Thecycle23 All American 5913 Posts user info edit post |
Once again, Technician doesn't get money from the University.
Seriously, ignore budget issues if you want, but I mean, everyone else lives in the real world. There have been outside issues with ad sales all year that were not there the previous few years (there also was no DTH a couple years ago, but that's neither here nor there).
I'm told they're going to work on producing one from now on, regardless of ad sales. If there aren't enough ad sales to print, they'll post a PDF of the page online. It was too late in the process to do that this year.
Also, they can't just post the stories that are written for it online because of legal issues. Spoof issues/stories have to be VERY CLEARLY spoof issues and stories. Simply posting them online on the regular Technician Web site is not clear enough. Lots of bad things can happen.
Also, for Page 2:
marko FTW.
Make your own signs, courtesy of marko and his website.
http://wolfpackcartoons.com/
[Edited on February 20, 2008 at 10:29 AM. Reason : marko wins] 2/20/2008 10:28:45 AM |
bigun20 All American 2847 Posts user info edit post |
These youngans these days don't care about traditions. 2/20/2008 10:29:38 AM |
budman97420 All American 4126 Posts user info edit post |
should have just done the spoof and cancelled the regular edition for today (if both couldn't be done)
[Edited on February 20, 2008 at 10:30 AM. Reason : .] 2/20/2008 10:29:51 AM |
jmpack15 All American 4470 Posts user info edit post |
technician not running this is a complete joke. do you how many alumni swing by campus to pick up a copy of this?
the only thing the technician is good for on a daily basis is the police blotter. 2/20/2008 10:33:45 AM |
Thecycle23 All American 5913 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, that may sound like a reasonable suggestion (to print only DTH spoof).
But here's why it can't work:
Ad sales are predicated on placement. Some ads are sold with the intent of being placed on color or black and white pages. Also, obviously, on ad size.
If Company A buys a quarter page ad to go on Color Page 3, that's where it goes. The editorial staff has to work around the ad placement.
Company A would probably be dismayed to find out its ad was not placed according to the terms of the sale.
It's just not as simple as BAKE SALE 4 DTH!!1 2/20/2008 10:34:13 AM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
company a should realize this is tradition 2/20/2008 10:36:47 AM |
jmpack15 All American 4470 Posts user info edit post |
throw $5 more in the student tuition next year for god's sake. 2/20/2008 10:39:44 AM |
Thecycle23 All American 5913 Posts user info edit post |
^^ hahaha...maybe so. 2/20/2008 10:41:03 AM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
whomever budgets spending for the year should make a point to set aside money for the DTH if the budget is that tight. add placement bullshit aside, there should be money for a once a year tradition like this.
[Edited on February 20, 2008 at 10:46 AM. Reason : akd] 2/20/2008 10:46:18 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
2/20/2008 10:55:27 AM |
DoeoJ has 7062 Posts user info edit post |
sad 2/20/2008 10:56:18 AM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
if we lose, i'm blaming the technician
seriously though... why don't they just take out a few of the shitty articles in the middle of the paper and print the Daily Tar Hell instead... and I'm sure more people read the Technician today than most days, so wouldn't the Ad Sales Department have an easier time selling ads on this day... just seems completely pathetic
and at the VERY least, couldn't they have at least made a PDF version or online version?
[Edited on February 20, 2008 at 10:58 AM. Reason : .] 2/20/2008 10:56:19 AM |
norcar187 Veteran 113 Posts user info edit post |
I dont know about you guys...
But I would much rather read about "Grime on Raleigh cars a lasting result of the drought" MUCH more than a DTH spoof.
2/20/2008 11:07:13 AM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
2/20/2008 11:07:59 AM |
Thecycle23 All American 5913 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "PDF version or online version" |
No to an online version, PDF version *should* come from now on, at the very least.2/20/2008 11:09:48 AM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
Terrible decision. If budgetary concerns are indeed the only reason why it was not produced this year, then it seems that someone could have been creative enough to come up with something. I actually enjoyed the technician when I was in school, but most people didn't and there were TWO things that everyone loved and paid attention to. Crossword puzzles and the Daily Tar Heel. How do you manage to let budget concerns fuck one of those up?
