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All other news surely will Palin comparison!

9/1/2008 2:45:19 PM

In addition to stories like this that I just mentioned:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/01/palin.daughter/index.html

Top story on the right list of stories (obviously Gustav gets the main box), and it comes before the story on the RNC

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"# Teen daughter of GOP VP pick is pregnant # Ticker: Palin's husband has DWI arrest # Hanna becomes hurricane in Atlantic # LIVE: CNN Radio at the GOP convention "

Man, the Palin's just can't catch a break from the media.

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There are also also stories like this:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26486063/

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"Palin flipped on Alaska’s ‘Bridge to Nowhere’ She's touted her opposition to pork projects, but initially welcomed funds"

That actually deserve attention and may help to overshadow the convention. But yeah MSNBC also has a story on the baby story as does fox & everyone else.

9/1/2008 2:52:05 PM

when i was watching msnbc they were just talking about gustav for hours on end. not a lot of mention of ay bay bay. but i mean...who doesn't love a scandal? but i think gustav is more overshadowing of the RNC than the baby story.

9/1/2008 2:54:46 PM

good thing about not watching tv and getting news from the internet is i can pick and choose what to read...i'm totally in the dark on this gustav thing

9/1/2008 2:56:56 PM

her daughter got pregnant.

that is so aweful. i think i'm gonna vote obama because of this

9/1/2008 2:57:21 PM

biden gets crickets and palin is a media sensation...i'm definitely voting for mccain now

9/1/2008 3:03:35 PM

OMG she's gonna marry the father and have the baby!1!!! How dare she be responsible.

9/1/2008 3:05:03 PM

^^ a media sensation or a media smackdown?

9/1/2008 3:08:21 PM

How does Bristol being 5 months pregnant now, explain away the pictures from late last year that made her look preggers?

9/1/2008 3:09:17 PM

15-25 is the prime age for a woman to have a healthy baby. anything less or more it starts getting dangerous

9/1/2008 3:10:04 PM

15? Are you a paedophile?

9/1/2008 3:12:57 PM

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"# Ticker: Palin's husband has DWI arrest "

our president has a dwi. it's obviously not a problem

9/1/2008 3:16:06 PM

Just to check... if the yongest child is currently four months old, and the daughter is five months pregnant, then I guess that rules out the chind being the daughter's since you cannot get pregnant a month before giving birth.

9/1/2008 3:24:53 PM

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/01/palin-told-mccain-about-baby-last-week/

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"Top McCain adviser Steve Schmidt said Monday that newly-minted Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin informed John McCain of her daughter's pregnancy in one of their "private conversations" last week. McCain aides insist the Arizona Republican already knew about the pregnancy prior to that conversation, having found out earlier during the lengthy vetting process."

So which is it, was she vetted last week, or during a lengthy vetting process?




http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/01/obama-palin%E2%80%99s-family-off-limits/

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"Obama: Palin’s family off-limits Posted: 03:00 PM ET From CNN Political Producer Alexander Marquardt MONROE, Michigan (CNN) – Barack Obama told reporters firmly that families are off-limits in this campaign, reacting to news that Sarah Palin’s 17-year-old daughter is five months pregnant. “Let me be as clear as possible,” said Obama, “I think people’s families are off-limits and people's children are especially off-limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin’s performance as governor, or her potential performance as a vice president.” Obama said reporters should “back off these kinds of stories” and noted that he was born to an 18 year-old mother. “How a family deals with issues and teenage children, that shouldn't be the topic of our politics and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that’s off-limits.” The Illinois senator became aggravated when asked about rumors on liberal blogs speculating that Palin’s fifth child - Trig - is actually her daughter Bristol’s. A Reuters report Monday quotes a senior McCain aide saying that Obama’s name is in some of posts, “in a way that certainly juxtaposes themselves against their 'campaign of change,’” “I am offended by that statement,” Obama shot back, not letting the reporter finish his question. “There is no evidence at all that any of this involved us.” “We don’t go after people’s families,” Obama said. “We don’t get them involved in the politics. It’s not appropriate and it’s not relevant. Our people were not involved in any way in this and they will not be. And if I ever thought that there was somebody in my campaign that was involved in something like that, they’d be fired.” "

9/1/2008 3:26:25 PM

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"15? Are you a paedophile?"

no even though i don't nobody who has would be considering pedophiles means someone who has a preference in prepubescent children a 15 year old woman would not apply. Thanks for playing though.

9/1/2008 3:34:50 PM

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"OMG she's gonna marry the father and have the baby!1!!! How dare she be responsible. "

nice post hoc rationalization

9/1/2008 3:39:43 PM

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/1/4231/18477/878/581881

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"Secessionist Sarah: VP pick Sarah Palin and the Alaska Independence Party"

Looks like dailykos isn't letting up on the attacks, they're just switching topics.

9/1/2008 3:41:37 PM

^^^^ Obama won class points with that one . . . assuming his campaign follows up.


So what if she gives a speech to people who want Alaska to be independent? If the state votes for it, they should get it.

