skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
2nd
place for obama 1/8/2008 9:18:34 PM |
arcgreek All American 26690 Posts user info edit post |
funny, i'm seeing 39 and 36 percent
[Edited on January 8, 2008 at 9:19 PM. Reason : 39 percent of polls reporting] 1/8/2008 9:19:26 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
was in the 70's about 10 minutes ago but hillary is trading in the low 60's again.... this could be a nailbiter for the next hour or so 1/8/2008 9:22:01 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52840 Posts user info edit post |
little worried about voter turnout being strongly in favor of Dems in both Iowa and NH so far (don't know about WY) 1/8/2008 9:24:04 PM |
arcgreek All American 26690 Posts user info edit post |
hillary's got 39 percent and obama 36.......... where are you getting this? 1/8/2008 9:24:24 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
Hillary is trading slightly below 60% now... ew... obama is picking up momentum
Im saying 60% chance to win.... not the actual primary #'s 1/8/2008 9:25:20 PM |
arcgreek All American 26690 Posts user info edit post |
oh 1/8/2008 9:25:47 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
39 -37 1/8/2008 9:26:33 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
The gap is narrowing but Obama is running out of real estate.
I'll feel pretty confident if Hillary maintains a 2-3% lead with 50% reporting
Obama just traded at even money again. Christ.... from 70% to 50% in 20 minutes this is crazy
People arent taking big positions... no one is sure where this is headed
** Now Obama is trading as the 60% favorite.... making my stomach turn
Obama trades as a 2:1 favorite at 9:31
Heavy volume at 9:34 pushes Clinton back to just shy of even money.
9:37 Clinton trades at 60%. I have NEVER seen anythign like this in the political markets. Back and forth with conviction.
[Edited on January 8, 2008 at 9:37 PM. Reason : a] 1/8/2008 9:27:31 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52840 Posts user info edit post |
McCain didn't even hold MY attention through his entire speech.
Thankfully he usually does a lot better (though he's no Obama, Reagon, or JFK) 1/8/2008 9:38:59 PM |
arcgreek All American 26690 Posts user info edit post |
I flipped away due to him. He needs the "RRRaaaarrrrrrhhhh" back. 1/8/2008 9:39:55 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Edwards doesn't stand a chance in SC." |
Born there. Still lives in one the Carolinas. Won there last time. Has strong infrastructure in the area, between his connections there & having his campaign HQ here in NC, to do a lot of last minute work.
Also while Obama & Hillary will have to battle strongly for 1st in Nevada which comes next, Edwards can shift his attention starting tomorrow towards SC more so than the other two.
With each state so far the Edwards campaign seems to try to raise someone online funds starting a few days ahead of the primary for that state, but I'm already getting a few South Carolina one's and haven't heard a thing there about NV.
I think he does have a strong chance at the last campaign state before Super Tuesday, and that momentum I think gives him a pretty strong chance of getting into the white house, atleast as VP, especially if Obama is the overall winner rather than Hillary.
Also if Hillary wins tonight, that keeps either Obama or Hillary from being as strong as if one was a consistent winner.
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rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
^ dude he has no shot. Be real.
Obama is trading around 80-85% to win and Hillary is about 15-20%
Edwards isn't even trading at 1% (SC numbers)
Overall he's trading around 1% to win the Dem nomination
[Edited on January 8, 2008 at 9:45 PM. Reason : a] 1/8/2008 9:44:04 PM |
slamjamason All American 1833 Posts user info edit post |
Romney has actually pulled back to 5.5% down - maybe not as big of a win for McCain as thought 1/8/2008 9:44:09 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
souf carolina has black people
obama is black
QED
[Edited on January 8, 2008 at 9:45 PM. Reason : .] 1/8/2008 9:44:22 PM |
arcgreek All American 26690 Posts user info edit post |
I would hope black people wouldn't vote on just race....then again, it IS SC... 1/8/2008 9:45:26 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
They've waited for this for centuries and 95% of them voted for gore. 1/8/2008 9:46:36 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
Exactly. Even though black people dont usually vote the black people are so black in SC that the white people are scared to leave their houses to go to the polls
hillary trading around 2:1 fave
[Edited on January 8, 2008 at 9:48 PM. Reason : a] 1/8/2008 9:47:58 PM |
roguewolf All American 9069 Posts user info edit post |
is a NH win for Hillary really that big? wouldn't a senator from NY have better shots at this traditionally more conservative state?
I think Hillary will win out over Barack since she has steadily been holding a 2% lead.
What about that McCain speech?
