benz240 All American 4476 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It's absurd that in 2008 we still only get a few hundred megabytes of storage space." |
you think that's bad? we have 12MB (that's right, TWELVE FUCKING MEGABYTES) of storage on our Exchange accounts here at ******.edu 8/27/2008 8:52:32 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Why the hell wouldn't they? It sure beats the shit out of webmail
" |
Our email isn't "webmail" it's IMAP and thus ANY mail app can be configured to work with it. WEbmail is just the lazy man's way of getting to their email.
Exchange is not friendly to any other platform other than Windows. The linux and mac users would be screwed.
Exchange has a webmail interface too, but I personally HATE web interfaces for Email.8/27/2008 8:54:30 PM |
engrish All American 2380 Posts user info edit post |
Exchange also has an IMAP interface so you're right back where you started. 8/27/2008 9:11:12 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
There is something weird about Exchange's IMAP interface though. 8/27/2008 9:11:55 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
then wtf is our mail system? yeah, it's webmail. or squirrelmail
as already stated, exchange also has imap access whether you like it or not and overall is about 100x better.. what do you like over outlook anyways?
[Edited on August 27, 2008 at 9:14 PM. Reason : asdf] 8/27/2008 9:14:01 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ I'm a Mac user so I use OS X's Mail.app
Quote : | "When connecting a non-Outlook client to an Exchange mailbox the username has to be specified as DOMAIN\USERNAME\MAILBOX in the case of a POP3 configuration, or DOMAIN/USERNAME/MAILBOX in the case of IMAP." |
http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Connecting_POP_And_IMAP_Clients_To_MS_Exchange_Server.html
That's pretty asinine. Not to mention it requires using a proprietary protocol that requires NCSU to buy a new set of Windows servers to run, and to retrain the admins how to configure MS's proprietary software. Exchange would be a lose all around.8/27/2008 9:25:55 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
He's a Mac guy, so he won't be using Outlook. Then again, Apple just went and added Exchange support into their iPhones, so it's hard to understand what his issue is.
The rumor I've heard is that whatever the next e-mail "solution" is, will eventually be phased out for Exchange.
Quote : | "retrain the admins how to configure MS's proprietary software." |
They're going to need to be retrained for the new system anyway. Things aren't staying as they are regardless.8/27/2008 9:28:47 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The linux and mac users would be screwed." |
heh.8/27/2008 9:33:07 PM |
smoothcrim Universal Magnetic! 18966 Posts user info edit post |
I would like to know what happened with the brickyard/oracle calendar plan. The university bought campus wide accounts with oracle calendar and then never used them. Also, what does it take, or rather who should one talk to, to market an item to NCSU to purchase for student consumption? 8/27/2008 9:37:11 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
NCSU Faculty and Staff are split across Oracle Calendar and Groupwise currently. Students, IIRC, can request an Oracle Calendar account. 8/27/2008 9:40:47 PM |
richthofen All American 15758 Posts user info edit post |
^Until they roll all the Oracle Calendar accounts into Groupwise (or so the current plan says...for what little that's worth )
Quote : | "then wtf is our mail system? yeah, it's webmail. or squirrelmail " |
Properly, it's Cyrus IMAP. Squirrelmail is the the web frontend.8/27/2008 11:46:08 PM |
plusdelta All American 1034 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ Oracle Calendar is still around, yeah. The University has a site license for some Oracle products, the calendar suite included. Part of why it was never fully rolled out is that it's a bitch to code stuff for, and we'd like to make sure that whatever is rolled out campus-wide can be done so with automated tools. Manually creating thousands of calendar accounts wouldn't be much fun. 8/28/2008 7:04:08 AM |
TallyHo All American 11744 Posts user info edit post |
^ aren't the groupwise accounts being added manually anyway? 8/28/2008 8:04:33 AM |
plusdelta All American 1034 Posts user info edit post |
^ yup, and that's why automation would be necessary. i can't imagine manually adding thousands upon thousands of e-mail/calendar accounts for Groupwise or any other system. 8/28/2008 8:50:37 AM |
lilbirdey Starting Lineup 55 Posts user info edit post |
100MB min for Novell - yes, that was recently increased from 50MB, and your free total was increased from 300 to 350MB. They give you 3 systems with minimum quota, plus an extra 150MB to move to the system(s) you use most.
Why so little compared to gmail etc? - They simply don't have 2+GB to allocate to each of 50,000 active accounts. Welcome to a State run institution with tight budgets that get cut by the legislature year after year.
Why won't they move to gmail? - Legal reasons. The State doesn't like the idea of private State business being conducted through a company that makes money off ads to us when using the service. On the other hand, other UNC-system schools have managed to clear a move to gmail and I hear rumors that some NCSU departments are pursuing that option in preference to being forced into GroupWise.
