hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I wonder how many grand statements about the 'rule of law' we'll see here now?" |
1/1/2010 2:23:00 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ that makes no sense
no one has been, or is now, questioning the rule of law. 1/1/2010 2:27:44 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It’s sad that anyone would gloat though that people got off with indiscriminately and without provocation, murdering innocent people." |
moron
But they "got off," right?1/1/2010 2:36:34 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
^^ It makes perfect sense. In hooksaw's head, the moonbats will flock to this thread demanding the Blackwater contractors be railroaded. In other words, hooksaw believes the moonbats will want Blackwater treated the same way he wants KSM treated: dragged out back and shot.
Remember--hooksaw believes all liberals hate America and want to see it destroyed. He loathes all who disagree with him.
[Edited on January 1, 2010 at 5:32 PM. Reason : ] 1/1/2010 5:32:27 PM |
1337 b4k4 All American 10033 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The way the article has it phrased, it’s not the immunity itself that prevented prosecution, which is strange to me, but IANAL." |
From my reading of it, they were promised immunity from prosecution for statements (probably connected to an investigation of Blackwater, and not their particular incident). And when whatever investigation their statements were given for didn't go anywhere, they were charged based on the statements they gave. Sounds like the judge felt that was more or less compelling them to testify against themselves.
I feel the same way about this case that I do about most that get off on technicalities and the like. Glad that our system doesn't allow people to be rail roaded but unhappy that essentially the truth of a crime (or lack thereof) was essentially tossed out because of mishandling on the part of a prosecutor or defense.
Also, why were they charged and prosecuted here in the US? They committed a crime in Iraq. Iraq has a functioning, legitimate government. Why weren't they prosecuted there?1/1/2010 6:41:53 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
The SOF agreement between Iraq and the US prevents contractors and military personnel from being tried for crimes by the government of Iraq.
This was changed (for contractors at least) after the incident being discussed in this thread. If the same incident occurred today, Blackwater could be tried by the Iraqi government.
[Edited on January 1, 2010 at 6:58 PM. Reason : ] 1/1/2010 6:53:12 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I wonder how many grand statements about the 'rule of law' we'll see here now?" |
1/2/2010 12:28:19 AM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
I wonder how many times hooksaw will quote himself? 1/2/2010 9:20:47 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
I wonder the murders of how many more civilians (and the acquittal of the murderers) will please hooksaw and his ilk. 1/3/2010 4:11:04 AM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
^ They weren't acquitted. The charges were dropped, so their guilt or innocence hasn't been legally determined.
Dropped charges =/= innocent (and, of course, an indictment =/= guilty). 1/3/2010 7:58:06 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Yes I know about that stupid/sad turn of events, but for all practical purposes, and especially for the victims and their families, the message the US sent is that they are not guilty.
Reminds me of a Boston Legal episode in which a Senegalese immigrant's college-going son was shot in the face by a robber in a park, but since evidence was obtained using illegal search warrants, all charges were dropped and a cold-blooded murderer was let go free.
I don't know of stupider and more unjust legal bullshit. 1/3/2010 8:25:20 AM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
Those legal protections exist for a reason. They are not bullshit.
Blame the prosecution for trying to circumvent them, not the laws themselves. 1/3/2010 9:08:45 AM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
1/3/2010 11:44:10 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
how can you possibly say this?
you don't help your ideology by acting like a monster1/4/2010 3:00:00 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
1/4/2010 8:16:01 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100107/ap_on_re_us/us_afghan_contractor_shooting 1/7/2010 3:53:16 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ I was cheering for the. . .
1/7/2010 4:14:55 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Finally, some justice
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/four-blackwater-guards-sentenced-in-iraq-shootings-of-31-unarmed-civilians/2015/04/13/55b777e0-dee4-11e4-be40-566e2653afe5_story.html
Quote : | "Four Blackwater guards sentenced in Iraq shootings of 31 unarmed civilians
April 13, 2015
A federal judge Monday sentenced a former Blackwater Worldwide security guard to life in prison and three others to 30-year terms for killing 14 unarmed civilians in a Baghdad traffic circle in 2007." |
Whoops, let's take that back
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/local/public-safety/murder-conviction-in-blackwater-case-thrown-out-other-sentences-overturned/2017/08/04/a14f275c-792e-11e7-9eac-d56bd5568db8_story.html
Quote : | "Murder conviction in Blackwater case thrown out, other sentences overturned
August 4, 2017
A U.S. appeals court on Friday threw out the first-degree murder conviction of a former Blackwater Worldwide security guard sentenced to life in prison in the killings of 14 unarmed Iraqi civilians in a Baghdad traffic circle in 2007.
The court also ordered resentencings for three others convicted in the incident." |
8/7/2017 6:35:04 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
I am sure this has nothing to do with Betsy DeVos and her brother', Erik Prince founder of Blackwater, close relationship to the President. 8/8/2017 11:34:17 AM |