HOA's are bullshit.

7/23/2007 10:45:57 AM

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7/23/2007 10:46:53 AM

It is obvious the mature thing to do is to call and bitch about them making noise at 7 am and say you are trying to sleep.

7/23/2007 10:47:23 AM

obviously this will be my next course of action, lol

7/23/2007 11:02:39 AM

Yes, and HOA can put a lien on your property and take it and therefore kick you out if you are not following the HOA rules. If it comes to this, there is little recourse, since cities and I imagine judges take HOAs seriously.

If your lawer didn't tell you there was an HOA when you bought the property you can probably sue him/her.

7/23/2007 11:14:23 AM

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"If your lawer didn't tell you there was an HOA when you bought the property you can probably sue him/her."

If you buy a condo and don't realize there is an HOA you are dumb as shit. The fucking building does not paint/maintain/insure itself.

7/23/2007 12:07:22 PM

How are HOA's even legal?

7/23/2007 12:11:13 PM

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"just seems like a double standard to me that I can be woken up at 7am but if i let the door shut too loudly at 11pm it's the end of the world. i'm not even bitching anymore about them getting mad about us really probably getting too loud"

yeah Cpt D-Bag has no problem letting his Dog park at 7 am while i'm sleeping or his wife doing something noisy while getting up to head out to her teaching job.

I get ultimate satisfaction and revenge this summer as I blast my tunes at 8 am since they have nothing going on (he's a grad student she is out for the summer) before going to my 8:40 class.

7/23/2007 12:30:07 PM

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"How are HOA's even legal?"

See, this is what I keep coming back to.

7/23/2007 12:31:15 PM

^ Through contracts you can give and take away every right you can think of. A condition of the property sale in these Nazi (sorry, Godwin's law) crazy neighborhoods, is that you sign, and therefore agree, to the HOA's terms and conditions.

7/23/2007 12:49:49 PM

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"How are HOA's even legal? "

a landowner can put whatever conditions he/her decide to put on the property before it is sold. you dont have to agree to them/buy the property. developers put HOA's that convey with the property in order to maintain the common grounds and set up rules within the subdivision. most people want a HOA in place to protect themselves and their investment. developers want them so they dont have the headache of doing all of that maintenance work themselves.

[Edited on July 23, 2007 at 1:01 PM. Reason : . ]

7/23/2007 1:00:41 PM

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"the whole thing about never signing HOA papers, being late on a payment, and all the notices going to your parents' house is sketchy. you need to get your shit together."

no shit.

move back to Brent Road until you're ready to get a real job.

7/23/2007 1:08:36 PM

HOA's exist because of the NIMBY attitudes of most homeowners. They can be a very powerful force.

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"democratic organizations to preserve the integrity of the community...wtf were people thinking"

They are no more democratic than lynch mobs, and serve the same purpose. "Preserving the integrity of the community" sounds a lot like group-sanctioned persecution to me.

7/23/2007 1:11:14 PM

I'd definitely find out when/where this meeting to evict you will be taking place and crash it. Just act calm and collected and tell them they are being ridiculous. lol.

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"edit: and if they do give me some kind of 30 day notice for eviction they're going to see what a real fucking college style party is..they haven't seen anything close yet"

I'M READY TO GET ROWDY!

7/23/2007 1:19:17 PM

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"How are HOA's even legal?"

in many circumstances homeowners associations are required under NC law

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"They are no more democratic than lynch mobs"

if you can vote, then it's democratic artard--whether you like the outcome or not

[Edited on July 23, 2007 at 1:37 PM. Reason : .]

7/23/2007 1:27:56 PM

Some of you kids need to grow the hell up. HOA's being group sanctioned persecution? el oh el.

HOAs are there to prevent some asshole moving into a quiet adult condominium community and having loud parties late at night with idiot friends littering their cigarette butts all over the place. Was the neighbor a complete pussy by not going to the asshole first? Sure. The truth is, he shouldn't have to, though. When you move into a community, you should be considerate of those around you. If you want to live a loud and obnoxious college lifestyle, there are plenty of places that you would fit right in. Don't make other people miserable because you are a selfish jerk, though.

Of course, I don't know the details so I could be talking out of my ass here.

7/23/2007 1:41:09 PM

Some of the best parties I have ever attended were eviction parties.

7/23/2007 2:05:05 PM

some HOAs are about as democratic as the teamster's union. It's not like they have a large system of checks and balances in place to keep certain property owners from abusing the power they come into.

7/23/2007 2:06:48 PM

no but they do have checks and balances.

haha wow man, some of you guys are amazing. Lynch mobs? Persecution?

It's apparent who here owns property and who doesn't. Also apparent who has a small amount of class and who doesn't. Funny I don't know a single person IRL who has ever had a single problem with their HOA.

