agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Wasn't there some talk about APP moving up to D-1 sometime in the near future??
i believe that i read that they don't have the road access necessary, or something. but i'm no expert. " |
they made a go at moving to D1-A several years ago. At that point, there were several factors why they couldn't. Among the factors were:
- their stadium isn't nearly big enough. at the time, it seated maybe 9000-11,000 or something. i don't know what it's up to now, but it still might not be big enough
- one of the requirements for D1-A is something like there must be interstate access to the city, or else two 4-lane highways in and out of the town. Boone only has 1 4-lane road going into the town, highway 421 leading down to Winston-Salem where it meets I-40. Even that road was only fully 4-laned around 2002. Highway 321 from Hickory and Lenoir, through Blowing Rock and into Boone is being 4-laned right now. There are about 10 miles of very steep and windy road between Lenoir and Blowing Rock that is taking a long time. When they started the project back in 1998 or so, the projected finish time was 2013. No idea if they're still on schedule with that.
[Edited on December 10, 2007 at 12:18 AM. Reason : .]12/10/2007 12:16:54 AM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
App's stadium holds about 16,000 right now, but they sell about 24,000 tickets anyways for the hill and random people standing up and stuff. Traffic and tailgaiting would be a problem, because the stadium is basically carved out of a hill, and only has access on two sides, with one small parking lot on one side, and...a softball field on another, and a road and dorms on others. They are trying to build up the stadium, and put another level on the visitors side, and rebuild the fieldhouse/locker rooms (if they havent already) and ^hes right, all it is is 421 and 321, but really 321 is 4 lanes all the way to blowing rock. but in reality, they need to figure out some more streets to connect to rivers st (in the middle of campus) and 421 and 321 and probably bodenheimer or whatever runs up behind the math building
[Edited on December 10, 2007 at 4:30 AM. Reason : proof] 12/10/2007 4:29:10 AM |
FunkyVajjina All American 502 Posts user info edit post |
They need to dig the field down and add another level of seats where the track currently is located.
Get the fans closer to the field. At 18k people, it's one of the loudest stadiums I've been in because of the echoing off the hills and building. I could only imagine what it sounds like w/ 28k that they've had a few times this year. I would love to go back after they finish the renovations on both the Press/Luxury box and the East side stands. It's fun to go to games when the fans are having fun and win. 12/10/2007 10:31:25 AM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
As BCS fans we frown on hard work; consistent playing; exciting match ups; or anything else associated with a tournament style playoff for NCAA Football.
I mean it would be unfair if tOSU didn't just get to *poof* be in the title game.
So this could be the 3rd straight championship for App. Why do BCS fanatics not think a similar kind of tournament could not work for IA football?? If tOSU , FL, or any of the other BCS powerhouses were SOO good then steamrolling the tournament consecutive years would not be an issue; kind of like what App is doing.
If anyone remembers App lost to Wofford this year. Yet they still are going to the title game through hard work and beating up the other teams post-season. WVU fumbled the Pittsburgh game during the regular season and do not get to play for a title. Fact is the BCS system rewards "strategic scheduling" instead of "strategic on the field football"
[Edited on December 10, 2007 at 11:06 AM. Reason : a]
[Edited on December 10, 2007 at 11:07 AM. Reason : aa] 12/10/2007 11:05:11 AM |
fredbot3000 All American 5835 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "They cannot however call their fanbase good because outside of football, they don't support anything. They finished 2nd in the Southern Conference in basketball and the Holmes Center is always about half full with a good team. I mean they won a school record 25 games last year." |
i think the key differences are parking and nazism among the security at the convocation center. the town is cool about parking for football games, but not for basketball, and the security folks at basketball games... ugh. they're nazis in every way imaginable. they wouldn't let me into the davidson game because they said my id didn't look like me (i have a goatee and long hair now, whereas i didn't 2 years ago when i had my picture taken)12/11/2007 11:25:17 PM |
jamz0r All American 1612 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Why do BCS fanatics not think a similar kind of tournament could not work for IA football?? " |
The Almighty Dollar12/11/2007 11:28:46 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
i think 7 games (8 team playoff) could make more than the 4 games they play now. Have to work out sponsors and everything, but more games on tv between very good teams can't be bad? can it? 12/11/2007 11:34:09 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
They could keep the 32 bowls (-1) as locations for games played in a tournament. That way the bowls are left in tact, so Mobile, Alabama can still get revenue from the GMAC Bowl, yet you have a real way of determining a champion.