9/1/2008 3:42:25 PM

Apparently this was common knowledge in Wasilla (sp?).


http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837862,00.html?xid=rss-topstories

9/1/2008 3:47:03 PM

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"Looks like dailykos isn't letting up on the attacks, they're just switching topics."

why wouldn't they (let up the attacks)?
their original story was obviously wrong and they retracted or updated it, but that doesn't mean that Palin is not a horrible choice for a VP.....

9/1/2008 3:49:41 PM

remind me again why this issue is important? Oh, that's right, IT'S NOT. /thread.

How about we talk about Obama's time on that commission where they can't seem to figure out where the money went. How about we talk about Obama's BEST FRIEND who BOMBED THE US CAPITOL and says he didn't go far enough? How about we talk about Obama's BEST FRIEND who preached racism from a church pulpit for 20 years? How about we actually talk about something that matters? If clinton's BJ didn't matter, then I seriously doubt the equivalent of Gore's daughter having sex should.

9/1/2008 4:04:21 PM

so i guess my thread got locked because it hit too close to the truth for theduke?

9/1/2008 4:05:34 PM

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"How about we talk about Obama's time on that commission where they can't seem to figure out where the money went. How about we talk about Obama's BEST FRIEND who BOMBED THE US CAPITOL and says he didn't go far enough? How about we talk about Obama's BEST FRIEND who preached racism from a church pulpit for 20 years? How about we actually talk about something that matters? If clinton's BJ didn't matter, then I seriously doubt the equivalent of Gore's daughter having sex should."

lol, someone's getting a WEE BIT TESTY AREN'T THEY? Hey, your old fart of a candidate picked Palin don't blame us.

9/1/2008 4:06:19 PM

I dunno, having a close adviser who advocated violent overthrow of the US government vs. a pregnant daughter. Yeah, same same.

9/1/2008 4:10:12 PM

I just think it's hilarious that we finally get a woman in the game, and the number one topic is her and her kid's vaginas.

Bravo!

Bravo.

9/1/2008 4:10:20 PM

nope. I'm asking why we are focusing on some bullshit when there are some REAL QUESTIONS to be asked, namely why a self-avowed and unrepentant terrorist is the best friend of a Presidential candidate.

^^ bingo. Ayers would probably get a fucking position in an Obama administration. Would you give that to Osama bin Laden? I sure as hell wouldn't

9/1/2008 4:10:51 PM

Could you at least give us a name for this so-called best friend?

I don't watch Fox News.

9/1/2008 4:12:14 PM

LOLLLL this video is hilarious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RN5xbWtNSU

9/1/2008 4:12:15 PM

Bill Ayers. The fact that you don't even know who this guy is speaks volumes about the painfully obvious media bias for Obama.

9/1/2008 4:14:03 PM

Ayers ain't exactly Osama bin Laden.

9/1/2008 4:15:54 PM

I'd love to see how you think that, given that the man advocates the violent overthrow of the US government. The only difference between Osama and Ayers is skin color and religion.

9/1/2008 4:17:50 PM

Ayers?

You're seriously calling that guy a terrorist?

9/1/2008 4:18:54 PM

Uh, I'm not aware that he still advocates the violent overthrow of the government. He's waffled as to whether he completely supports what Weatherman did. He's insisted they weren't really terrorists, that they were selective and so on.

Of course, you should note that I'm rather sympathetic to anyone advocating the overthrow of the government and opposing wars.

9/1/2008 4:20:46 PM

Whatever. Let's take that nonsense to another thread.

This thread is dedicated to that retard/bastard factory McCain picked for VP.

9/1/2008 4:21:03 PM

You amateur. You're stretching in a blind furious counter attack aaron. Do us a favor and lay off the faux news talking points ok? This kind of dirt is typical Golden Book of Rove smear tactics.

So Obama is guilty by association of having been connected to the Weathermen at age 8 huh? 40 years ago that's his fault? Ridiculous. You want scandal, take a look at John McCain and the Keating 5. He was investigated by the ethics committee it was so bad. He got nothing more than a slap on the wrist but that's even more dirt than Obama who legally did nothing wrong.

Give it a rest. Try again, don't pass go.

9/1/2008 4:22:28 PM

ummm no. Obama is guilty by association for hanging out with the guy that actually was fucking involved with it. You know, being best friends with the guy. The guy that, on 9/11 said "I wish we had done more." Seriously. But, naaah. A pregnant 17 year old is definitely more important. I see the light now. Or, McCain being set up as a fall guy by the ruling Democrats to make it look like it wasn't just Dems that were dirty. Yeah. That's bad.

[Edited on September 1, 2008 at 4:25 PM. Reason : ]

9/1/2008 4:25:18 PM

9/1/2008 4:30:19 PM

Actually it is pretty bad when you have a VP pick who touts her "moral authority" to try and rally the republican base but in the end just looks like a hypocrite grandmother.

9/1/2008 4:32:44 PM

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"Obama is guilty by association for hanging out with the guy that actually was fucking involved with it. You know, being best friends with the guy."