But you like gmail? - Then use it. Set your NCSU address to forward and don't look back. Works for me. 8/29/2008 9:38:34 AM |
Master_Yoda All American 3626 Posts user info edit post |
Whom would we contact about getting a job with OIT or comtech doing network stuff? I have my CCNA and 1yr+ exp with Cisco. 8/29/2008 11:35:44 AM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
http://jobs.ncsu.edu 8/29/2008 12:08:07 PM |
plusdelta All American 1034 Posts user info edit post |
If you're looking for full-time employment, then ^ is spot-on. If you're looking for part-time work, then I should point out that we're not currently hiring. We do keep applications for part-time work on file, for those that are interested in doing support for Labs, ClassTech and ResNet. Our part-time job web app is available at http://webapps.ncsu.edu/pt_job_app/.
If you have specific questions about part-time employment with OIT, please PM me. 8/29/2008 9:44:11 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Outlook FTW
tell them to quit "discussing" shit and actually do something.
I don't care for gmail or anything like that, just give me a gig or 2 for email space, and remove send/receive size limits on emails.
afs space needs to be several gigs - 10 or so. I fill my shit up so fast it's not funny. I had to request a personal locker just so I could have enough space, but I think they only gave me like a 100 mb, after requesting 1 tb
and what the happened to my ncsu webpage? did they get rid of that service?
[Edited on August 30, 2008 at 9:07 PM. Reason : .] 8/30/2008 8:55:00 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
Has NCSU considered space that we can pay for? If they're going to say it costs too much to give students x amount of space above what they currently have.. why not, at the very least, give an option to pay for what we want? I agree it's not the best option--but for some of us it'd be worth the price and in the end would cost NCSU nothing
edit: and quite honestly the fact that we're still counting in MB is a big sign that we're behind the times.. gmail is FREE and offers many many times the storage that NCSU has to offer--that is pretty sad
[Edited on August 30, 2008 at 9:16 PM. Reason : asdf] 8/30/2008 9:15:41 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
^you can do that for your afs space
nvm, I'm retarded, you can purchase extra space, and allocate it to k, email, and m
https://sysnews.ncsu.edu/tools-bin/usmdb-quota
[Edited on August 30, 2008 at 9:18 PM. Reason : .] 8/30/2008 9:16:42 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
how/where 8/30/2008 9:17:30 PM |
plusdelta All American 1034 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ believe me, i'd be perfectly happy to see something definitive about e-mail. we have a new vice chancellor for information technology (VCIT, also being called our CIO) this coming week, and it's expected that he's going to provide a lot of direction in areas where leadership has been lacking.
also, what do you mean about your ncsu webpage? www4 web pages still exist.
^^^ yep, paid-for space has been around for quite a while. login to http://sysnews.ncsu.edu and click on the Quota Manager link in the left column. you'll be able to make a request for space there, as well as information about cost, etc. paid-for space is renewed on a yearly basis.
[Edited on August 30, 2008 at 9:20 PM. Reason : y'all are too fast for me ] 8/30/2008 9:19:33 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
^well my www4 = http://www4.ncsu.edu/~wdprice3/
[Edited on August 30, 2008 at 9:22 PM. Reason : good looking post count over there] 8/30/2008 9:21:01 PM |
plusdelta All American 1034 Posts user info edit post |
^ most likely AFS permissions are screwed up in your directory. didn't go looking around in your space to see for sure, but that's the most likely explanation. 8/30/2008 9:24:10 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
what should they be?
they are:
owner: rx group: r others: r octals 0644
[Edited on August 30, 2008 at 9:25 PM. Reason : .] 8/30/2008 9:24:39 PM |
dFshadow All American 9507 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.ncsu.edu/it/essentials/web_pages/7grant_access.html 8/30/2008 9:25:59 PM |
plusdelta All American 1034 Posts user info edit post |
what ^ said. was about to post that very link. depending on your preference, you might want to either use the automated www setup tool (linked from that page), or poke at the permissions yourself using the step-by-step instructions. 8/30/2008 9:27:59 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
well I don't have putty on here (is it compatible with vista), so I'm trying to change them in winscp, but it's slooooooooooooooooooooooow.
oh shit. I completely missed that automated shit. sweet. thanks
works perfectly now. except I have the wrong index file
[Edited on August 30, 2008 at 9:31 PM. Reason : .]
[Edited on August 30, 2008 at 9:32 PM. Reason : .] 8/30/2008 9:29:45 PM |
plusdelta All American 1034 Posts user info edit post |
^ yup, putty should work just fine on Vista. not that i've tried it.
just checked on the download page for putty, it does.
