let us rush the field, fucking stupid that we can't celebrate a big win anymore

11/1/2007 6:17:37 AM

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" Redo the fountain next to Talley student center so that it circulates water that's contained in a smaller area. Use a rainwater collection system with a cistern to keep it going, and don't use city of raleigh water in it any more (I assume they do since they always shut it off when they enact higher stage water restrictions). Use some of the land you reclaim from the fountain for some nice greenery like a small flower garden or something. Something Tony Avent would like. It would be a minor boost to our environmental appearance, and would get rid of the most damned wasteful parts of that fountain."

they just recently made it smaller when they redid that whole area. In general, I think the fountain is nice . . . but a complete waste. People have to be idiots and put soap in it and the only way to fix that is to drain it and replace the water.

11/1/2007 8:25:02 AM

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"tell you straight up that 35-45% of the class would fail (happened to me in CE 214 in the summer), if that is the case then get rid of the motherfucker and find someone that has the ability to TEACH the material well enough for more people to pass , weed out course or not that high of a failing rate is inexcusable"

The reason why that many people D/F statics is because there are way too many people who think they can be civil engineers but can't, and this is the first main weed out class. There is nothing wrong with the people teaching it.

11/1/2007 4:19:52 PM

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" The reason why that many people D/F statics is because there are way too many people who think they can be civil engineers but can't, and this is the first main weed out class. There is nothing wrong with the people teaching it."

that is fucking stupid, if an instructor is teaching the material well enough then that number should be MUCH lower. When almost half the class fails I do not view that as a weed out course, I view it as a problem that the university needs to fix. Give me an instructor that can teach and turn that 35-45% into a 10-20%. Take for example CH 101 with an old instructor named Orji, do you think he was a good prof. because he was failing over 50% of his class? Or are you going to blame the students in the class for not learning the material on their own. We pay enough fucking money to have this shit taught to us, not for us to have learn it on our own. I want coherent notes and tests that are similar to the information being instructed. If the prof. babbles about bullshit the entire class then his/her tests need to be on bullshit. When the average midterm grade for a class is less than 50 after a curve and no curve is distributed at the end of the semester then I don't think that is considered adequate teaching. I believe you and I just have different views on standards of teaching,.

11/1/2007 9:25:19 PM

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"Renovate the old building and repair the roof, clean out the mold, and redo the interior so there's a computer lab on the bottom floor and a mixed use computer lab, study, and coffee lounge on the top floor with wifi access to draw all the students out of their dorms when they do homework. Keep it open 24/7. "

what is this referring too? seems like you mention the bookstore then go on to something about dorms...you mean do away/move the bookstore completely?



and have you guys taken a look at the masterplan for NC State? I suggest you take a look at it, some exciting stuff....

11/1/2007 10:16:27 PM

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" that is fucking stupid, if an instructor is teaching the material well enough then that number should be MUCH lower. When almost half the class fails I do not view that as a weed out course, I view it as a problem that the university needs to fix. Give me an instructor that can teach and turn that 35-45% into a 10-20%. Take for example CH 101 with an old instructor named Orji, do you think he was a good prof. because he was failing over 50% of his class? Or are you going to blame the students in the class for not learning the material on their own. "

First off, that 35-45 value is quoted as a D and F rate (because it is a C- wall class) the actual %Fs is around the 10-20% mark. Keep in mind this is with almost EVERY statics class no matter who teaches it (and there have been at least a half dozen different professors who have taught it in the last decade). No one professors grade distribution is particularly better then the other. Of course if *one* professor gave out half Fs while everyone else fit a different curve then that IS a teaching problem.

Honestly, would you have it any other way? Statics is a very *basic* engineering course... you sure you want engineers to be graduated who cannot handle the basics? Statics is a breeze compared to any higher level engineering class.... and keep in mind Civil is considered one of the easier engineerings! Not everyone in this world is cut out to be an engineer (just like any other profession, I would probably flunk out of medical school if they let me in). The class is taught fine, as a matter of fact, it sounds like Parish taught this course (he is famous for that "1/3 of you will fail out" speech at the beginning, because it is TRUE), he is generally considered one of the best.

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"We pay enough fucking money to have this shit taught to us, not for us to have learn it on our own. I want coherent notes and tests that are similar to the information being instructed. If the prof. babbles about bullshit the entire class then his/her tests need to be on bullshit. When the average midterm grade for a class is less than 50 after a curve and no curve is distributed at the end of the semester then I don't think that is considered adequate teaching."

