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"I call all my great aunt's and uncles "aunt and uncle." Using the "great" creates too much confusion."

i do too.

doesn't everyone?

i mean, who the fuck says "Hello, Great Aunt Hilda and Great Uncle Ralph ... I really loved the Power Rangers Action Set you gave me for Jesus' birthday."



[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 5:13 PM. Reason : ]

5/27/2008 5:06:44 PM

wow. must be a southern thing. lol

so is obama southen now too???

hahaha. you should just call them by their first names you inbreeds. lol

5/27/2008 5:08:52 PM

His mother's side did own slaves at one time.

5/27/2008 5:09:18 PM

racist slave owning bastards. i'll never vote for them

5/27/2008 5:11:38 PM

Is that what all this is about?? that he referred to one of his "Great Uncles" as an "Uncle" ???

HOLY FUCK YOU REPUBLICAN RETARDS ARE INTELLECTUALLY BANKRUPT AND COMPLETELY INCOMPETENT.

And for another thing, it's a common, widely used convention to speak of any of the GI's who were the first to arrive at ________ Concentration Camp that they, personally, helped to "liberate" that concentration camp.

for you chickenhawk war-thumping jerkoffs to denigrate the service of any american GI in WWII is cowardly and craven. you'd fucking send your own mother down the river if it would help support your imaginary world of self-righteous corporate American hegemony.

bunch of ass lickers.








[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 5:17 PM. Reason : ]

5/27/2008 5:14:10 PM

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"for you chickenhawk war-thumping jerkoffs to denigrate the service of any american GI in WWII is cowardly and craven."

Has anyone denigrated the service of a GI in this thread?

5/27/2008 5:15:21 PM

implicitly, yes.

5/27/2008 5:16:15 PM

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"bunch of ass lickers."

wait, you can keep your ass licking on the left side of the isle. lol

5/27/2008 5:16:28 PM

damn this almost makes me want to vote for mccain and then i realize obamas policies are better

5/27/2008 5:17:05 PM

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"obamas policies"

lol. by all means, get your wish granted for the highest taxes ever. heck, he's got a world tax he plans on imposing on americans

900billion dollars in foreign aid all at your cost dnl! you'll feel so good inside.

5/27/2008 5:19:09 PM

No they haven't. I do love your holier than thou "How dare somebody question Barack God Obama's word!1!!!" attitude though. They're trying to merely see if his statement has merit or not. Maybe his uncle did fight for the soviets, who's to say.

And you can explicitly kiss my ass.

5/27/2008 5:19:20 PM

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"Has anyone denigrated the service of a GI in this thread?"

of a mystical Soviet Red Army member that Obama is apparently related to?

5/27/2008 5:21:16 PM

NEWS REPORT: HIS MADE UP UNCLE ALSO ENCOUNTERED HEAVY SNIPER FIRE

fucking muslim loving liberal cunts with no balls to defend yourself. go give all our oil up and tax the hell out of us without giving us answers...


why not make up family members? lol

[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 5:26 PM. Reason : .]

5/27/2008 5:25:36 PM

i got to be honest...i just hope obama wins cause i think it will cause a big hissy fit with the racists/racebaiters

5/27/2008 5:27:09 PM

Well, we did see that Mr. Hussein Obama had a supporter brandishing the colors of Cuba and the countenance of Che Guevara.

5/27/2008 5:27:47 PM

^^ that's rich coming from an anti-semite like yourself.

[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 5:28 PM. Reason : ^^]

5/27/2008 5:28:09 PM

His uncle sounds like the WWII version of Bill Brasky.

5/27/2008 5:29:06 PM

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"wow. must be a southern thing. lol"

uh no...its not. I call my great aunt's and uncle by either their first name or uncle _____ or aunt _____. no one says 'great' unless they are explaining to someone else exactly how they are related to you.

5/27/2008 5:30:46 PM

^^thats hilarious coming from a zionist socialist like yourself

5/27/2008 5:30:48 PM

Let's get out our prayer carpets and pray to obama. It's 1/2 past the hour. hurry up obama chillens. lol

5/27/2008 5:31:41 PM

lol my new neighbor yesterday was like "i just dont know about that obama guy" and i was like "lol what else are you waiting for???"

5/27/2008 5:32:44 PM

Hey, are any of you other guys planning to vote for Bob Barr coming up in this election? All this talk from McCain about global warming and big government solutions has me feeling really uneasy, and I refuse to vote for that other guy, whats his face.

5/27/2008 5:33:19 PM

obama: yes he liberated Auschwitz.

reporter: so you are a soviet decendent too?

obama: lolwut? let's talk about my tax plans. kkthxbye.

5/27/2008 5:35:38 PM

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"i don't see a conflict with those statements. "

Are you serious?

I guess you drink the Koolaid. After all preconditions and preparations ARE two different words.

Oh,and in the NYT
An examination of Mr. Obama’s numerous public statements on the subjects indicates that he has consistently condemned Hamas as a “terrorist organization,” has not sought the group’s support and does not advocate immediate, direct or unconditional negotiations with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian president.