Either that, or divert some student funds from the nubian message and the agromeck (two completely worthless productions that noone reads). 2/20/2008 11:20:21 AM |
richthofen All American 15758 Posts user info edit post |
Well shit. I was worried that I didn't think to pick up a copy on my way to work this morning and that they'd all be gone by the time I could get one this afternoon--guess I don't have to worry about it now.
Yes, yes, there are valid budgetary reasons and all, but--this is, in my opinion, the most looked forward to issue of Technician all year for many students, and they just cancel it? Again??? (IIRC this also happened a couple of years ago.) I usually try not to slam the Technican staff too much--I read it practically every day--but this is just ridiculous. I'm sure it's not an easy job to sell ads etc. for a student paper, but they're clearly doing a poor job of it. 2/20/2008 11:35:31 AM |
slackerb All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
I'll chime in and agree that this is the one issue you shouldn't fuck up...set aside monetary funds FOR this issue.
A huge letdown. The DTH is one of the few redeeming features of the Technician year in and year out....and you can't ever get that right.
Fuck. 2/20/2008 11:44:32 AM |
daddywill88 All American 710 Posts user info edit post |
Dear Technician
You have true failed me this year. Every time I open the Technician's Viewpoint section I see an article along the lines of, "Bring Back Old Traditions," or "Support This or That New Tradition." Well, Technician, you have a Tradition too, THE DAILY TAR HELL. Evidently you do not understand the significance of this issue. I had three family friends as well as my brother, who are all alumni, ask me to get them a copy. Now what am I supposed to tell them? That the Technician is too lazy to put a little extra effort to cheer up thousands of peoples days.
I am also a little confused on the budget issue. You did have enough money to print a full page full color article on NC State students working at animal shelters. You also had a full page color article on the dust on cars in Raleigh. You didn't, however, have enough money to print a one page black and white insert. I'm sure if you would have told anyone ahead of time that you would not be able to print this issue, some alumni or student group would have funded it. Why did we even need a regular issue today? If this was only because of ad sales then your marketing department is a failure.
I think one of two things happened. You forgot about it because you really don't understand the hatred for UNC that dwells in many of us, or you were told by some "higher power" that the last issue was offensive and you didn't have the guts to print the paper.
You have truly failed every faculty member, student, and alumni of this great institution. 2/20/2008 11:47:24 AM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
2/20/2008 11:48:22 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
it really is a terrible, terrible paper. 2/20/2008 11:49:41 AM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "From the Editor's Desk Apologies for no Daily Tar Hell spoof Josh Harrell Issue date: 2/20/08 Section: News
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Due to budgetary restraints this year, the Technician was unable to print this year's edition of the Daily Tar Hell -- the annual spoof edition of UNC's student newspaper. The edition historically came out on the day N.C. State's men's basketball team faces the Tar Heels in Raleigh. I know many of you have come to expect the Daily Tar Hell each year, and we apologize for not being able to run it. It's an edition that we enjoy producing and something we look forward to each year. Any thoughts on us not printing the edition this year are welcome as always. We are grateful for your continued support and interest in our newspaper." |
2/20/2008 11:50:15 AM |
dbmcknight All American 4030 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it really is a terrible, terrible paper." |
On a daily basis, really. The articles are often uninteresting and poorly written, the editorial/viewpoint/opinion columns have sucked this year, and the paper itself is roughly 60% ADVERTISEMENTS. Sup with that?2/20/2008 11:57:52 AM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
^ something's got to pay for the DTH.
oh wait 2/20/2008 12:04:47 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
they should prob just drop this paper, and give incoming students a crossword puzzle book that will last them 4 years in college where the same puzzle comes back up every 5th or 6th time 2/20/2008 12:05:19 PM |
WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
Budgetary restrictions? Ad sales?
That is a total crock of shit, you could sell ads SPECIFICALLY for the Daily Tar Hell, even for higher prices because you could guarantee all of the advertisers that THIS SINGLE ISSUE WOULD BE THE MOST READ ISSUE ALL YEAR.
How about we hear the truth, probably Tom Stafford didn't want to offend anyone who went to carolina, much like that bullshit 'positive noise' that they put on all of the fan cheering sheets.