Actually you pay next to nothing compared to what you are getting, NCSU ranks very high in the "best value" category. And by the way, in college we expect you to be able to teach some of this to yourself and take your own damn coherent notes... what did you think this is? a diploma mill? An uncurved 50 average is not totally unheard of on an engineering exam. You can lead a horse to water....etc

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" I believe you and I just have different views on standards of teaching,."

More like you and I have different values on standards of students future engineers. If you want an education where everyone passes, where you are spoonfed, and your degree is worthless, go to the Univeristy of Phoenix Online or something like that.

11/2/2007 12:41:51 AM

^Parrish is the man, cannot reiterate that enough. He may seem like a dick at times, but he's a no bullshit type of guy and a hell of a teacher. And I agree, engineers are accountable for a lot. Not everyone can do it. It honestly doesn't matter if you gave it your best (for all engineering courses), there comes a point in the real world where something you've helped design or build could potentially kill or harm someone due to poor engineering. Part of Prof. Rabiei's (MAE) intro solids speech was something along the lines of 'if a doctor fails, one person dies; if an engineer fails, hundreds can die.' Thought she was a bitch at first but it's true. It's going to really matter how much you learn and not just memorize for a test.

/rant soapbox

I'd like to see D.H. Hill opened back up 24hrs during the school year. Gotta love the 'there's not enough people here studying and working their asses off on a weekend to warrant the money we're spending' approach. Almost as fucked up as the guys in Broughton spending the night working on a project to get harassed and written up by the cops.

Also, longer hours at Carmichael, although I think all they're gonna do is keep cutting back due to costs. While I think having a place to work out is an ideal thing for a college student, the reason we're still here is to get an education, making the library or other buildings open for the students to have the time to get things done when they can't during 'normal' hours.

11/2/2007 1:06:50 AM

bttt

11/7/2007 9:28:19 PM

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"I've taken plenty of classes where I've wondered why people even bothered to show up. The professor could easily put up videos of their lectures and e-mail all paper communications. No meaningful questions are asked. No real debate or conversation goes on. Nobody's talking after class or making new friends/connections. "

to borrow an elegant, abeit unintentional, soliloquy from bridget--and it's probably outside the scope of what you had in mind, but this is what i'd most like to see changed at nc state. there's so much apathy here, it's depressing

11/18/2007 9:00:26 PM

Extend freshmen-retakes to sophomores, juniors, and seniors.

Some of my 300-400 level classes beat my ass, I would have liked to know that they weren't life or death, and I'd have at least 2 retakes just in case.

11/19/2007 9:04:14 AM

Make tutoring freely available for all levels of physics and math courses; not just the 200 level physics courses and calculus. Have tutors available for py201 and py202 courses and not just tutors for engineers who take py205/py208

11/20/2007 8:24:29 AM

TAs that can speak/write English.

11/20/2007 12:05:30 PM

I would like to see 200-level History teachers not pretending that they are teaching a graduate course. Especially when this is their first semester teaching, they should take our advice, as well. I fucking hate my History class and its because of the way he teaches and tests that I may possibly be taking it again next semester.

[Edited on November 25, 2007 at 4:08 PM. Reason : ]

11/25/2007 4:08:04 PM

what history? i took hi207 and loved it

11/25/2007 4:10:44 PM

hi210, western civ since the french rev.

11/25/2007 4:19:39 PM

oh man...that class sounds bleh! goodluck!

11/25/2007 4:29:32 PM

heh, sounds kinda interesting to me--imperialism and what-not

11/25/2007 4:33:59 PM

i mean the western civilization part sounds ok i guess but i could give a fuck less about some damn french revolution bullshit

11/25/2007 4:43:41 PM

Well, the material could go either way... but let me tell you about the class:
We have a list of words that are what makes up our tests
Our tests are a list of 12 words that we have pick 10 and write a page or more on the "significance" of the word
The lectures do not include hardly any of these words - Maybe 1 that appears one each test was covered in class
So basically, the lectures are pointless

11/25/2007 10:59:30 PM

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"There are of course bad teachers here, but there are also lots of good ones. At least in my experience there are only a few real lemons in the math dept. By in large the professors actually do care about teaching, they may not be willing to spoon feed it, but maybe that is just because this is a university and a certain amount of self-motivation is expected."

So true. I'm almost done and I've only had 1 horrible teacher.

11/26/2007 7:40:23 AM

I've only had 2 horrible teachers. One I won't mention b/c I think he reads tww and the other Dr. Orji.

