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10/14/2007 5:36:41 PM

in case it was overlooked on page 1


blue car. It's the one in traffic. Same as if the blue car was making a left turn and the person in the red car was making a left turn as well.

10/14/2007 5:42:04 PM

yes. i'm pretty sure the red car has to yield because it has a stop sign. if it did not, then regulations require some indication of who has to yield.

would this happen to be the Nazareth and Western intersection?

10/14/2007 5:55:01 PM

U-turns never have right of way.

10/14/2007 5:56:55 PM

^if that were true, then there would never need to be a sign that says "UTURN MUST YIELD"

10/14/2007 5:59:21 PM

Those signs are for the people who weren't taught that in driver's education.

[Edited on October 14, 2007 at 6:04 PM. Reason : Or forgot it.]

10/14/2007 6:03:31 PM

they have signs that say "yield to pedestrians" and they always have the right of way

10/14/2007 6:04:21 PM

Quote :

"Those signs are for the people who weren't taught that in driver's education."

[Edited on October 14, 2007 at 6:04 PM. Reason : or just didn't pay attention]

10/14/2007 6:04:27 PM

or just because people can't fucking drive.

10/14/2007 6:04:52 PM

there's a sign at Gorman and Western that says U-turn must yield, yet the dumbasses making U-turns there still think they have right-of-way.

[Edited on October 14, 2007 at 6:09 PM. Reason : I love blocking off people making illegal U-turns]

10/14/2007 6:09:07 PM

If you are making a turn and you have a green ball, you must yield to pedestrians.

If you are making a turn and you have a green arrow, you do not have yield to pedestrians.

[Edited on October 14, 2007 at 6:18 PM. Reason : Hence the arrow.]

10/14/2007 6:17:49 PM

you always yield to pedestrians. Thinking you can just run them over because of a green arrow is a great way to get a vehicular manslaughter charge.

10/14/2007 6:39:26 PM

if the peds would just follow the white man or orange hand, no one would have a problem

also this situation would have not been a problem if there were more michigan lefts

[Edited on October 14, 2007 at 6:41 PM. Reason : 

10/14/2007 6:40:41 PM

Quote :

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COUP FOURRÉ!!!

10/14/2007 6:48:16 PM

red car has right of way

u-turn always yields

Quote :

"it is also illegal to do three point turns on a thoroughfare"

what qualifies as a "thoroughfare"?

10/14/2007 7:05:42 PM

Quote :

"COUP FOURRÉ!!!"

dirty trick?

10/14/2007 7:12:10 PM

This should be a non issue since you are supposed to turn into your first available lane (left lane for the blue car, right lane for the red car). However, I would think that the car with the stop sign would have to yield to the free flowing traffic.

10/14/2007 7:13:02 PM

^there is no way you can make a u-turn into the leftmost lane going the other way unless you do a 180degree burnout

or it's a huge median

10/14/2007 7:21:28 PM

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"you always yield to pedestrians. Thinking you can just run them over because of a green arrow is a great way to get a vehicular manslaughter charge."

Pedestrians have their signals and traffic has their signals. If one fails to follow their signals, a pedestrian is going to get hurt.

10/14/2007 7:40:35 PM

i don't know the rules but

Quote :

"blue car. It's the one in traffic. Same as if the blue car was making a left turn and the person in the red car was making a left turn as well."

was my opinion

10/14/2007 8:25:50 PM

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"dirty trick?"

10/14/2007 8:39:03 PM

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"Pedestrians have their signals and traffic has their signals. If one fails to follow their signals, a pedestrian is going to get hurt."

Somewhere in my driver's education material was written the phrase "Pedestrians always have the right of way". I don't remember where I saw it, but if a pedestrian enters the street (even illegally), you must yield the right of way.

10/14/2007 9:03:03 PM

I bet this was at Western and Nazareth

[Edited on October 14, 2007 at 9:14 PM. Reason : v Oh I didn't read page 2 ]

10/14/2007 9:06:01 PM

i said that at the top of this page

10/14/2007 9:11:12 PM

^4 wth...if that was supposed to elucidate matters, uh--it didn't work

[Edited on October 14, 2007 at 9:12 PM. Reason : 4]

10/14/2007 9:12:14 PM

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"I bet this was at Western and Nazareth "

Close... Western and Deboy

10/14/2007 9:23:15 PM

^^ Then you should play Mille Bornes more often.

10/15/2007 12:52:29 PM

i'm on that shit like white on rice

[Edited on October 15, 2007 at 12:55 PM. Reason : it looks like french uno]

[Edited on October 15, 2007 at 12:56 PM. Reason : with traffic signs]

10/15/2007 12:53:31 PM

It's nothing like Uno.

[Edited on October 15, 2007 at 12:57 PM. Reason : at all]

10/15/2007 12:56:53 PM

well, i guess you'll have to teach me then...

