Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "last month the usair in flight magazine had a full page hgh ad
just sayin" |
self-pwnt 2/13/2008 11:43:32 AM |
Senez All American 8112 Posts user info edit post |
The MRI report is interesting. 2/13/2008 11:46:54 AM |
NCSUMEB All American 2530 Posts user info edit post |
That guy should have just come in wearing a Clemens jersey, and a hat that said "Rocket" across the top...How can you not understand McNamee's position,......Toolbag reporter asks you a question that could destroy your livelihood with no proof, lie...the federal government with substantial proof and threatens severe penalty asks you a question, tell the truth, pretty basic if you ask me....
Now the real issue, I don't think Clemens will serve any time, and I think McNamee could get anywhere in the 7-10M range for his book, everyone will buy this thing.
[Edited on February 13, 2008 at 11:51 AM. Reason : .] 2/13/2008 11:47:34 AM |
Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
yeah so far, despite the douche from Indiana, McNamee's conflicts make a lot more sense than Roger's
[Edited on February 13, 2008 at 11:53 AM. Reason : Canseco party is kinda strange though] 2/13/2008 11:53:28 AM |
ViolentMAW All American 4127 Posts user info edit post |
i wish i could watch this 2/13/2008 11:54:59 AM |
Gumbified All American 1304 Posts user info edit post |
I don't understand how anybody can take what McNamee says as credible...he's lied so many times its not even funny 2/13/2008 11:59:04 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
he's lied to reporters, sure.
what i still want to know is, why does congress care about any of this? 2/13/2008 12:02:58 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
lol, i guess this guy doesn't watch baseball. 2/13/2008 12:06:47 PM |
NCSUMEB All American 2530 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't understand how anybody can take what McNamee says as credible...he's lied so many times its not even funny" |
Translation= I like Clemens, let him off the hook. So Pettitte is a liar too? Because he accused Clemens of the same thing. Guess what, getting interrogated by some beat reporter before the steroids "boom" is a little different than when the Federal Govt. knocks on your doorstep threatening jail time if you don't tell the truth after the the steroids boom. A 6 year old can understand this concept. You've never heard of a criminal deny deny deny, and then law enforcement turns up the heat, conveys they have substantial proof, and then the suspect gives in and tells the truth.2/13/2008 12:08:36 PM |
Gumbified All American 1304 Posts user info edit post |
LOL
This hearing has proved absolutely nothing, literally nothing. There is still no evidence, there never will be, barring a confession from Clemens himself its all HEARSAY.
Are you actually watching any of this? McNamee sounds like a fool answering his questions. He can't remember is unsure ect, at least Clemens story stays the same. McNamee can't remember if he put on his fucking underwear this morning.
Maybe Clemens did use steriods, at this point we still have no conclusive evidence that he did. I want to see what Andy Pettite said in his deposition it would be interesting if we can see that later in the hearing.
Sorry I'm not so ready to throw a guy under a bus w/o proof, and this hearing has shown none so far. It's laughable at best. 2/13/2008 12:14:19 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Pettitte said that he and Clemens discussed using HGH multiple times. 2/13/2008 12:19:26 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i think andy pettite's the only guy i trust in all of this.
good guy, that andy pettite. 2/13/2008 12:22:54 PM |
ncsu1128 Veteran 227 Posts user info edit post |
send them both to jail...in the same cell
this isn't really going anywhere...both seem to be telling a little of the truth and a little bit of lies
but it seems pettite thinks roger used hgh 2/13/2008 12:27:03 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
I dont doubt that Roger was shot with more than just B12. but this trainer guy isn't looking to good in all this. I understand he lied before to protect Roger and now that the heat is on him he is telling the truth.. At least that's how I can justify believing Roger took the good stuff. They only thing they can send anyone to jail for at this time is perjury. Rogers reputation will take a hit on this. And ultimately his fate lies with the Hall of Fame voters. 2/13/2008 12:27:14 PM |
Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah just like the last guy was saying, McNamee told just enough of the truth to get by each time. Makes sense to me
oh that's nice. Applause for Clemens followed by the important question of what jersey he'll wear in the hall of fame.
[Edited on February 13, 2008 at 12:35 PM. Reason : ] 2/13/2008 12:32:15 PM |
ncsu1128 Veteran 227 Posts user info edit post |
mcnamee sounds like a liar...
but pettite, knoblauch and i think others have all agreed with him so it tough to say
...and why does the canseco party keep coming up, its not like they were shooting roids there
[Edited on February 13, 2008 at 12:37 PM. Reason : s] 2/13/2008 12:35:02 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
it's just a big hole in mcnamee's story. 2/13/2008 12:39:50 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "...and why does the canseco party keep coming up, its not like they were shooting roids there" |
Because it's the most likely thing for McNamee to be lying about.
But it seems like the nanny's comments are going to bury Clemens.2/13/2008 12:40:17 PM |
Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
man this nanny stuff is great 2/13/2008 12:42:35 PM |
Senez All American 8112 Posts user info edit post |
aha, lawyers pwnt 2/13/2008 12:44:16 PM |
bigun60 All American 1069 Posts user info edit post |
These politicians are idiots. 2/13/2008 12:44:38 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Haha, shit is getting real...