His website:
"Obama is the only major candidate who supports tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions."

Maybe you can find the conflict with those two sarijoul.

[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 5:46 PM. Reason : .]

5/27/2008 5:44:05 PM

they are. and they mean different things.

for your edit:
the qualifications in the NYT statement are far different than the qualifications in the obama statement. why don't you just find two obama statements that contradict and get back to me.

the NYT is combining his stand on hamas and iran into one statement which seems to unnecessarily confuse the issue.

[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 5:49 PM. Reason : .]

5/27/2008 5:46:07 PM

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"Obama's great uncle, his grandmother's brother, served in the 89th Infantry Division that liberated one of the subcamps of Buchenwald, according to the Obama campaign."

5/27/2008 5:57:55 PM

B-BU-BU-BU-BUT .... NOOOOO! WAIT, WAIT!!!!

DONTCHA SEE??? HE CALLED HIM HIS "UNCLE".. HE GOT THE CAMP NAME WRONG...

*SPUTTER* *FROTH* *FOAM*

HES A LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE.

[/republican hissy fit]





[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 6:04 PM. Reason : ]

5/27/2008 5:59:18 PM

oh. dear. god. he said the wrong camp and referred to his great uncle as his uncle. WHAT A BASTARD!

5/27/2008 5:59:18 PM

idk about yall but forgetting shit is something that mccain would do....i dont think i can vote for mccain or obama now

5/27/2008 6:01:54 PM

[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 6:12 PM. Reason : retroactive removal per revised apology acceptance preceeding post apologetic reversal]

5/27/2008 6:02:43 PM

\/ apology accepted

[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 6:06 PM. Reason : .]

5/27/2008 6:03:27 PM

i'm sorry, DNL. i just realized you must have been being sarcastic.

please accept my apologies.

5/27/2008 6:06:04 PM

Stimwalt

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"Not a story, unless you have a video of his great uncle avoiding sniper fire."

Rat

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"NEWS REPORT: HIS MADE UP UNCLE ALSO ENCOUNTERED HEAVY SNIPER FIRE"

Hey Rat, feel free to completely steal my creative thoughts! No one will notice that you are unable to formulate original ideas or witty retorts, and instead copy others that you admire. Nope, not a one.

[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 6:44 PM. Reason : -]

5/27/2008 6:40:04 PM

I remember when Rat stole a paragraph from RUSH LIMBAUGH and posted it on here as if the words were his own. He always does this, kid doesn't have a mind of his own.

5/27/2008 6:45:58 PM

blaque presidential candidates: lol

5/27/2008 7:34:04 PM

for the record, in my family, we refer to all uncles as "uncle," whether he is a "great uncle" or whatever. I'm just saying.

5/27/2008 7:52:22 PM

not a huge error and a mix-up of words.

however you OB worshippers blast Hillary and McCain for any similar slip up. why do you not expect the same in return?

5/27/2008 8:17:36 PM

they're not "similar"

Hillary claimed a PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, that she was "under heavy sniper fire"... there wasn't a militant's steaming turd within 50 miles that day, much less any shots being fired.

THE ONLY THING Barack missed here, was mixing up WWII Concentration Camp names: Auschwitz vs. Buchenwald.

people were slaughtered en masse in both places. both places were liberated. Barack's uncle was part of the 89th Infantry that liberated the camp, nearly 20 YEARS before Barack himself was born.

Do you think his old uncle talked directly to little Barack about his personal demons related to seeing firsthand the detailed horrors of Nazi Germany? no, this was second-hand info from his mother or grandmother.

why do you people hate American GI's so much? Just because they weren't fighting for corporate control of oil profits, doesnt make their sacrifice less valid





[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 8:32 PM. Reason : ]

5/27/2008 8:27:26 PM

Joe, Im going to take your arguement one step further.

You are saying its basically OK for obama to be wrong bc it was second hand info and he wasnt there, but clinton was there correct?

Ok, but then get mad when people are pissed Bill lied about a BJ(1st hand info), which cost this country millions before he told the truth, and Bush getting bad second hand info about a country thousands of miles away.

I find irony in that.

I dont think people were slaughtered in the second camp, it seems it was a work camp and not an extermination camp. Although many people did die there.

I dont think this mistake was a big deal, but I do think he is full of shit. And I stand by my previous statement in this thread on why he said it and his intentions.

5/27/2008 8:35:55 PM

1) we should have never spent a penny to investigate bill's pecker
2) Bush ignored other clear evidence in favour of the shoddy 2nd-hand intel. and it is costing us BILLIONS of dollars.

5/27/2008 8:42:12 PM

3) sometimes JoeSchmoe Aaronburro.

5/27/2008 8:47:57 PM

sorry. I just think that talking about grandma talking about good ol' uncle bob is a little less important than cherry-picking evidence in order to go to war. I'm just saying.