10/15/2007 12:59:15 PM

red

10/15/2007 1:01:44 PM

I'm not going to run someone over because of it but if someone walks out in front of my truck when not indicated to by the cross-walk/traffic signal they will get the horn. Loud and long.

10/15/2007 1:37:57 PM

Quote :

"20-155. Right-of-way. (a) When two vehicles approach or enter an intersection from different highways at approximately the same time, the driver of the vehicle on the left shall yield the right-of-way to the vehicle on the right. "

10/15/2007 1:41:04 PM

I also would think blue has the right of way, because that car is ALREADY in the roadway. Red is ENTERING the road. Right?



[Edited on October 15, 2007 at 1:52 PM. Reason : +]

10/15/2007 1:51:12 PM

Quote :

"20-155. Right-of-way. (a) When two vehicles approach or enter an intersection from different highways at approximately the same time, the driver of the vehicle on the left shall yield the right-of-way to the vehicle on the right. (b) The person in the BMW has right of way unless no BMW is involved, in which case right of way belongs to the person with the most bribe/lawyer money. "

[Edited on October 15, 2007 at 1:57 PM. Reason : l]

10/15/2007 1:56:26 PM

Definitely blue in this situation.

However the amount of debate in this thread is plenty of reason to proceed cautiously regardless.

[Edited on October 15, 2007 at 2:20 PM. Reason : .]

10/15/2007 2:19:33 PM

blue

because, like you said, you were in the red car

10/15/2007 2:30:42 PM

^

YOU

SUCK

BALLS

10/15/2007 3:13:43 PM

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"there's a sign at Gorman and Western that says U-turn must yield, yet the dumbasses making U-turns there still think they have right-of-way."

At the intersection of Dan Allen and Western some dumbass always tries to U-Turn w/o yielding eventhough
I have a green arrow to turn right.

Quote :

"This should be a non issue since you are supposed to turn into your first available lane (left lane for the blue car, right lane for the red car). However, I would think that the car with the stop sign would have to yield to the free flowing traffic."

unless its a wide fucking median or you drive a motorcycle their is no way to turn into the
first avaliable lane when doing a u-turn.

Quote :

"b) The person in the BMW or Big Ass SUV has right of way unless no BMW is involved, in which case right of way belongs to the person with the most bribe/lawyer money."

10/15/2007 3:26:20 PM

i say blue car but i don't write the laws.

10/15/2007 3:39:51 PM

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"The blue car has to yield. if you were the red car, you would expect the blue car to be making a left turn. You don't wait for someone to make a left turn onto your street if you are making a right.... "

10/15/2007 3:57:01 PM

You can quote it, but it's still wrong.

Blue car has the right of way since it is on the right. You don't know if he's making a u-turn or turning left onto the red car's road. So until you find out, you'd better sit at that stop sign.

Unless, of course, there is a "U-turn must yield" sign.

Posted again, the relevant statute:

Quote :

" § 20-155. Right-of-way. (a) When two vehicles approach or enter an intersection from different highways at approximately the same time, the driver of the vehicle on the left shall yield the right-of-way to the vehicle on the right. "

10/15/2007 6:27:35 PM

hmm...and when the blue car makes a u-turn, the red car is on it's right. so what's your point? But the red car is on a side street with a stop sign while the blue car is on a main roadway, so I'd think the red car should wait unless the blue car isn't already waiting at the light.

^ and I'm amazed at how many people can't grasp that concept at a 3 or 4-way stop.

[Edited on October 15, 2007 at 6:39 PM. Reason : ]

10/15/2007 6:31:48 PM

Ludacris always has the right of way





[Edited on October 15, 2007 at 6:34 PM. Reason : .]

10/15/2007 6:33:49 PM

Quote :

"blue car had right of way red car had a stop sign blue car was already out in the main flow of traffic whoever's out there has the right of way now if there were a stoplight and u-turn had green arrow and right turn had green solid, right turn would have right of way"

that's right.

it matters that there was a stop sign and not a traffic light. both of those situations have different rules. in this case, with the stop sign, blue would have had the right of way (see above). even if blue had also had a stop sign (4-way stop), blue would have had the right of way because it was to the right.

if there had been a traffic light, then it would depend on who had what color and type (arrow or solid) of light and if there were any signs such as "no u-turn" or "u-turn must yield".

10/15/2007 6:37:36 PM

A quick google search turned up this article entitled "Right on red must give way to U-Turn"
http://www.journalgazette.net/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070616/LOCAL0203/706160332

[Edited on October 15, 2007 at 6:40 PM. Reason : .]

10/15/2007 6:39:54 PM

^ "right on red" applies to traffic lights. there was no light in TenaciousC's situation.

10/15/2007 6:41:39 PM

Right on red is the equivalent of right from a stop sign.

10/15/2007 10:39:40 PM