You could have 31 games for the top 32 teams, which may be more exciting than a 16 team tournament. Can anyone say upset special. Think about it, March Madness but in Dec. and January. 12/11/2007 11:58:20 PM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45180 Posts user info edit post |
never gonna happen for 32 fucking teams... top 16 or 12 perhaps but there is no way in hell they do 32 in any kind of playoff format.
the other 16-17 teams would squabble over bowls still but win or lose they are done after one.
[Edited on December 12, 2007 at 8:56 AM. Reason : s] 12/12/2007 8:55:11 AM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
but a tournament means tOSU could not just be placed in the title game 12/12/2007 12:41:17 PM |
akaseinfeld All American 1608 Posts user info edit post |
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/stewart_mandel/12/13/armanti.edwards/index.html 12/13/2007 3:38:49 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
here's the video linked from the SI article http://youtube.com/watch?v=_FQQONgG3Y4 Edwards is just so damned fast. His acceleration is unreal - i don't think I've ever seen a track sprinter who can accelerate like that. It's like when T.A. used to plow through converging defensive backs by putting his shoulders down and letting them bounce off of him. Edwards just zips through all those holes and the defense converges behind him 12/14/2007 8:15:08 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i like how the first clip of that video is him throwing a 5 yard swing pass that goes for a 50 yard td. 12/14/2007 9:09:21 AM |
DalCowboys All American 1945 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "App's stadium holds about 16,000 right now, but they sell about 24,000 tickets anyways for the hill and random people standing up and stuff. Traffic and tailgaiting would be a problem, because the stadium is basically carved out of a hill, and only has access on two sides, with one small parking lot on one side, and...a softball field on another, and a road and dorms on others. They are trying to build up the stadium, and put another level on the visitors side, and rebuild the fieldhouse/locker rooms (if they havent already) and ^hes right, all it is is 421 and 321, but really 321 is 4 lanes all the way to blowing rock. but in reality, they need to figure out some more streets to connect to rivers st (in the middle of campus) and 421 and 321 and probably bodenheimer or whatever runs up behind the math building" |
421 is expanding again up near Boone. I surveyed there a couple of years ago so I'm sure it has couple of years before it is actually complete. 2013 sounds about right12/14/2007 6:12:48 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
i really hope App gets their asses beat 12/14/2007 6:17:59 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "421 is expanding again up near Boone. I surveyed there a couple of years ago so I'm sure it has couple of years before it is actually complete. 2013 sounds about right" |
you seem to be mixing up a couple different roads. 421 comes into boone from the east, from Winston-Salem, through Wilkesboro and into Boone's east border. It is 4-lane all they way from I-40. It actually runs into King Street, the "main drag" through campus, which is 2 lanes, but you can branch off onto 105, which is 4-lane through town.