This is great. YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH! 2/13/2008 12:44:51 PM |
Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
I don't know which feud is bigger, McNamee vs. Clemens or Waxman vs. Hardin 2/13/2008 12:46:23 PM |
Senez All American 8112 Posts user info edit post |
THEY BROUGHT THE BOSS INTO IT! 2/13/2008 12:46:54 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I bet the Nanny is hot... early 30's and slim... can we get a better description Mr. Clemens? 2/13/2008 12:52:20 PM |
Senez All American 8112 Posts user info edit post |
lunch break! 2/13/2008 12:56:30 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
What a MAN this Clemens guy is.. Throwing his wife under the bus. lol 2/13/2008 1:02:25 PM |
Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
Someone needs to find that Cingular/AT&T dropped call ad with Clemens and his wife and redub it 2/13/2008 1:04:45 PM |
tennwa33 All American 920 Posts user info edit post |
I missed the nanny stuff. Did she say Roger was at the Canseco party? 2/13/2008 1:06:07 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
"Mr. Clemens, I'm sure you're going to heaven."
Hahahahahaha, holy shit. Just go ahead and slap the guy in a jumpsuit, he's going to jail. 2/13/2008 1:06:13 PM |
Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I missed the nanny stuff. Did she say Roger was at the Canseco party?" |
apparently she said Clemens and his family were at his house sometime within those 2 days and even spent the night2/13/2008 1:07:43 PM |
Senez All American 8112 Posts user info edit post |
The rep that asked him about what he should say to his kids and then asked what uniform he's wearing in the hall of fame....should be shot. Totally inappropriate and ridiculous. 2/13/2008 1:13:19 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
they had a late night steroid sesh 2/13/2008 1:19:01 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
His nanny was an illegal!! 2/13/2008 1:22:55 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Clemens should have never showed up. What we're seeing is exactly what you'd expect when a bunch of trained law professionals grill a meat head. At least Palmeiro, McGwire and the rest were smart enough to just not say much of anything at all. Clemens looks more and more guilty every time he opens his mouth. Huge mistake to show up and a terrible job by his lawyers preparing him.
[Edited on February 13, 2008 at 1:24 PM. Reason : :] 2/13/2008 1:23:15 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
^ yup. He walked into a hornets nest
I wanna see Pettitte on the hot seat. 2/13/2008 1:25:25 PM |
bigun60 All American 1069 Posts user info edit post |
^ I think differently. I think he's sticking to his story and he's very strong about it. 2/13/2008 1:25:52 PM |
Senez All American 8112 Posts user info edit post |
It's terrible that it's come this far, but with all the recanting he's done, he really must feel he can beat this thing. Too bad. He won't do any jail time, but it would've been easier on everyone involved if he had already admitted it. 2/13/2008 1:29:37 PM |
Turnip All American 5426 Posts user info edit post |
This is so absurd, and retarded. I love it! 2/13/2008 1:30:35 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
Is anyone else really pissed off that our hard earned money is being wasted by the government to find out if some people lied about taking steriods. ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS!?!?! 2/13/2008 1:31:43 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
2/13/2008 1:32:21 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
it's not like congress gets anything done anyway. 2/13/2008 1:34:23 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think he's sticking to his story and he's very strong about it." |
Dude, he just back peddled on the whole party issue, admitting that he may have shown up after all (but he wasn't doing a drug deal, lololol).2/13/2008 1:34:42 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
WHAT THE FUCK'S HE TALKING ABOUT? 2/13/2008 1:37:44 PM |
Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think he's sticking to his story and he's very strong about it." |
When he doesn't have a good answer for certain questions, all he does is go back to the blanket "I have never used steroids" or talk about how great of a man he is2/13/2008 1:40:17 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
What a Patriot! What a man!
I wonder which former President contacted him? 2/13/2008 1:41:00 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
roffle. son called out. 2/13/2008 1:41:36 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I wonder which former President contacted him?
" |
Had to be Bill..
" I did not inject that man, Roger Clemens with steroids."(bites lip)2/13/2008 1:43:13 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Braley asks, "Why would you trust your body to somebody who has no professional training to take care of you?" Clemens says, "I'm a trusting guy."" |
I can't believe I just heard that.
[Edited on February 13, 2008 at 1:49 PM. Reason : :]2/13/2008 1:48:51 PM |
NCSUMEB All American 2530 Posts user info edit post |
This is exactly what Bud Selig said from the beginning of time until 05 about the usage of steroids, I don't think he's LOLing now to much
Quote : | "This hearing has proved absolutely nothing, literally nothing. There is still no evidence, there never will be, barring a confession from Clemens himself its all HEARSAY." |
Every major league ball player who uses steroids would love it if you were the commissioner, they'd pay you handsomely.
Quote : | "...and why does the canseco party keep coming up," |
because it's an attempt for the Clemens supporters to deviate from the important facts. Pettite used, had Mcnamee as a trainer, Knaublauch used, had McNamee as a trainer, Clemens .....had McNamee as a trainer.. BUT WAIT, MCNAMEE'S MEMORY IS FOGGY ABOUT A BARBECUE PARTY, OR WORSE YET, HE LIED ABOUT CLEMENS BEING AT THE PARTY, ALERT THE FEDS, CLEMENS IS INNOCENT OF TAKING STEROIDS BECAUSE MCNAMEE LIED ABOUT HIS BEING AT A BARBECUE! Nevermind all the other relevant evidence2/13/2008 1:51:25 PM |