I think the administration threw down a politically correct ultimatum and the staff were forced to provide some excuse about budget and ads..... 2/20/2008 12:08:31 PM |
Thecycle23 All American 5913 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha definitely not.
Feeling like the budgetary reasons are not good enough are all positively valid opinions to hold.
But that ^ is definitely not true. 2/20/2008 12:09:46 PM |
WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
I do love a good conspiracy theory though
[Edited on February 20, 2008 at 12:11 PM. Reason : ] 2/20/2008 12:11:24 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
it is apparent the cycle works for the paper and will not discuss with us the real reason 2/20/2008 12:12:02 PM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
Just quit publishing the damn paper and save some trees. The Technician is almost as pathetic as our atheletics programs.
[Edited on February 20, 2008 at 12:14 PM. Reason : ] 2/20/2008 12:14:08 PM |
pooljobs All American 3481 Posts user info edit post |
How do they manage their budget? How do you get this far into the year without knowing that you haven't left money for this? Just include this when you make the budget and come up with ad revenue goals. It doesn't seem like it should be this hard to plan for something you know is going to happen every year. 2/20/2008 12:15:27 PM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
at least we can read about the grime on cars in Raleigh.
fascinating stuff 2/20/2008 12:16:22 PM |
wolfdawg4 All American 5866 Posts user info edit post |
This is the most disappointing day as far as the paper goes. In the table about the last 5 games vs unc at the RBC Center, they have one of the table headings as Duke's Ranking. If you're not going to do the DTH, at least proof read the freaking thing.
[Edited on February 20, 2008 at 12:19 PM. Reason : .] 2/20/2008 12:18:27 PM |
Thecycle23 All American 5913 Posts user info edit post |
haha...I do not work there anymore. I was a Deputy Sports Editor from April 2007 until my graduation this past December.
But I am still in the loop a little because I'm close friends with a lot of the people there.
The real reason is what I've said: budget restrictions.
As for a conspiracy theory...
If there was one, I suppose I'd be a part of it. 2/20/2008 12:20:55 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
ok but here's the thing about the "budget".
the technican is an absolute piece of shit. unless every penny they have has gone to buying new crossword puzzles, there's no reason to not have the budget to do the DTH. 2/20/2008 12:23:23 PM |
Thecycle23 All American 5913 Posts user info edit post |
I'll be sure to pass your feedback along. 2/20/2008 12:33:08 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
please do. 2/20/2008 12:39:13 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
RAWR RAWR RAWR 2/20/2008 12:40:35 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " NO
DAILY
TARHELL
CLAP.. CLAP.. CLAPCLAPCLAP" |
2/20/2008 12:55:59 PM |
TGD All American 8912 Posts user info edit post |
Folks who are upset over the lack of a DTH spoof, think about running for the Student Media Board of Directors positions that are available. More info here:
http://students.ncsu.edu/vote/ 2/20/2008 1:50:42 PM |
richthofen All American 15758 Posts user info edit post |
Also, on a somewhat unrelated note, does the Technician even *have* anyone who proofs the articles? Misspellings, poor captions, and grammatical errors are absolutely rampant. I actually thought about trying to sign on a year or two ago, except that evidently to be on Technician staff you have to be a full-time student, which I am not. 2/20/2008 5:12:18 PM |
wilso All American 14657 Posts user info edit post |
yes, each story is supposed to be read at least a few times. sometimes an older (unproofed) version of the story is pulled onto the page during design. sometimes the staff just has to meet deadline. 2/20/2008 6:39:58 PM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
I was very disappointed to find no Daily Tar Hell today. I assume its a lack of writing talent and a lack of resources.
Dammit State, grow some traditional testicles. 2/21/2008 2:47:57 AM |
Thecycle23 All American 5913 Posts user info edit post |
hahahahahahahaha....OK buddy. Whatever makes you feel good.
Lack of resources...sort of, nothing at ALL to do with the writing staff though.
[Edited on February 21, 2008 at 7:27 AM. Reason : ] 2/21/2008 7:26:06 AM |
Defenestrate All American 2158 Posts user info edit post |
LOL gunzz ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
look on page 3 in the article titled:
Not a spoof, an improvement
QUALITY. 2/21/2008 8:47:38 AM |