Quote :

"lololol and don imus was just discussing hair styles "

Wow

4/28/2008 12:01:25 PM

that analogy must've flown right over your head

unless you truly think that all Wright is doing is "discussing America's foreign policy", which you probably do

4/28/2008 12:02:07 PM

ok what if a dem tells a repub that he doesnt feel wright is that important...whats a repub say to that...thats a pretty strong argument imo

4/28/2008 12:03:35 PM

So are you stupid enough to believe our foreign policy had nothing to do with 9-11?

DO YOU THINK THEY WERE JEALOUS OF OUR FREEDOM??? LOL

So, yeah, how the fuck was him saying that america's chickens have come home to roost RACIST anyway?

Redstains441 has gotta be retarded or something

4/28/2008 12:07:59 PM

yep..having troops in other countries is clearly a good enough reason to fly airplanes into our buildings and kill thousands of citizens...if only we didnt have troops in a make-believe holy land, we wouldnt give psychotic religious freaks the green light to commit kamikaze attacks on our citizens...damn you foreign policy! its all the US's fault!

when the cops arrest me for shooting somebody, i always try to tell them its the fault of their stupid laws...if the US didn't have certain laws that my crazy religion didn't agree with I wouldn't have to go shoot those people...fucking American laws are the reason I murdered those people

4/28/2008 12:10:09 PM

try again

4/28/2008 12:11:04 PM

dnl, Wright isnt important. He is just another nut in this country.

What is important is that the man running for president endorses this idiot. Along with his wive's comments, it paints an entirely different picture of what the man says.

So do we have more or less troops in thier holy land after 9/11?

[Edited on April 28, 2008 at 12:12 PM. Reason : .]

4/28/2008 12:11:11 PM

just as i thought, that also flew right over terp's head

4/28/2008 12:12:23 PM

Yeah, because Wright is a different kind of pastor than what you're used to - just call him a nut... that's productive. That's just the American way, isn't it?

I don't understand him, he must be a nut.

4/28/2008 12:12:48 PM

you know terp, most Obama supporters have long conceded that Wright is a nut, but they've been able to justify their continued support of Obama, based on the fact that Obama isn't Wright, and Wright isn't running for president

you're one of those dumbfucks who is still trying to defend Wright

4/28/2008 12:13:50 PM

what about jerry falwell and pat robertson saying 9/11 was because of the gays in America? Those are two individuals who George Bush seems to have either endorsed or is continuing to endorse.

4/28/2008 12:15:09 PM

when you hear me ever defending falwell or robertson, you can feel free to confront me with those comparisons

4/28/2008 12:15:36 PM

Your Boy Bushie sure did and does.

4/28/2008 12:16:00 PM

Quote :

"you know terp, most Obama supporters have long conceded that Wright is a nut, but they've been able to justify their continued support of Obama, based on the fact that Obama isn't Wright, and Wright isn't running for president you're one of those dumbfucks who is still trying to defend Wright "

Oh, and now because I'm willing to try to understand a culture that obviously scared the shit out of you, I'm a dumbfuck! Good job! You are really letting you scared shitless true colors shine

[Edited on April 28, 2008 at 12:16 PM. Reason : ]

4/28/2008 12:16:21 PM

what culture is that? black liberation theology? hey maybe if i was willing to understand the Aryan Nation, a culture which scares the shit out of you, that would make me a dumbfuck?

yes actually it would make me a dumbfuck...great job champ, for admitting you're a dumb fuck

4/28/2008 12:18:01 PM

The fact that you associate Black Liberation Theology with the Aryan Nation shows you have aboslutely no understanding of either philosophy.

4/28/2008 12:19:19 PM

Quote :

"when the cops arrest me for shooting somebody, i always try to tell them its the fault of their stupid laws...if the US didn't have certain laws that my crazy religion didn't agree with I wouldn't have to go shoot those people...fucking American laws are the reason I murdered those people "

This is a really poor comparison to make if you're trying to convey a point. Furthermore, the 9/11 commission report stated that our foreign policy was partially to blame. Most countries do value their sovereignity and can go on the offensive when they see that being threatened. Do you presuppose this had nothing to do with 9/11?

4/28/2008 12:19:38 PM

Quote :

"the 9/11 commission report stated that our foreign policy was partially to blame"

the police report stated that the rape victim was partially to blame

4/28/2008 12:20:10 PM

you are unbelievable sometimes

4/28/2008 12:21:54 PM

Quote :

"The fact that you associate Black Liberation Theology with the Aryan Nation shows you have aboslutely no understanding of either philosophy. "

I was about to type something similar, I think the fact that Treetwista made that comparison speaks volumes about him. He has some sort of deep-rooted stupidity that I can't put my finger on.

