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2/2/2008 4:14:23 PM

I bet this dog is like 6'' tall and annoying as shit.

A muzzle isn't nice, sure. But it's not as bad as a blender.

2/2/2008 10:21:12 PM

^pretty much....fucker ate a slice of my pizza today and i went crazy on it....pissed outside twice and took a dump outside on my watch which was acceptable though

2/2/2008 10:24:08 PM

yo lewoods the cardboard idea is good

2/2/2008 10:26:11 PM

I interpreted the title as "Dr. House is training a dog."

2/2/2008 11:42:38 PM

Let's just say my dog learned real quick not to piss and shit in the house...

Everytime he does it, put him in a crate, tell him bad, etc. And reward him when he goes outside. Shouldn't take more than a week.

[Edited on February 3, 2008 at 12:51 AM. Reason : .]

2/3/2008 12:49:51 AM

ok..i'm about to walk her outside...shes half rat terrier, half jack russell terrier...she shakes when its like 50 or below outside...that pisses me off too...she has fur...bitch needs to get warm....fucking wimp


she been sleeping for like 3 hours so i bet she wants to pee now

2/3/2008 12:53:47 AM

just took her 3rd piss with me today...hasnt dookied since this morning around 10....kinda pissing me off....i get the feeling shes going to shit inside ...i know she always gets cold...well we were outside for about a minute before she pissed this time...i gave her a snack

[Edited on February 3, 2008 at 1:35 AM. Reason : .]

2/3/2008 1:14:08 AM

as i suspected, it shit inside...so i punished it...

2/3/2008 1:56:26 AM

Just stop, you're doing more harm than good.....

2/3/2008 7:37:52 AM

idk, it did manage to use the bathroom outside 4 times with me yesterday....i figure in a few days she wont never go inside anymore

[Edited on February 3, 2008 at 10:06 AM. Reason : .]

2/3/2008 10:05:50 AM

continue with the positive reinforcement and she'll stop
It sounds like the pup was doing better

punishing it is just going to do more harm - seriously. It will fear you and it might not make any more progress

2/3/2008 11:48:38 AM

i dont get why she shivers when she is in her crate...i can understand shivering if you are scared...but wtf, she is in a crate, she shouldnt be scared...she pissed in my room 3 times today...

[Edited on February 3, 2008 at 4:45 PM. Reason : the 3rd time was when i was punishing her for the second time]

she dookied outside today at about 1pm...was outside for like 2 minutes and took a shit...i was very pleased...

[Edited on February 3, 2008 at 4:46 PM. Reason : .]

2/3/2008 4:45:33 PM

I know the puppy pad thing is convenient, but oftentimes, especially in puppies who are still learning, it confuses them...sometimes its good for them to use the bathroom inside the house, and sometimes not (dogs aren't that smart) Also, they may also begin to "go" on anything that seems like a puppy pad; newspaper, books, homework...Most vets don't usually recommend this method of potty training. And this may be the link between why she is still going in the house.

Stick with the positive reinforcement and try to control yourself with the discipline...she will catch on. Dogs are much more responsive to good treatment, than bad, and remember good treatment a lot longer as well!

Similarly a puppy's memory span lasts for like 10 seconds, seriously they won't know what the hell your hitting them for anyway, if you aren't catching them in the act.

If you do catch them in the act, yell NO, pick her up, put her outside and praise her for going on the grass.

It works...your puppy is no different than the thousands of others who've caught on with this method.

2/3/2008 8:53:24 PM

Yup, punishing does not work for puppies, unless you yell at them while they are in the act.

Also, keep the door to your room closed.

2/3/2008 9:29:25 PM

the dog was in the crate during halftime til like 1:10....it shit outside and pissed outside all within like 10 minutes...we gave her much praise

[Edited on February 4, 2008 at 2:23 AM. Reason : i've never been so glad to see a dog get into that position to take a shit]

[Edited on February 4, 2008 at 2:23 AM. Reason : and to pee]

2/4/2008 2:22:45 AM

Puppies have to potty every 3 hours while they are being trained...

If you can't do that, then you need to crate train them...

It's not the dog's fault, he/she doesn't understand that "outside" time means "potty" time...

2/5/2008 10:52:44 AM

Crate train that dog DNL!

I crate trained Bomber when I got him at 13 weeks and he mostly had it down after a week.

Perhaps its varies by breed, but my dog did not have to pee every 3 hrs. 2 days after I got him it was back to work for me so he was in the crate for a solid 9 hrs.

I recommend crate training. After using it Bomber rarely has an accident and has NEVER had an accident when home alone (leading me to suspect the "accidents" aren't really accidents, lol)

2/5/2008 1:17:46 PM

yeah the puppy pad thing backfired on me

not to mention they will piss on the corner of the pad and it runs off

2/5/2008 1:20:21 PM

Smaller dogs have smaller bladders, with a JRT/rat mix it's gonna be harder to train and need to go out more often. Just how they are.