At one point I felt the crowd was chanting "John McClain John McClain!" 1/8/2008 9:59:31 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
I mean its pretty damn big because Obama was predicted to win by double digits by everyone today.
This completely reverses the momentum and makes this race a pure dogfight from here on out.
Hopefully they both burn through their cash so McCain can take the election
10 PM Hillary is trading around 66% to win
10:04 PM Hillary trades at 80% to win. Unbelievable. Traded at 30% to win as recently as 9:30 PM
[Edited on January 8, 2008 at 10:05 PM. Reason : a] 1/8/2008 10:01:16 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
It's good to see Huckabee fail so miserably in NH. I'd like to see Obama win NH simply because I think Hilary is the worst possible option for Pres. of all candidates on either side. 1/8/2008 10:05:02 PM |
roguewolf All American 9069 Posts user info edit post |
I think you can be right if you spin it from the Clinton camp being the "comeback kids". They put the brakes on the Obama train today and now they can stage a "comeback" against the big dog. She has successfully set the bar low with her media outputs and let everyone eat crow it looks like.
Spin it from Obama's camp and you're still the out of no where candidate who almost stole a primary from Clinton's backyard. But they have to be careful not to get so far ahead of themselves with listening to the polls. I mean if he gets beat again when he was the favorite, he's in trouble.
But it will be a dogfight from here on out on the Democratic side between Clinton-Obama.
McCain-Romney will be just as bad as they move into the bible belt and Super tuesday. 1/8/2008 10:07:52 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i'm hoping the guy from chicago has some mafia connections that make him win in the end 1/8/2008 10:08:21 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52840 Posts user info edit post |
^^^no way. that would be Edwards, at least out of the major contenders (THE worst would be Kucinich)
[Edited on January 8, 2008 at 10:09 PM. Reason : ^^^] 1/8/2008 10:08:39 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
Romney looks dead in the water.
Giuliani is still running 2nd and Huckabee is the darkhorse in third. He could gain more momentum but as of now McCain is gaining momentum as the clear cut Repub favorite.
Hillary trading close to 90% for NH primary. This thing could be called now really but the media is going to let it hang for the ratings.
[Edited on January 8, 2008 at 10:11 PM. Reason : a] 1/8/2008 10:10:15 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52840 Posts user info edit post |
man, i still think it's pretty open on both sides 1/8/2008 10:13:16 PM |
roguewolf All American 9069 Posts user info edit post |
How is Rudy still in this as of today? Speculating futures yes, he can win Florida and other big states, probably NY.
But Romney isn't dead as long as the media keeps covering him as the darling to the boring McCain. I forgot about Huckabee though. Ha! Seriously GOP primary, I can't keep up.
and just as an aside, I hate HATE the mainstream media who get to spin all the topics.
they help give shitty non-representing states of Iowa and NH more weight than they should. Seriously, who cares who wins NH? How do they represent me in Mississippi?
they kill candidates because they didn't live up to their media polls. they canonize candidates because they are witty and speak to them on their programs.
i don't care who we here are voting for, because I trust mainly everyone that blogs/posts knows more than the average person who watches the MSM for their information. but thats why I can't stand them. b/c they still have so much weight in people's lives when all they do is promote old silly stupid politics
[Edited on January 8, 2008 at 10:17 PM. Reason : i hate talking heads] 1/8/2008 10:13:28 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Kucinich is as much a real candidate as you or I. He doesn't even have enough support to register as a blip on the radar.
My hope is that Ron Paul is able to garner enough support that the Republican party actually adopts some portion of his platform and drags itself away from the right wing christian nut jobs currently influencing it so much.
I'd much prefer the choice between a moderate dem and a moderate pub than seeing the country choose between Clinton and Huckabee. 1/8/2008 10:13:33 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
bwahhahaha john edwards mill 1/8/2008 10:15:47 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
edwards wife is horrible...i heard it in the other room and i was like uhhhhh 1/8/2008 10:16:47 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
And for some reason, this is actually the most interested I've been in an election since 1996, despite the fact that the only really compelling candidate is someone I likely won't vote for. 1/8/2008 10:17:09 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52840 Posts user info edit post |
^^ yeah, she sucks. She was just blabbering on about her husband being the "son of a mill worker". It's bad enough to hear the diarrhea that spews from his mouth--I don't want to hear it from her, too.