4/28/2008 12:22:26 PM

anyone watching David Duke on FoxNews?

He seems pretty cool!

4/28/2008 12:23:51 PM

Quote :

" the police report stated that the rape victim was partially to blame"

Once again you fail to make even a suitable comparison. I notice you choose to take obtuse and ridiculous exaggerations and use them as a reply as if it being a reply makes it automatically applicable. Perhaps a different approach would better convey your points of view.

4/28/2008 12:28:45 PM

the fact that people would rather blame US foreign policy for 9/11 than THE ACTUAL HIJACKERS WHO FLEW THE PLANES makes me sick

4/28/2008 12:29:51 PM

Quote :

" From : TreeTwista10 To : drunknloaded Received : Monday April 28, 2008 at 12:27 PM Subject : do you not understand the rape analogy? here i'll explain it to you 9/11 - violent attackers killed innocent civilians rape - violent rapist rapes innocent woman you're with me so far, right? people who say US foreign policy caused 9/11 are saying US troops occupying "holy lands" were just reason enough for those violent attackers to kill thousands of innocent civilians the attackers arent blamed...the violent murderers who flew the planes arent blamed...its the US having troops on foreign land kind of like if for a rape, instead of blaming the rapist, the one who actually committed the rape, you might put partial blame on a girl for being out too late, or dressing too slutty but dont you think the rapist is always going to be to blame? so why arent the hijackers blamed for 9/11? people are always trying to blame the US for shit"

4/28/2008 12:31:12 PM

I wish twista had PMd that to me. It makes great sense.

4/28/2008 12:32:49 PM

Quote :

"the fact that people would rather blame US foreign policy for 9/11 than THE ACTUAL HIJACKERS WHO FLEW THE PLANES makes me sick"

When you get mugged, you generally go through processes to ensure you don't get mugged in the future, such as, not walking in dark alleys at night.

4/28/2008 12:33:35 PM

^^i told him since i couldnt think for myself i'd post it and see what others thought

[Edited on April 28, 2008 at 12:34 PM. Reason : .]

4/28/2008 12:33:49 PM

When someone breaks in your house, you usually do things to make sure it doesn't happen again... like building a moat and filling it with mutant alligators.

4/28/2008 12:34:26 PM

when you get mugged, its not the mugger's fault, its somebody else's fault, like whoever built 2 dumb buildings that close with a dark alley in between

4/28/2008 12:35:18 PM

I'll just add this in to show the intelligent nature of DNL

Quote :

"drunknloaded: yeah but the government should clone women like [Sharapova or any other Russian tennis star] and let men rape them anyways.."

No wonder he doesn't get the rape analogy. Thanks for PMing him that, twista.

[Edited on April 28, 2008 at 12:36 PM. Reason : .]

4/28/2008 12:36:18 PM

If you are going to play the rape analogy, at least have an acurate one.

It is more like a naked hot woman running around the yard when rapists are allowed to be out of their cells and not expect to get raped.

4/28/2008 12:39:20 PM

Quote :

"when you hear me ever defending falwell or robertson, you can feel free to confront me with those comparisons "

So Obama's support of Wright is bad, but Bush's/McCain's support of crazy preachers is not about them, it's about the preachers?

And after all these threads, the Oeurve/eyedrb/treetwista trio has still failed to explain how Wright is a racist, and worse, they continue to use his quotes out of context. I don't think even Fox News is doing that still.

4/28/2008 12:40:01 PM

^^^If the rape victim bombed the raper's villages for a few decades, I'd go ahead and say we could explore the possibility that the rape victim's actions MAY HAVE increased the likelihood of the rape victim being raped

[Edited on April 28, 2008 at 12:40 PM. Reason : ]

4/28/2008 12:40:15 PM

so all the people who worked jobs to provide for their families, and happened to work those jobs in the WTC...those people had been bombing other countries for decades? thats news to me...i thought they were just innocent civilians, i had no idea they were all military and had been carrying out operations over the past couple decades

4/28/2008 12:41:33 PM

Quote :

" the fact that people would rather blame US foreign policy Obama for 9/11 Wright's statements than THE ACTUAL HIJACKERS WHO FLEW THE PLANES PERSON WHO MADE those statements makes me sick"

[Edited on April 28, 2008 at 12:42 PM. Reason : ]

4/28/2008 12:41:56 PM

Quote :

"still failed to explain how Wright is a racist"

carlface

[Edited on April 28, 2008 at 12:43 PM. Reason : .]