[Edited on August 30, 2008 at 9:37 PM. Reason : .] 8/30/2008 9:34:03 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
yep, just got done playing around on it. time to remember all those commands now it's been so long 8/30/2008 9:42:42 PM |
darkone (\/) (;,,,;) (\/) 11610 Posts user info edit post |
The rates being charged for more user space are comical.
Quote : | " 100 MB of Disk Space for 12 Months Disk space must be purchased in multiples of 100 MB. Space is sold for per fiscal year (starting in July). Mid-year purchases will be pro-rated to the next month. $1.80 New Purchase Setup Charge All new purchases will be charged this amount in addition to the requested space charges. $20.00 Renewal Processing Charge Each renewal will be charged this amount in addition to the requested space charges. " |
8/31/2008 2:38:52 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But you like gmail? - Then use it. Set your NCSU address to forward and don't look back. Works for me." |
dont get why more people didnt do this8/31/2008 7:08:50 AM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
will ncsu "unblock my 425" (????) so i can send email from my mobile device? 9/1/2008 10:18:23 PM |
plusdelta All American 1034 Posts user info edit post |
^ to be honest, i'm not really sure what the hell you're talking about here. i saw the other thread, and the problem hasn't been explained well enough to give you the answer you need. also, we don't have anything blocked to prevent you from sending e-mail messages. 9/2/2008 2:12:58 AM |
jtmartin All American 4116 Posts user info edit post |
more of a resnet question, but is there any way to get HDTV signals on campus besides an indoor HDTV antenna?
and also why is NCSU cable so crappy? Some channels (usually hbo, sho) lose all audio periodically, then pick it back up in a day or so 9/3/2008 5:51:33 PM |
plusdelta All American 1034 Posts user info edit post |
^ actually those aren't resnet questions, since they're not network related. i'd actually ask ComTech about both of those things, since cable tv is in their realm. support@ncstate.net. i'd especially report the issues you're having with audio on those channels, since that shouldn't be happening for any good reason. 9/3/2008 6:48:33 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
is there an ncsu pdf server or something I can send some info to and have a pdf returned?
i'm tired of fighting fpdf and the way paystubs print out makes me think there might possibly be something like this
i just want a simple way to generate a pdf ` 9/3/2008 7:10:09 PM |
Master_Yoda All American 3626 Posts user info edit post |
PDF Factory Pro is what we tell everyone in E115 to use. Its on the Eos website for free 9/3/2008 7:32:04 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
not print locally, generated off a website 9/3/2008 8:42:49 PM |
plusdelta All American 1034 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ yes, we install the Adobe PDF writer on all Unity lab machines, as a print driver. You should be able to go to any lab computer, File > Print any document you want into a PDF file. 9/3/2008 8:48:15 PM |
AntecK7 All American 7755 Posts user info edit post |
can i get my email alias illuminati@ncsu.edu back?
Thanks 9/4/2008 3:39:48 PM |
jgnelsonjg New Recruit 29 Posts user info edit post |
I have a question thats already been posted. Why can't I use firefox? IE is seriously annoying. For the simple fact pressing Ctrl+T is way easier than having to open tweleve individual windows of IE.
I'd prefer it actually be installed on each machine, but if it must be remote can it at least work? 9/4/2008 4:02:25 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Uh... you can hit Ctrl + T in IE7 and it'll open a new tab. 9/4/2008 4:04:17 PM |
plusdelta All American 1034 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ probably not, sorry.
^^ what machines are you talking about? Firefox is installed on all Unity lab machines on campus, and likely in most other computer labs as well. If you're in a Unity lab, check for Firefox in the Novell Applications Launcher window. 9/4/2008 5:07:16 PM |
Grandmaster All American 10829 Posts user info edit post |
can you verify if my old/expired unityID@ncsu.edu rejects any mail that hits it?
[Edited on September 4, 2008 at 5:50 PM. Reason : .] 9/4/2008 5:49:53 PM |
jgnelsonjg New Recruit 29 Posts user info edit post |
(The lab in the basement of Nelson). I am almost 100% sure the version of IE on the computers there doesn't have tabs(not sure what version it is...I hardly ever use IE).
Firefox is in the Novell apps there, but everytime I try to use it it takes minutes for it to load and when it finally does its not responding. 9/4/2008 6:06:22 PM |
plusdelta All American 1034 Posts user info edit post |
^^ i can check to see, send me a PM.
^ gotcha. well, management maintains their own labs in Nelson, and they don't really make use of the software or configuration used elsewhere on campus. you'd probably have to either ask a lab attendant for help, or look on COM's website for their IT section. 9/4/2008 7:05:31 PM |
darkone (\/) (;,,,;) (\/) 11610 Posts user info edit post |
What do you have to do to get an email alias? 9/5/2008 11:06:22 AM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
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