[Edited on January 8, 2008 at 10:18 PM. Reason : ^^] 1/8/2008 10:18:27 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
Futures market as of 10:15 PM
Rep. Nominee
McCain 36.3%
Rudy G. 27.1%
Huckabee 14%
Romney 10.5%
Dem nom:
Clinton 54%
Obama 45% 1/8/2008 10:18:29 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
What's playing on CNN right now is why John Edwards has no chance of winning the Democratic nomination. 1/8/2008 10:18:53 PM |
slamjamason All American 1833 Posts user info edit post |
lol Natalie again 1/8/2008 10:20:34 PM |
roguewolf All American 9069 Posts user info edit post |
b/c he plays Ford commercial music? 1/8/2008 10:21:01 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
john edwards is such a bitch...this speak proves it...blah blah blah poor natalie...now hes on some 51 year old dude boo hoo shut up loser
[Edited on January 8, 2008 at 10:21 PM. Reason : YOU DONT BE-LONG HERE!!!!!!] 1/8/2008 10:21:24 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
This guy is such a fucking homo I swear.
You are the asshole who drove all these expenses up so high.
Its despicable to run a campaign on anecdotes about people dying.
This isnt a fucking jury you cant homo yourself to victory.
[Edited on January 8, 2008 at 10:22 PM. Reason : a] 1/8/2008 10:21:45 PM |
Last Child Veteran 434 Posts user info edit post |
God, will Edwards just shut the fuck up about all these people he has met and spent time with. He is saying the exact same thing he said in Iowa. Please drop out already and save us from this shit. 1/8/2008 10:22:42 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Exactly. He's such a blatant panderer that I think even the idiots who vote democrat based on the tug of their heartstring can see through him. 1/8/2008 10:23:35 PM |
roguewolf All American 9069 Posts user info edit post |
hey health care pretty important so you all stfu.
edwards is a stump speech man, but he hasn't changed his speech since 2004. which is just kinda lame.
but its okay we all know you guys hate lawyers, unions, babies, and rainbows. 1/8/2008 10:24:34 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
god i hope its mccain versus obama 1/8/2008 10:25:20 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52840 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the boring McCain" |
hahaha
i know what you're saying after his speech tonight, but he is the least boring person in the race by MILES.
when he graduated from the naval academy, he arrived at flight school, bought a corvette, and started dating a well known local, umm, exotic dancer
pretty sure he crashed an airplane in flight school, got blown up by a stray Zuni rocket on the deck of the Forrestal when he got to Vietnam, got shot down over Vietnam after that, had bones broken, got bayonetted, and taken prisoner...he spent 5+ years in the Hanoi Hilton, including 2 in solitary confinement, enduring torture, and refusing early release unless they released all of his fellow prisoners with him.
he came back, recovered, and went back to flying, commanding the largest squadron in the Navy and ending up as a liason to Congress.
he was initially married to a model...they got divorced and he remarried young, hot, and rich. he has sired 7 children over FOUR DECADES.
then he ended up as a Congressman and a Senator, and has butted heads with half the people in Washington along the way. He is more of a badass than everyone else in the race combined.
[Edited on January 8, 2008 at 10:29 PM. Reason : i'd rather take a shit on a ballot as my write in than vote for Edwards. he sucks something awful.]1/8/2008 10:27:49 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
Corporations create jobs.
Washed up losers are a drain on society.
Fuck anyone who doesn't purchase health insurance.
Edwards doesn't even believe the garbage he's spewing. If he was a real man he'd be helping his wife right now instead of putting his ego/personal goals ahead of her life. 1/8/2008 10:28:24 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe he is helping her. Semen cures breast cancer 1/8/2008 10:29:50 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
the college towns with about 3 or 4k worth of votes that usually lean obama have yet to come back if i heard what i heard earlier right...that could help obama and paul catch up to the person in front of them 1/8/2008 10:30:47 PM |
roguewolf All American 9069 Posts user info edit post |
I didnt so much mean boring, as I did old. However that may be a good thing for him since I can see republicans voting for him this time since they missed the chance in 2000 and they know his record in Washington.
I mean McCain has staged one hell of a real comeback since shifting advisors months back.
And why does it feel Clinton winning NH is bigger than McCain? Its not like Democrats win it in november. 1/8/2008 10:32:43 PM |
roguewolf All American 9069 Posts user info edit post |
I thought 2/3 of the jobs are created by small business?
and MSNBC calls it for Clinton. 1/8/2008 10:33:39 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52840 Posts user info edit post |
because McCain was expected to win (albeit more narrowly)
Obama was projected to smack Hillary Clinton down in NH right up until the results started coming in. 1/8/2008 10:33:54 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Yup, there's very little excuse for not having health insurance. Frankly, it's not that expensive. If people would fix their priorities it wouldn't be such a problem. I'm curious as to what the overlap is between those without health insurance and those watching Edwards talk about it on cable TV. 1/8/2008 10:34:33 PM |