4/28/2008 12:42:40 PM

[Edited on April 28, 2008 at 12:43 PM. Reason : editing whore]

4/28/2008 12:43:12 PM

terpball....all you can say is "this poster is stupid, he doesn't understand foreign policy!!"

I understand completely. You blame America first for things like 9/11. If some terrorist nutjob blows himself up on a bus full of civilians, he's a "freedom fighter" who is only doing it because evil America and Isreal!! WHAAAA!!!

"So, yeah, how the fuck was him saying that america's chickens have come home to roost RACIST anyway?"

Did I say that that specific comment was racist? No actually, I was simply pointing out that a quote like that isn't "taken out of context". I just wanted to add in my post that he is a racist pig because....well, he is.

[Edited on April 28, 2008 at 12:49 PM. Reason : typo]

4/28/2008 12:43:35 PM

Quote :

"the fact that people would rather blame US foreign policy for 9/11 than THE ACTUAL HIJACKERS WHO FLEW THE PLANES makes me sick"

Do you fail to recognize it as a catalyst? Usually rape victims aren't involved in doing something thats continual and and has long lasting detrimental effects on the person who usually rapes them.

If you come into a house and i'm raping your mother/sister/wife and you break my arm in the process of subduing me is it not my fault that my arms is broken? should i be able to blame you and request compensation from you? If we follow your logic as stated so far that would appear to be the case since you would have inflicted the damage on me, despite my raping as the catalyst for such action to take place.

4/28/2008 12:44:41 PM

Quote :

" racist pig because....well, he is. "

haha, nice. Case in point.

4/28/2008 12:45:01 PM

Running around and doing the exact same thing and expecting different results is not courage, it is lunacy.

4/28/2008 12:45:02 PM

Quote :

"And after all these threads, the Oeurve/eyedrb/treetwista trio has still failed to explain how Wright is a racist, and worse, they continue to use his quotes out of context. I don't think even Fox News is doing that still."

I am honored to be mentioned with you gentlemen.

I'm still not getting the whole out of context thing. I mean, unless the actual quote was

Quote :

"GOD PLEASE DON'T DAMN AMERICA"

and fox news turned it into

Quote :

"GOD PLEASE DON'T DAMN AMERICA"

then I don't really see how his quotes can be given ANY context that is constructive or actually factual (ie the ones about the evil white US government creating HIV to kill black people)

4/28/2008 12:45:32 PM

In the bible, when individuals or groups of individuals run around and act like they are god (the US) then god damns those individuals.

are you that dumb?

4/28/2008 12:47:32 PM

context:
context |'kän?tekst|
noun
the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood and assessed : the decision was taken within the context of planned cuts in spending.
• the parts of something written or spoken that immediately precede and follow a word or passage and clarify its meaning : word processing is affected by the context in which words appear.
PHRASES
in context: considered together with the surrounding words or circumstances : it is difficult now to view these masterpieces in context.
out of context: without the surrounding words or circumstances and so not fully understandable : comments that aides have long insisted were taken out of context.

4/28/2008 12:47:38 PM

that depends on what your definition of the word 'is' is

with the "out of context" game, you can deny anything!

worried about having a potentially damaging quote of yours printed in a newspaper, verbatim, word-for-word, exactly as you said it? wish you could take back the statement to minimize political harm, but you can't? just use the context excuse!

4/28/2008 12:48:24 PM

with the "game" game, you can be delusional about anything!

4/28/2008 12:50:12 PM

Quote :

"I murdered that person"

Did you say that?

Yes but it was out of context

ok, not guilty!

4/28/2008 12:50:53 PM

Quote :

"i thought they were just innocent civilians, "

No one said that those people in the buildings were responsible or even insinuated that they deserved to die. If you some how took that from what was said - and your comments allude to such- then you are clearly so entirely blinded by your current position that you're unwilling to actually make an honest attempt to relate to what others are saying. This would also explain your position on the reverend.

US being responsible and civilians deserving to die are two different things.


^once again you make irrational comparisons that are extreme exaggerations and therefore not at all applicable to the situation. Are you actually trying to make points that people can relate to and potentially agree with or do you just enjoy being an ass?

[Edited on April 28, 2008 at 12:53 PM. Reason : ^]

4/28/2008 12:51:57 PM

"I murderd that person in darts"

4/28/2008 12:52:24 PM

^^^So are you arguing that the quotes Oeuvre posted earlier were NOT out of context? Do you think you can admit that even ONE of them is out of context?

Or are you arguing that the concept of context doesn't actually exist?

Because either position is easily provable to be wrong, and considering you've stuck to them after all these threads, it makes you out to be delusional (or an idiot).

[Edited on April 28, 2008 at 12:53 PM. Reason : ]

4/28/2008 12:53:23 PM