5/27/2008 8:51:35 PM

burro.
1. I agree. He could have not lied under oath, or told people to mind thier own business. He didnt do either. And what started out as a whitewater investigation turned into a perjury investigation.

2. No doubt there were conflicting info out of iraq. However, Clinton, gore, etc have been telling us for years about how much a threat Iraq was before Bush took office.

9/11 just gave us a reason to act. And odds are that you were in favor of it when we first went in. Although im SURE you werent. I do think it was the right call at that time, but turned out to be a mistake.

5/27/2008 8:53:24 PM

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"sorry. I just think that talking about grandma talking about good ol' uncle bob is a little less important than cherry-picking evidence in order to go to war. I'm just saying"

If that is what you got out of my point, then you totally missed it. It wasnt a comment on the severity of the mistake, but the attitude of the mistake simply bc WHO made it and how you can apply reason to one and not the other.

5/27/2008 8:55:57 PM

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"eyedrb : And I stand by my previous statement in this thread on why he said it and his intentions."

"intentions" ? WTF are you talking about??? this was his UNCLE. His own GRANDFATHER also fought in WWII, with Patton's Army in Europe. He grew up around these people every day of his young life. They are as important to him as your family is to you.

So what the hell are you going on about, "intentions". My grandfather fought in WWII over Europe as waist gunner in a B-17. 35 fucking missions, got shot -- personally -- twice. I'm not a war hawk by any means, but I am impressed by and respect his service. I respect all the people who fought in that war. They sacrificed, as a whole, far more than we have done in every conflict since.

YOU, now what the fuck have YOU done? I mean, besides study eye charts and fit people for contact lenses? all the while beating the drum for more corporate war?

what are YOUR intentions, you jacked up little chicken hawk, you disingenuous fuck?






[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 8:59 PM. Reason : ]

5/27/2008 8:56:36 PM

Like I said:

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"I think its quite obvious he contorted a story to make his families accomplishments seem grand and help relate to his audience.. "

It could have been a mistake, but everyone has heard of Auschwitz and he knew that. Was surprised when someone fact checked. I think he selma speech is the basis of why I formed my opinion.

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"The only way Obama's uncle liberates Auschwitz is if Spike lee does a movie on it."

Come on, that was funny. Did no one get the context of it?

Then there was:

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"Its really not a big deal"

btw, whats with the fucking anger joe? chill the fuck out.

[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 9:04 PM. Reason : ..]

5/27/2008 9:02:06 PM

Quote :

"eyedrb: Like I said, I think its quite obvious he contorted a story to make his families accomplishments seem grand and help relate to his audience.. "

"contorted"

.... oh yeah, contorted because he confused the Auschwitz death camp for the Buchenwald death camp?

"seem grand"

... you mean, it seems that way, because it actually happened?



Well, like I said, youre a jacked up little chicken hawk and a disingenuous fuck.




[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 9:15 PM. Reason : ]

5/27/2008 9:13:30 PM

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"contorted because he confused the Auschwitz death camp for the Buchenwald death camp? "

Auschwitz death camp... check

Buchenwald work camp.. .check


How many americans have heard of Auschwitz? Alot. If you ask someone to name a camp.. that is the one they will probably name.

How many have heard of Buchenwald? Thats my point hoss.

I still dont get your disingenous insult, but you seem to have many levels of crazy so that might not be a bad thing. Please tell me you arent a teacher.

5/27/2008 9:18:27 PM

so are you suggesting he intentionally misspoke cause more people have heard of Auschwitz?

5/27/2008 9:45:55 PM

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"so are you suggesting he intentionally misspoke cause more people have heard of Auschwitz"

It wouldnt be the first time he "mispoke" history for political gain. Im saying its a possibility.

Obama:
What happened in Selma, Alabama and Birmingham also stirred the conscience of the nation. It worried folks in the White House who said, “You know, we're battling Communism. How are we going to win hearts and minds all across the world? If right here in our own country, John, we're not observing the ideals set fort in our Constitution, we might be accused of being hypocrites.” So the Kennedy's decided we're going to do an air lift. We're going to go to Africa and start bringing young Africans over to this country and give them scholarships to study so they can learn what a wonderful country America is.

This young man named Barack Obama got one of those tickets and came over to this country. He met this woman whose great great-great-great-grandfather had owned slaves; but she had a good idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided that we know that the world as it has been it might not be possible for us to get together and have a child. There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don't tell me I'm not coming home to Selma, Alabama.

History:
*Barack Obama, Sr. attended the East-West Center, set up in 1960 by the U. S. Congress and President Eisenhower.

*Selma happened in 1965, when Barack Obama was four, and after the death of John F. Kennedy.

*The 16th Street Baptist Church bombing happened in 1963, when Barack Obama was two.

*Barack Obama, Jr. was born in August 1961.

So basically Barack Obama was born in 1961 because his father got to go to school in 1960, due to a program approved of by "President Kennedy", in response to Selma, which happened in 1965.

5/27/2008 10:35:59 PM