What the fuck, neither are true? You're just making up stuff because you're backed in the corner and you actually believe the smears...unbelievable. They both were involved with the University of Illinois and on an Anti-Poverty board...so what? All of a sudden now Obama is his best friend?

Give me a break. By the way, nice touch not refuting the Keating 5 scandal on McCain. Easy to trump little smears out there if you stay on message amirite?

9/1/2008 4:35:08 PM

smear vs smear



It's all fair game amirite

9/1/2008 4:36:05 PM

^^ she's a total gilf though

9/1/2008 4:36:27 PM

ummm. It is pretty much an accepted truth that McCain did nothing wrong. That's why there's no need to discuss it. He was trumped up by the Dems in an attempt to save some face.

Btw, I'm glad you bring up the commission Obama was on. You know, the one where they can't seem to figure out where all the money went? But no. Let's keep focusing on the vagina of a 17 year old.

^^^^ ummm. How does having a knocked up daughter question someone's own morality? grasping. at. straws, buddy.

[Edited on September 1, 2008 at 4:41 PM. Reason : ]

9/1/2008 4:39:50 PM

Bill Ayers autobiography and the New York Times =/= Fox News:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

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"''I don't regret setting bombs,'' Bill Ayers said. ''I feel we didn't do enough.'' Mr. Ayers, who spent the 1970's as a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park district of Chicago. . . . He writes that he participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, the Pentagon in 1972. But Mr. Ayers also seems to want to have it both ways, taking responsibility for daring acts in his youth, then deflecting it. ''Is this, then, the truth?,'' he writes. ''Not exactly. Although it feels entirely honest to me.'' But why would someone want to read a memoir parts of which are admittedly not true? Mr. Ayers was asked. ''Obviously, the point is it's a reflection on memory,'' he answered. ''It's true as I remember it.'' . . . ''Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon,'' he writes. But then comes a disclaimer: ''Even though I didn't actually bomb the Pentagon -- we bombed it, in the sense that Weathermen organized it and claimed it.'' He goes on to provide details about the manufacture of the bomb and how a woman he calls Anna placed the bomb in a restroom. No one was killed or injured, though damage was extensive."

I mean, you could give the guy the benefit of the doubt, after all, plenty of aging baby-boomers have a nostalgia for their revolutionary youth. Also, as we age we mature, and the boundless but largely errant energy of youth becomes a narrower focus of adulthood, I assume Mr. Ayers is no different. But I do feel the people a presidential surrounds himself with is a far better gauge of his future policies and is far more relevant than the embryo of the unwed daughter of the other candidate's vice-president.

But, like the Catholic church, it is easier to sweep your dirty past under the altar and point out the sins of others than make a critical examination of the only source we have of Obama's true political position beyond the largely empty rhetoric.

9/1/2008 4:44:32 PM

^^ Not really. You are obviously too obtuse to see it. She has been quoted several times championing the cause of abstinence only programs yet is irresponsible enough to allow her own daughter to get knocked up while unmarried. If the shoe was on the other foot your ilk would be jumping up and down screaming about how this was a poor choice in judgment (which to some it is).

9/1/2008 4:45:12 PM

burro's full of shit. Ignore him. Make him take it to another thread.

He's just trying to distract us.

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""We all make mistakes. Certainly, the ideal is not to get pregnant out of wedlock. But she made the right decision after her mistake," he said."

What "right decision" did she make? Not getting an abortion?

And why aren't we being more explicit about what exactly the "mistake" was? Was it having sex or getting pregnant?

And marrying the first guy who knocks you up is generally a bad idea. I mean, this girl is 17 and possibly throwing her life away on some dude who can't use a condom properly. Divorce: now for teenagers!

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"Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. We're proud of Bristol's decision to have her baby and even prouder to become grandparents," Sarah and Todd Palin said in the brief statement."

For once, I want to hear a mother say, "I fucked up big time. My daughter and her horny boyfriend are stupid, stupid, stupid. But fuck it. Shit happens."

[Edited on September 1, 2008 at 4:48 PM. Reason : I hate this shit.]

9/1/2008 4:47:18 PM

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"For once, I want to hear a mother say, "I fucked up big time. My daughter and her horny boyfriend are stupid, stupid, stupid. But fuck it. Shit happens." "

amen

9/1/2008 4:49:02 PM

Because that'll solve everything.

"Hey honey, not only have you made a mistake that will change your life forever, but I'm going to broadcast on national news how fucked up I think I am, and by extension, you are."




You people are descending in to a hooksaw-esque rabid hatred of this woman.

9/1/2008 4:51:17 PM

What'll solve everything?

9/1/2008 4:52:29 PM

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"OMG she's gonna marry the father and have the baby!1!!! How dare she be responsible. "

like she had any choice.

for all we know, she doesn't want to be married at 17, but given the circumstances (her mom is the VP candidate, and she's trying to win over the religious right/socially-conservative group), she pretty much has to

9/1/2008 4:54:44 PM

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