "approved" by the man who issues my paycheck.
^ no, you have to use a add-on to get that functionality.10/12/2007 1:10:36 AM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
^I was being sarcastic. There is no reason to stick with IE 6 and not upgrade to 7....especially if you want tabs. 10/12/2007 8:59:47 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "There is no reason to stick with IE 6 and not upgrade to 7....especially if you want tabs" |
I fully agree with you, but as I said, IE7 is not an option.10/12/2007 9:08:41 AM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
I'd take IE6 over IE7 any day. 10/12/2007 9:34:48 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
^^ avant browser
[Edited on October 12, 2007 at 9:36 AM. Reason : .] 10/12/2007 9:36:24 AM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
I'd take IE 5 over IE 6 anyday. 10/12/2007 9:58:32 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
I'd take NeXTStep over IE5 anyday. 10/12/2007 10:02:43 AM |
puppy All American 8888 Posts user info edit post |
eh, I prefer not to ever use IE. Firefox, ftw!!! I have IE7, but rarely use it. 10/12/2007 1:51:41 PM |
Fry The Stubby 7784 Posts user info edit post |
all i know is, from a graphics standpoint... a lot of gradients and colors render like balls in IE, even in IE7 10/12/2007 2:39:56 PM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
IE 6 is better than IE7 because IE6 and windows explorer are the same thing.
I used to have problems with the IE7 interface but i managed to get rid of all the stuff i didn't want thru some reg edits. its still not as customizable as I want, but atleast it makes it usable on Vista or any other machine with IE7. 10/12/2007 3:05:57 PM |
gs7 All American 2354 Posts user info edit post |
http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable
doesn't require installation on the computer, run it off a flash drive if you want 10/12/2007 4:54:06 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "all i know is, from a graphics standpoint... a lot of gradients and colors render like balls in IE, even in IE7" |
What?10/12/2007 5:08:20 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
that is true. especially png files. 10/12/2007 5:10:58 PM |
philihp All American 8349 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The fact that Microsoft left IE6 stagnate for so long by not supporting PNG images with alpha channels is just amazing. What a nightmare the lack of PNG support caused web designers. Sigh." |
what are you talking about? You can use the PNG alpha channel in IE. I believe this was introduced in 5.5, before any of you kids had even heard of the name Mozilla. Granted, it wasn't easy to use, it was still there. And it was first to market.
Quote : | "YEARS ago, i hated firefox, but that was because my coding was sub-par...nowadays, IE just pisses the hell out of me because it can't seem to read code correctly (and yes, i'm sure my code is correct)" |
It's not difficult to write cross-platform code. It takes more time, this is true, but this is true for writing cross-platform C++ code as well. It's not an easy task. What I gather, is that you knew how to write code for IE, but not Firefox, then learned how to write code for Firefox and forgot how to code for IE, but you blame the browsers. IE didn't change, it has been the same spyware-ridden browser since 2001.10/13/2007 12:42:30 AM |