11/27/2007 12:40:17 PM

1. let me in the front of the library!!! for fuck sake i hate walking around!!
2. the zoning ordinances of Raleigh SUCK. you cant have frat houses because more than 4 people in one house is considered a brothel
3. brick out hillsborough street from dan allen dr. to pullen road - that would just be classy
4. make hillsborough street buildings uniform as far as appearance - give them tax incentives to do so
5. pedestrian bridges at major intersections on western and hb street
6. pep rallies and longer tailgating hours
7. kegs at tail gates - beer is beer, it all gets you drunk, however keg beer is cheaper
8. renovate Poe so it doesn't look like something from 1984
9. go back to packtracks - portal sucks ass
10. more seats for students at games
11. let students in all the gates, not just the one in back so we have to stand in long ass lines to get in
12. GET A FUCKING LAW SCHOOL!!! why not? we need a conservative counterpart to UNC and also a medical school would make sense because we are a science and math school whereas UNC is liberal arts and they have one
13. encourage student activity on hb street similar to franklin street - PEOPLE KNOW THAT NC STATE IS LAME. if you let the students have fun = greater interest = more students = more money
14. admit more women - the girl/guy ratio is totally fucked here. i hate going to the bar and seeing 5+ dudes posted up on on chick
15. freshmen repeat - they wont let you retake a class unless you fail it. i have one C in my college career. why can't i repeat the class? that makes no sense
16. student government media broadcasts - i agree with the guy up there, we have no idea what they are doing
17. change our football uniforms!!! go back to something classic (similar to bama) because they look like shit. red jerseys with RED (not white) pants and a fucking RED helmet with an oldschool S. the new "block S" sucks.
18. step up our academic programs so that we're not behind UNC in everything
19. get a SAFE RIDE system similar to ECU for students. It wouldn't be shit to have busses running from campus to Gwood South and HB street. Why can't we have something like that when ECU does?


Where is our money going??? NC State does not give a SHIT about students and neither does the city of Raleigh. NC State is the largest school in the state of North Carolina but we get fucked on everything.

STEP YOUR GAME UP NC STATE.

11/27/2007 7:07:24 PM

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"15. freshmen repeat - they wont let you retake a class unless you fail it. i have one C in my college career. why can't i repeat the class? that makes no sense"

just to clear this up

you get 2 first year course repeats...not freshmen.


after that first year that is all you get, and yes even if you get a B-, you can technically use them on that class if you think you can get an A, it isnt limited to what classes/grades you can use.

[Edited on November 29, 2007 at 11:25 PM. Reason : f]

[Edited on November 29, 2007 at 11:35 PM. Reason : j]

11/29/2007 11:24:49 PM

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"after that first year that is all you get, and yes even if you get a B, you can technically use them on that class if you think you can get an A"

no hell you can't

11/29/2007 11:31:11 PM

1.3. The adviser's approval is required for students to repeat any course previously passed with a C- or better. No approval can be given for repeating a course in which a grade of A or B has already been earned; nor will it be given when:

1.3.1. students wish to repeat a lower division course that they have passed with a grade of C- or better after having successfully completed an advanced course dealing with the same subject matter;

1.3.2. students wish to repeat a lower level course that they have passed with a C- or better which is a prerequisite for an advanced course that they had already successfully completed;

[Edited on November 29, 2007 at 11:35 PM. Reason : j]

11/29/2007 11:34:54 PM

I would like to have a professor that isn't condescending when I went to go ask them about something in class. All of the classes I've needed help in, which haven't been many, all of the professors have been rude. And the most common question I get from them is "Don't you know how to do this?"

Not all of my professors have been like this though, I've had a few professors (mainly calculus and a physics prof) that were nice. They were classes I didn't need help in, but just wanted to talk to the professor so I could get on their good side.

About the Non-Penalty Repeat, I think all students should get 3 hours per year a total of 12 hours. Its a minimum full time semester worth of class just in case something happens and a student has to repeat a whole semester and stay enrolled.

I agree with mathman about elected positions. They all should be service positions, or better yet you could get some type of PS credit for it. I don't know how, since I'm not in the ploi sci field but it seems reasonable.

Just my thoughts.

Just my thoughts.

11/30/2007 11:01:05 AM

how about no more required foreign language classes? if i wanted to take a language, i would, because i would be interested in it. forcing me to take one to the 201 level just wastes my time through 3 semesters.

12/2/2007 10:29:01 PM

^ I'd like to apply that same logic to the 21 hours of CHASS classes engineers are forced to take. (granted, they are GPA boosters in which the engineer/PAMS students often do better then the kids who major in it!)