321 comes up from the south, from I-40 in Hickory, through Lenoir, though Blowing Rock, then into Boone. It is 4-laned between Hickory and just north of Lenoir, and also between Blowing Rock and Boone. They are currently widening the few 2-lane miles between Lenoir and Blowing Rock, but it is very rough terrain.12/14/2007 6:48:46 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
HOT
HOT
HOT 12/14/2007 7:25:10 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39305 Posts user info edit post |
EVEN WHEN ITS
COLD
COLD
COLD 12/14/2007 7:34:47 PM |
packdav New Recruit 31 Posts user info edit post |
hopefully app will be able to make runner up shirts this year.....GO DELAWARE 12/14/2007 7:49:51 PM |
stowaway All American 11770 Posts user info edit post |
laser, legend, bookworm 12/14/2007 8:02:59 PM |
Dexter Suspended 250 Posts user info edit post |
I should have tried to make it to the game tonight. I am in Chattanooga for an engagement party tomorrow night. 12/14/2007 8:07:23 PM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
ha, in bcs terms this is like watching Georgia play Illinois for the national title. 12/14/2007 8:13:13 PM |
Dexter Suspended 250 Posts user info edit post |
Who was #1 this year in I-AA? 12/14/2007 8:15:10 PM |
Stormbone865 All American 1642 Posts user info edit post |
^Northern Iowa 12/14/2007 8:18:30 PM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
yup, UNI made it to the 2nd round before losing to delaware. 12/14/2007 8:22:39 PM |
Stormbone865 All American 1642 Posts user info edit post |
FAIL for UD 12/14/2007 8:27:19 PM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
double fail 12/14/2007 8:33:37 PM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
that pass interference call was terrible 12/14/2007 8:54:49 PM |
statehockey8 All American 947 Posts user info edit post |
gotta love the "DELA-WHERE?" sign from App, since noone outside of NC knows where App is 12/14/2007 9:27:04 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
aha these crazy flags 12/14/2007 9:28:06 PM |
zebranky All American 1668 Posts user info edit post |
this has been the worst-officiated game 12/14/2007 9:28:21 PM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
i went to app for a year, but i almost feel like cheering for delaware after seeing how they've been fucked by the refs tonight 12/14/2007 9:29:44 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39305 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "this has been the worst-officiated game" |
12/14/2007 9:30:38 PM |
stowaway All American 11770 Posts user info edit post |
MEAC 12/14/2007 9:32:51 PM |
zebranky All American 1668 Posts user info edit post |
"the momentum did not last very long for the delaware blue hens"
you keep using that word. i do not think it means what you think it means.
[Edited on December 14, 2007 at 9:41 PM. Reason : haha, nice next-to-last play] 12/14/2007 9:35:40 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
aha
oh
my
lawls 12/14/2007 9:41:29 PM |
DalCowboys All American 1945 Posts user info edit post |
Garbage 12/14/2007 9:48:42 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
"when he became older he played with bigger balls." - Desmond Howard 12/14/2007 9:54:57 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
pat riley's gonna be looking for 3peat trademark t-shirt money 12/14/2007 10:25:48 PM |
Dexter Suspended 250 Posts user info edit post |
That scuba dude just said "division 1 championship" 12/14/2007 10:28:13 PM |
zebranky All American 1668 Posts user info edit post |
oh god the jinx on national tv 12/14/2007 10:40:51 PM |
LetsTAILGATE All American 2331 Posts user info edit post |
http://goasu.com/media/live/?fSession=2459a41079aa431351354a5c22efa451c1a333d8
sounds like a home game to me for ASU. How does it look on tv? listen to it on the link. I think this is great for app. 12/14/2007 10:51:24 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
and the crazy calls continue 12/14/2007 10:54:55 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
has a division 1 team ever lost to a division 1 champion and division 2 champion in the same year? assuming, well not assuming, but in the case that ohio state beats LSU, which won't happen i don't think 12/14/2007 10:56:06 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
12/14/2007 11:12:10 PM |
Stormbone865 All American 1642 Posts user info edit post |
Sealed 12/14/2007 11:14:33 PM |
zebranky All American 1668 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "oldest pimp alive
he's got more girls than.... we got girls" |
way to do your parents proud, son12/14/2007 11:22:24 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
aha the players proclaiming dude, "oldest pimp in the world" 12/14/2007 11:22:56 PM |
LetsTAILGATE All American 2331 Posts user info edit post |
Trey Elder.... 12/14/2007 11:27:29 PM |
Stormbone865 All American 1642 Posts user info edit post |
Aaaaaand they already start to storm the field..... 12/14/2007 11:28:17 PM |