In fact I know several who got active in their HOA's just because they wanted their fees to do more for the community. Cleaning up sidewalks/paths, better common area lawn care, et al.

7/23/2007 3:42:00 PM

^what he said.

7/23/2007 3:43:39 PM

I already told my HOA that if they try to screw me I'm going to rent my place at a loss to as many mexicans as I can fit in there for $100 a month. I'll even put in bunk beds.

7/23/2007 3:53:51 PM

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"Funny I don't know a single person IRL who has ever had a single problem with their HOA. "

LOL, you must not read the news too much. HOA's are constantly making headlines for some stupid ruling or another that ends up in court.

7/23/2007 3:53:57 PM

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"It's apparent who here owns property and who doesn't. Also apparent who has a small amount of class and who doesn't. Funny I don't know a single person IRL who has ever had a single problem with their HOA. "

are you sheltered? you've been in my house before. I've known a lot of people that have had problems with their HOA, for either persecuting neighbors they didn't want to embezzling funds to spending the HOA funds on frivolous stuff like speed bumps when the entire subdivision needs repaving.

7/23/2007 3:57:17 PM

What problems did you have???

7/23/2007 4:00:21 PM

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"I already told my HOA that if they try to screw me I'm going to rent my place at a loss to as many mexicans as I can fit in there for $100 a month. I'll even put in bunk beds."

hahahaha

7/23/2007 4:07:23 PM

^^^Yea, I wasn't referring to you

I can see where the POTENTIAL for abuse lies. But if you are actively involved with you HOA, it prevents a lot of stupid shit from happening. If not, you don't really have a whole lot of room to bitch and moan.

And as much as I hate to say it, the times I've seen people "persecuted" by their HOA, the places were fucking shitholes, or completely retarded (purple house + baby blue shutters, and still not well kept). I'm not saying abuse doesn't happen, but I think it's grossly overstated. For every fucked up HOA story you hear about, there are 1000 other HOA's that don't have problems.

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"LOL, you must not read the news too much. HOA's are constantly making headlines for some stupid ruling or another that ends up in court."

Funny, that has nothing to do with what I said. Of everyone I know, they haven't had any major problems. I think the worst problem anyone has had was in cutting down a tree in their yard because it was overhanging the roof of the house, and they didn't realize they needed HOA approval. That took like a week, then the tree came down.

[Edited on July 23, 2007 at 4:10 PM. Reason : .]

7/23/2007 4:09:50 PM

I've seen plenty of instances where every house in the development was a shithole, but certain members of the HOA would rather be assholes to everyone around them than to just move to a nicer area. That happened in several areas around NCSU where people bought cheap starter homes in developing communities close to campus and then got pissed off because investors came in and bought houses to rent out for local college kids. Honestly, what did they expect was going to happen?

7/23/2007 4:45:15 PM

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"I already told my HOA that if they try to screw me I'm going to rent my place at a loss to as many mexicans as I can fit in there for $100 a month. I'll even put in bunk beds.""

Actually, they can probably screw you for doing that. Many HOA's have occupancy clauses to prevent things like that.

Do people here not like their common areas & recreation area kept up? Cause that's really the only thing my HOA does.

7/23/2007 5:03:17 PM

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". The truth is, he shouldn't have to, though. When you move into a community, you should be considerate of those around you. If you want to live a loud and obnoxious college lifestyle, there are plenty of places that you would fit right in. Don't make other people miserable because you are a selfish jerk, though. "

Fuck that. The same right you have to live there I have the right to live my life and make noise to a reasonable level. I should not have to tip toe around my apartment or make sure I EXTRA gently close the door b.c some asshat is hyper sensitive to the slightest noise above 10 decibels at night. You should not be expected to act like you are in the library in your own condo/apt

As I said in a previous post if noise is that big of an issue you should get a house on an acre of land or plop a mobile home in bum fuck to escape "those noisy people".

[Edited on July 23, 2007 at 5:35 PM. Reason : l]

7/23/2007 5:33:09 PM

^^I live next to a city park and have 2 other parks within easy walking distance using the city walkways that are right beside my house. Luckily I don't have a HOA to double charge me for something that my city taxes and fees already pay for.

7/23/2007 5:49:08 PM

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"Fuck that. The same right you have to live there I have the right to live my life and make noise to a reasonable level"

Reasonable is the key word, this guy had a lot of people over late who were loud (he already said he wasn't inviting them back over again). Not to mention the one friend screaming outside with his girlfriend for 30 minutes or the trash thrown outside.


Still he should not be evicted, and they should not be doing this behind the scenes bullshit with him.