2/5/2008 8:09:37 PM

that's pretty flawed logic... of course they have smaller bladders... they have smaller mouths, tongues and stomachs too.. I know a lot of little dogs have poor bladder control, maybe that's what you were getting at.

2/5/2008 8:17:21 PM

Small dogs burn more energy per lb, therefore they need more food and water per lb, so they have to go poop and pee more often than bigger dogs.

I thought everyone knew that so I didn't explain it before.

2/5/2008 9:00:05 PM

Raising a puppy requires a lot of patience and time. Whining in the crate is very normal and it goes away after a while. Just ignore it when it's whining and it will eventually get the point. As a rule, try to take it outside to potty as soon as it gets out of it's crate. Straight from the crate to outside. If it's walking around inside - watch for the characteristic "circling and sniffing" behavior. When dogs are getting ready to potty they will sniff and walk around in circles. Apparently they are pretty particular about where they go potty. Another thing to consider is that it's just a puppy. You have to be really patience and understanding with puppies. They are like babies. And don't hit the puppy. I've seen dogs that get scared when you go to pet them. It's obvious that someone is beating the shit out of them. Again - consistency & routines are important.

2/6/2008 1:31:10 AM

crate training and getting on a good food schedule are key in this

2/6/2008 2:08:21 AM

I want to see pictures of this puppy. When I got my first puppy last year (2 month old Lab) - that first week was hell. I didn't think I'd survive the experience. Eventually they grow on you. I got a second dog this year (1 year old Beagle) - best decision I ever made. The little one follows the older one around so it's real easy to train her. And they wrestle all day long so they never get bored or lonely. I LOVE my doggies.

2/6/2008 2:24:16 AM

Quote :

"crate training and getting on a good food schedule are key in this"

Eh? Now you're giving advice? I thought you were the one asking for it.

2/6/2008 1:22:52 PM

Quote :

"and i've had 2 accidents since, like, saturday (and both of those i was gone waaaaaayyyyy tooo long. so i partially blame myself) took 2 days."

she did it exactly right, and yeah based on their age is about how long you can expect them to not crap inside after being trained

2/6/2008 2:18:14 PM

came home from school and she was alone in the apt in her cage...took her outside and she peed then dookied about 5 minutes later...shes sleeping next to me now...gonna put her in her cage when she wakes up probably, then like 2 hours later i'll take her outside to pee...i doubt she will dooky

2/6/2008 5:39:21 PM

hey do rustyish flakes of paint or bacitracin cause a dog to die?

so i just coaxed it into eating some food...then a little water...now its gonna stay in the cage for a little while...it gets to go do its business if it needs to in a few hours...just peeded again at like 6:30....wimpering and chewing the cage...no biggie...not as loud as she use to be

[Edited on February 6, 2008 at 7:11 PM. Reason : .]

2/6/2008 6:50:20 PM

so i've trained her pretty well....yesterday she dookied 3 times outside and peed outside like 5 times....didnt see her go inside the entire day....shes in her cage now learning that no matter how much she barks shes gonna have to hold it until 3pm

2/8/2008 1:15:09 PM

so i got my dog on saturday (see pics in gallery, he's a year old). i've got him to sleep in the crate at night and to go in when im going out and he seems to be potty-trained. no problem for two days - he waited till he got outside before he went.

i work during the week (~8 hours a day) - should i keep him in the crate or let him roam around the room? he hasn't been destructive and doesnt chew anything so i think he'll be fine.

2/10/2008 9:22:38 PM

Maybe try to confine him to the living room or kitchen first if you can. Give him little trial runs before you let him have free reign. Maybe let him free in the whole house for short periods of time (a couple hours) to see how he does initially. Shitting and pissing aren't the only things to worry about, I had a doberman who liked to eat socks and washcloths while he was loose and "unsupervised." He'd swallow them whole-3 exploratory surgeries later...my checking account and I decided he was better off elsewhere.

[Edited on February 10, 2008 at 11:11 PM. Reason : .]

2/10/2008 11:09:34 PM

i left him outside his crate during the day. it doesn't look like he chewed/swallowed anything (though i kept almost everything inside other than the furniture and my slippers). i came home from work for lunch and took him for a 20 minute walk.

it looks like he can do without his crate but i'll keep an eye on him this week to see if that changes. he has started chewing this soft toy that i got for him. should i get something for him to chew - what would you'll recommend.

2/11/2008 7:21:09 PM

Wow, I'm glad he did good. It sounds like if you're just adament about picking up before you head out that he'll do great!