- Ditch the new website and new pack-tracs
- Ditch freshmen repeat all together, its unfair to those who did fine in the early classes and had a bad one later on.
- Aside from being able to speak/write in English, profs and TAs need to be able to write *LEGIBLY*
- Either ditch those individual chair+seat combos which only work for right handed students or provide sufficient lefty ones as well.
- Demolish Harrelson.

12/3/2007 7:47:10 PM

a general education component is required for ABET accreditation

12/3/2007 7:53:22 PM

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"how about no more required foreign language classes? if i wanted to take a language, i would, because i would be interested in it. forcing me to take one to the 201 level just wastes my time through 3 semesters."

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"Either ditch those individual chair+seat combos which only work for right handed students or provide sufficient lefty ones as well."

amen.

12/4/2007 5:33:25 PM

Offer foreign language classes on T/H.

For the past two years my only Friday class has been German. Shit sucks, yo.

12/4/2007 6:06:30 PM

arent the seats at the very left end of the rows in harrelson made for left handed people? I recall seeing and sitting in these somewhere

12/4/2007 7:00:11 PM

dead week should actually be dead week rather than suicide week.

12/4/2007 8:31:39 PM

thought of one today...so i had to take a massive shit earlier and had to walk over 10 minutes to get to harrelson bottom floor...not a minute too soon btw...we need more bathrooms like the handicap ones on teh bottom floor of harrelson

12/5/2007 6:18:18 PM

mathman

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"At least in my experience there are only a few real lemons in the math dept"

most of the nc state population probably doesn't experience the instruction of the math teachers like you do, i'm not sure your opinion on their graduate-level teaching skills necessarily applies to the teaching skills of people that take dif eq, the calc classes and below (i.e. most of NCSU population).

with that said, Silverstein is on the juice list.

12/5/2007 7:02:10 PM

2 words FUCK SILVERSTEIN

12/5/2007 7:17:40 PM

2 words FUCK SILVERSTEIN

12/5/2007 8:18:38 PM

^Woah, let me go ahead and 4th that proposition.......

12/5/2007 8:56:47 PM

^Woah, let me go ahead and 4th that proposition.......

12/5/2007 8:58:08 PM

keep em comin for a new semester

1/13/2008 3:30:55 PM

I'm sure this has already been mentioned, but let's look at the text book programs here.


Let's get a rent program in place, App State does this effectively; it saves money for the kids and makes money for the university.

If that's not feasable, then encourage professors to use older editions of textbooks, it's not like any signifigant changes really take place on the undergraduate level anymore. Most of the students believe that professors make good money of textbooks, but most make hardly anything, and some even make nothing.

1/14/2008 10:30:41 AM

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"^ I'd like to apply that same logic to the 21 hours of CHASS classes engineers are forced to take. (granted, they are GPA boosters in which the engineer/PAMS students often do better then the kids who major in it!)"

Back when I was a freshman, an advisor told me to be qualified as a unveristy at least half of you classes have to be outside of your major. Hence the reason you take these CHASS classes.

1/14/2008 10:50:12 AM

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"Let's get a rent program in place, App State does this effectively; it saves money for the kids and makes money for the university"

the reason i don't have a problem with the bookstore is that the profits go to need-based financial aid, so that the people that need the help most are the ones that get it

1/14/2008 6:05:23 PM

the reason i dont have a prob with the bookstore is usually i buy on amazon and sell to the bookstore and not only get a book for a semester but make profit on it

1/14/2008 6:12:14 PM

^^^ Why not just let us take 21 hours of stuff that we can choose then (i.e. 21 hours of history, or 21 hours of english) rather than requiring a certain amount in each area?

1/14/2008 8:08:10 PM

they are changing the GER(general education requirements) anyways to accomodate this, they are dropping a lot of the classes that arent really needed and the total hours.

1/14/2008 8:40:23 PM

^When are they doing this?

1/14/2008 9:08:08 PM

the freshmen class next year

it wont take any effect on anyone else tho, except them and those after them...if youre in school now, it wont matter

1/14/2008 9:17:46 PM

That's kinda unfair for us. Oh well.

1/14/2008 9:18:54 PM

[quote\how about no more required foreign language classes? if i wanted to take a language, i would, because i would be interested in it. forcing me to take one to the 201 level just wastes my time through 3 semesters.

^ I'd like to apply that same logic to the 21 hours of CHASS classes engineers are forced to take. (granted, they are GPA boosters in which the engineer/PAMS students often do better then the kids who major in it!)[/quote]

Take a class that teaches you what "university" means

1/15/2008 5:09:24 AM