7/23/2007 6:36:57 PM

Yeah, that's my main point... come to my face about it, give me an unreasonable fine, etc. Don't go behind my back and try to kick my ass out. Ah well, I'm 99% sure they're going to drop it this time. It's not worth them fighting without more real evidence. I'm more worried about what the "reasonable" level of noise is now going to be. Seriously I have pissed the neighbors off for walking up and down the stairs too many times at 11pm when I was bringing stuff up because I had just gotten there.. I can understand them being pissed about last weekend, but not shit like that. The problem now is something stupid like that is probably going to get me evicted.

Ah well, live and learn.

7/23/2007 7:39:56 PM

at least when it comes time to sell you're neighbors will gladly help

7/23/2007 7:41:43 PM

Exactly haha.. I'm thinking about selling and moving further south anyways, I'm damn near in NC right now and it's too much driving to get to Myrtle

7/23/2007 7:44:06 PM

And, while HOA's are bullshit a lot of the time.. the one at this place went to court for the entire place and stopped the golf course from being removed and stopped more condos from being built. I don't like them most of the time but shit like that is why they are there.

7/23/2007 7:45:19 PM

^^ your goal in life is to live near Myrtle Beach

aha. no wonder your neighbors hate you. youre a fucking uncultured bum. people like you drive down property values.

i'd try and run you out of my neighborhood too.

7/23/2007 9:25:50 PM

I didn't say it was a goal of my life.. I said I'm young and have the money to live in a nice place down there and that's where I want to live right now until I decide to settle down. You have nothing better to do than give me shit over living at the beach?

[Edited on July 23, 2007 at 9:32 PM. Reason : and I don't want to go all the way to Myrtle fyi, just a bit closer]

7/23/2007 9:29:20 PM

no, i just find it amusing that you're so incredulous that your neighbors dont like you.

my only problem with you is that you created this thread sounding like you're the victim, and apparently trying to drum up some sympathy ....

but the reality is that you're just another obnoxious party boy who acts like he's still living on Frat Row, and wondering why grownups are so mean.

other than that, i'm sure you're a standup guy.






[Edited on July 23, 2007 at 9:45 PM. Reason : ]

7/23/2007 9:43:22 PM

I was more curious about the actual legalities of the whole thing...but yea that's cool, call me what you want I really don't care. Just trying to get all the partying out of me while I'm young so I'm not the 57 year old falling down drunk at the pool like I saw the other day..

7/23/2007 9:47:44 PM

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"so I'm not the 57 year old falling down drunk at the pool like I saw the other day."

well, yeah, good point... don't be that guy

7/23/2007 9:52:20 PM

57 year old drunk...lol. At least he can still party.

7/23/2007 10:32:52 PM

Yea he's actually a pretty cool dude..besides the whole two faced alcoholic that talks too much thing

7/23/2007 10:37:14 PM

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"no but they do have checks and balances. "

not true

there is nothing about them that requires any sort of checks and balances

have you read some of the HOA rules? for instance, the property for my HOA states that the current rules in place are not to be changed until 5 years from their enacted date and only if 80% of the people agree. thats hardly checks and balances, just one example...

your HOA may be decent, but you need to realize not all HOAs are this pretty little collection of PTA parents who don't want parties in their neighborhoods.

7/23/2007 10:39:00 PM

I've obviously found that out already lol...

7/23/2007 10:55:39 PM

^^hell yes they have check and balances.

You can sue over regulations they put in place that could potentially violate laws or civil rights.

You can join the board and become a vocal opponent to retarded measures. The reason most of the stupid shit gets passed is because no one in the neighborhood gives a damn, so a handful of people rule the roost (sound similar to another political situation?). It's not until long after the fact that people get pissy.

Get involved or pay the price. If someone is trying to get a retarded regulation passed, call the neighborhood. A lot of the stuff wouldn't pass if people actually knew about it.

And beyond that, you should be living somewhere with people who you can get along with. The same thing as working with people you get along with.

ScHpEnXeL: Why don't you man up, go to the HOA and apologize, explain the situation and that you are not going to continue with the shit. Go to your neighbors, invite them out for lunch and talk to them about it. I mean it's pretty pathetic to come bitch and moan on here rather than just fucking talking to them. You are so down on people talking "behind your back" but you are doing the same damn thing.

7/23/2007 11:21:56 PM

I already have dip shit

edit: well, apologized to everybody in the building and explained it wouldn't happen again..they still didn't promise they wouldn't try to evict me over everything but i'm sure it helped.

also, bought the woman next door a bottle of wine

[Edited on July 23, 2007 at 11:28 PM. Reason : asdf]

7/23/2007 11:26:58 PM

Nice dude, I retract my previous comment then.

That's awesome and definitely the right way to start repairing bridges.

7/23/2007 11:29:49 PM

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"also, bought the woman next door a bottle of wine"

ok now get drunk and go pee on her door

7/24/2007 12:00:04 AM

will do

7/24/2007 12:01:51 AM

make sure to hit the doorknob too

7/24/2007 12:02:34 AM