With my dog I tended to stay away from the soft things (aside from his issue) he also would destroy those kinds of toys within a day or two and really enjoyed doing it! It looks like your dog is a good size, maybe part pit so I'd recommend those gargantuan rawhides at Petsmart. They are like doggie pacifiers and Syrus LOVED them. If you haven't offered him rawhides yet, try a cheaper (smaller) one first, since it seems not all dogs are big fans. They aren't the most easily digested so try to limit maybe one a week, although I'd just hand Syrus a new one after he'd finish. He didn't have and problems, maybe occasional diarrhea that lasted a day, not a big deal. Anyway that's my two cents!

Oh by the way, if your dog does like the stuffed toys and doesn't destroy them to quickly, you can pick up stuffed animals at goodwill for cheap! And then it won't hurt so bad when he rips it apart. Just make sure to cut out the plastic eyes.

2/11/2008 9:32:25 PM

I've read a lot of bad things about rawhide... opinions?

2/11/2008 9:34:21 PM

What have you heard?

2/12/2008 9:24:12 AM

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"No rawhide chews - Do not ever give your dog rawhide chews or bones, or anything made of rawhide! Choking, obstructions forming in the stomach or intestines, transfer of salmonella, and in unregulated production they can be preserved with toxic chemicals! Rawhide is not a good thing to give your dog, it's not even an OK thing! "

Quote :

"Several serious potential problems with rawhide strips: they can break off in sharp pieces, be swallowed and damage the stomach or intestines; many are made overseas in unsafe conditions and may contain toxic materials (always buy produced in USA - made in USA can just mean packaged here); they don't digest easily and large pieces can cause blockages."

just the first two that showed up on google... sounds more like it's a problem when they don't really chew them up well and just gulp them down in large and/or sharp pieces

2/12/2008 10:06:22 AM

You guys reckon I'll have any luck house training a dog who is 10 years old, getting ready to be fixed (i.e. now he pees to mark, not necesairly because he "has" to... and as a 100lb dog he's got a pretty big bladder!) and has been an outside dog all his life? We rescued this dog when he was on his way to the pound.

I just feel bad for him b/c our other dog comes in the house rather frequently (she is house trained and is used to being an inside dog) - and then he pouts b/c he wants to come in the house too. We've tried bringing him in before, but just can't seem to break him of the habit of "marking" - i doubt it'll help when he does get fixed, b/c he is so old...... but I guess I can always hope.

2/12/2008 12:16:46 PM

^ good luck on that Catherine

put a diaper on him! (jk)

I'd say try it but he probably won't stop marking especially in a new house with new smells to cover up. maybe keep him on a leash in the house or restrict him to certain rooms??

2/12/2008 8:17:51 PM

^^I heard older dogs are quick learners

2/12/2008 8:33:52 PM

nix the rawhide and go for a bully stick instead.

2/13/2008 12:16:34 PM

It's personal preference. I haven't encountered any negative aspects with rawhides, sometimes I catch the small pieces, sometimes I don't. I have heard about some of the issues with rawhide not produced in the US, and typically go for USA cows. Generally, I think people tend to be a bit too overprotective with dogs, tend to anthropomorphize a bit too much! And correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't bully sticks...rawhides?!

2/13/2008 2:01:48 PM

Oh I'm sorry...I wiki'ed it...."A bully stick, also known as a "beef stick" or pizzle, is a dog treat made from a bull's penis and dried." I rest my case!

[Edited on February 13, 2008 at 2:03 PM. Reason : .]

2/13/2008 2:02:21 PM

no, a bully stick is not rawhide

instead of trying to explain it myself...first on google: http://www.isnare.com/?aid=214227&ca=Pets

[Edited on February 13, 2008 at 2:20 PM. Reason : link]

2/13/2008 2:17:59 PM

might post a pic eventually...shes been pretty bad lately...oh well

2/13/2008 3:50:39 PM

sebastian finally got through chewing his soft toy and ripped it today. i've kept it away from him so he doesnt eat the cotton (he swallowed a couple of small pieces of cotton but he should be fine).

can anyone suggest a good chew toy....a rubber toy maybe? any one in particular?

2/13/2008 8:10:03 PM

I haven't seen any problems with rawhide either. As long as it's made for dogs to chew on it should be safe.

2/13/2008 11:40:19 PM

My dog almost choked on rawhide. I'd suggest giving them raw bones instead, like chicken necks.

2/14/2008 12:01:07 AM

I dunno, my dog is such an avid chewer...I am quite sure chicken necks and dried bull penis won't cut it! A 2 foot bone keeps his attention for about 5 days however. I'll stick to what works. There's such a big push for organic and raw diets, but you can't possibly tell me that giving a dog half a chicken is any worse than an occasional rawhide.

2/14/2008 1:14:55 AM

This thread makes me miss my dog.


got him all house trained and everything, made him into an inside dog. Then I got deployed, and he's been livin with my dad, but my dad makes him live outside.

After him being outside for 2 years, I'm wondering how difficult it'll be turning him back into an inside dog again.

(he's now a 4 year old black lab).

2/14/2008 3:51:36 AM