hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
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TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
Go Vikings... Go Panthers! ]9/17/2008 7:19:07 PM |
strudle66 All American 1573 Posts user info edit post |
beware of the frerotte
9/17/2008 7:33:26 PM |
Mattallica All American 6512 Posts user info edit post |
hahahh
frerotte, the first qb this year that makes you go "He's still in the league?" 9/17/2008 8:45:42 PM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
I forgot about that hot cheerleader scandal - nice.
Frerotte to wear "white gloves" hoping to inspire team.... http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2216124
[Edited on September 17, 2008 at 9:04 PM. Reason : link] 9/17/2008 9:02:58 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
man i miss the days the panthers were inspired by david carr 9/17/2008 9:04:55 PM |
xienze All American 7341 Posts user info edit post |
Like I said, the Panthers have got this one on lock. They've got Steve Smith back and the Viking's starting QB is the guy who wasn't good enough to beat Jackson's sorry ass out in the first place. 9/17/2008 10:41:57 PM |
Mattallica All American 6512 Posts user info edit post |
it's hard to not be optimistic 9/18/2008 1:12:40 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
AP missed practice today with a sore hammy (he hurt it in the Colts game)...he practiced yesterday but was too sore to even go today...that dude is already getting banged up...glad I have Chester Taylor on my bench in all my fantasy leagues
also heres part of a Q&A with Smitty from earlier today
Quote : | "Q: How is it being back with the team? A: It’s a relief. It’s great to get to be back with the guys, to be back on the field. Q: How did you stay in shape while you were suspended? A: I worked out at velocity, worked out every day there, kind of just staying on the same regimen as if I was playing. Getting up, being on the field at 9:30 or 10, going for about an hour and a half. So doing that stuff. Q: How was it being away from the team for two weeks? A: It was very difficult. That’s just part of the deal. That’s what happened. That’s the consequences, so you just take it, you apply it, you try to work from it and you still go about your day. It could have been worse. I could not have a job. So there are a lot of things I’ve pondered in my mind that you just kind of shake yourself out of, and not really take what people might say is a victim mentality and go out and do my deal. Q: Did you watch the first two games? A: The first game, I listened to because my son had a soccer game up in Asheville, so I drove back and I was listening to the game. (It was a) long drive, so it was a nice game to listen to. The second game, I watched it until halftime and then my son had another soccer game. I listened to it until about the third quarter and then I left. Q: How did you find out who won (the Panthers-Bears game last Sunday)? A: I was texting Ryan (Vermillion, the team trainer), talking to people who were able to watch the game and found out. I was getting updated. Q: Are you surprised the Panthers are 2-0 without you? A: It didn’t surprise me. I kept in contact with a number of guys. I was out and just the attitude of the guys was really positive and outstanding. They had a grudge and chip on their shoulder. I could tell the way they played. That fourth-down stand (against the Bears), I didn’t get to see it, but that just shows where this team is. Q: Were you surprised by your teammates’ outpourings of support for you? A: It was just good to hear. It didn’t surprise me because of the open dialogue that we’ve had, that we continuously have. We’ve all talked, all of us talked at different times. It’s only surprising to the people outside and guys are still going about their day. Q: When did you realize you would be accepted back by your teammates? A: I just took it as you give guys time and you don’t force the issue. Just come in and do my deal. Obviously, the way Ken (Lucas) handled it just kind of leads the way. Q: How have things evolved between you and Ken? A: I really let Ken talk about it. I don’t really feel like it’s my place. I’m really not going to try to spin it or put my take on it. I’m going to play. I’m going to communicate and talk. I’m not going to try to paint a picture. Q: But would you say you two are friends now? A: Yeah. I would say we’re friends. I would think we are friends. I would think the conversations we’ve had would indicate we are. I think we had a great conversation the first time we talked back in training camp for about two and a half hours. We walked into it (and) there were some frowns going on, some laughing. We talked about a lot of things. I think that was kind of the ice breaker. Hopefully, it continues, and I think it will. Q: Why do you think there has been some distance between the two of you in the past? A: I mean, flat out, I thought he didn’t like me and he thought I didn’t like him. Just plain and simple. Q: Once you communicated, did you find out something different about that? A: Yeah. I mean, I’ve always respected Ken. So I guess it was one of those, two prima donnas. Q: How has it felt to receive his forgiveness? A: It’s a relief. But it’s still something, even as I’m talking, it’s one of those things were I’m just trying to let go of the past. I really am. Q: How will you fit back in with the team? A: My initial thought, honestly, is these guys have busted their butt. They’ve played hard, and everybody is expecting and wondering where do I fit in. I don’t have to fit in. I’m part of this team. Those guys have made that (clear). I’ve heard that come out of their mouths. It’s continuously come out of their mouths. I don’t need to try to fit into something I’m already a part of. That’s the relief part, the stress-free part. I think that really identifies this team, that people really don’t understand. That’s one of the reasons why I didn’t want to talk yesterday. I just got here and was trying to feel my way through. Everybody wants me to explain and tell how I feel about coming back. I’m happy to be back, but I’ve also got a lot of catching up to do as far as in the playbook, as far as making sure I know what I’m doing, my opponent, and just getting back into the flow of things with Jake, Muhsin, Hack, D-wayne and all the guys who are in here. It’s a lot to bear on the first day and making sure that I make peace, or I need to let people know what’s going on. My first priority is in here and my job. Then everything else, I’ll allow that time to present itself at the appropriate time, like today. Q: Are you excited about getting to play again? A: I’m excited. (He chuckles) We’ll see on Sunday. Q: Do you think you’re working on a last chance with this team? I’m not looking at it like that. I just come here to play. Is it my last chance? I don’t really see myself as trying to put myself back in this predicament, no matter what people may speculate, or say, or bring up. Q: What did you learn from being away for two weeks and how has it changed you? A: I can’t really say exactly what everything I’ve felt and thought. I know I’m not a victim. I’m not giving it lip service. I’m not saying stuff just to get people off my back. I’m telling you how I feel. Sometimes, obviously, when you do something wrong, you don’t want to constantly keep talking about it and going over and over. Whether it happened two weeks ago or a month ago, you just kind of want to say, 'I’ve made a mistake. I had to pay a price.’ Were my actions enough for the people who have set the guidelines for it? … They felt it was. My teammates felt it was. At times, I’ve heard my teammates say it was maybe over the top. That never came out of my mouth. I’m kind of just taking it all in and working on one day. I’m just taking it one day at a time. People already have their perception of me anyway. I just kind of keep doing my deal, playing football, going to work and doing the stuff I need to do. As coach Fox said, it is what it is. If I allow my past to stay in the back of my head all the time, then I miss out on the future and I miss out on the present things that are happening. There are times I have done that. There are times I did a good job of just letting it go. That’s what I’m trying to do, just let it go. Q: Where you apprehensive about walking into that meeting room in Spartanburg when you had discuss the incident with your teammates? A: How about butterflies, let’s go with that word. Apprehensive, for me, feels like there’s an option to turn back, or you’re kind of teetering on the fence, Do I want to do it or do I not want to do it? Despite what people think, I ain’t got much quit in myself, so I can’t do that. I won’t do it. Q: Are you receiving counseling regarding dealing with anger? A: Not really. No. There are a ton of suggestions when incidents happen, no matter who it is or what it is who throw their nickel, quarter, dollar, dime, two cents – however you want to say it – into a situation when it’s not them. People think they have an answer on what happened and why it happened. There are a number of reasons why. Probably the reasons why, people would think I was lying. There’s no two sides and I’m not going to make an excuse. Q: Are you better able to handle the scrutiny and aftermath of this situation than you have been in the past? A: I think I can handle it. I don’t know if the people who have to write when I don’t give them what they want are able to handle it. I think so, you know. I had things to do yesterday. I had to watch film. I had to do rehab on my shoulder. I had kind of a busy, busy day. I’m still trying to work on my locker. I still don’t have my kids’ pictures up like I usually do. I’ve got a lot of work to do. Q: You’ve said you’re not worried about what people think of you, but are you concerned that you gave away a lot of the goodwill you built up over the past five years? A: I guess the question would really be would depend on how you write it, or how you say it. The things I do are because of where I’m from. I know how impactful resources of funding, of time and all those things are. I have never done my foundation work to vamp up an image. I do it because I know what it is to be poor. I remember a few Christmases I knew we couldn’t afford anything, but I got gifts. That’s why I do what I do, because I know what it is to be on the other side." | ]9/18/2008 7:06:39 PM |
hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
damn, Peter King on SI.com picked the Vikings to win 30-13. 9/18/2008 7:19:34 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
^what?
i dont know anything about the vikings yet though, but still im very confident we will win although i didnt like how we didnt use our recievers in the last game as long as we can get them involved we are one of the best in the NFL 9/18/2008 7:49:33 PM |
Wadhead1 Duke is puke 20897 Posts user info edit post |
Vikings to win with a AP with a sore hammy and Gus F. as their starting QB? 9/18/2008 8:00:42 PM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
http://fannation.com/peter_king_challenge/peter_king
its true. this guy really is a giant douche. 9/18/2008 8:19:34 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
i wonder if he's being serious or just trying to stir shit up...the other predictions look reasonable...and simply picking minnesota to win wouldnt be that unreasonable...but 30-13? 9/18/2008 8:27:58 PM |
LetsTAILGATE All American 2331 Posts user info edit post |
20-19 panthers. 9/18/2008 8:33:56 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
i dont know why people aren't jumping for joy at the loss predictions
do you not recall the outcomes of win predictions? 9/18/2008 8:48:59 PM |
EdFurlong All American 677 Posts user info edit post |
^ a very good point.
9/18/2008 9:02:11 PM |
BigJerm Starting Lineup 69 Posts user info edit post |
Peterson hurt his hammy. http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8578850?MSNHPHMA 9/18/2008 9:29:51 PM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
ham sandwiches for everyone 9/18/2008 9:38:42 PM |
hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
^^He'll probably play this Sunday though. 9/18/2008 10:13:54 PM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
30-13 Vikes 9/19/2008 12:20:55 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
Vikings safety
4 Chester Taylor TDs
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Peter King "only" picks the Chargers to beat the Jets 29-20
SD is 0-2 just like the Vikings...difference is, SD probably SHOULD be 2-0...yet the Vikes game is a blowout? bah
[Edited on September 19, 2008 at 12:25 AM. Reason : .] 9/19/2008 12:22:42 AM |
Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.athletesforyouth.org/steve_smith-going_deep-2008-9.html
Quote : | "Right now, I'm like the Jack in the box. You keep turning and turning and you know its coming but you don't know when. The day I pop out of the box? Sunday, 1 p.m." |
9/19/2008 1:14:27 PM |
BadPokerPlyr All American 2081 Posts user info edit post |
Purple Jesus will play and the Vikings will win by a touchdown. 24-17 9/20/2008 12:41:01 AM |
steviewonder All American 6194 Posts user info edit post |
Berman come out with his picks yet? He creates some crazy shit in that mind of his, I think I saw a prediction of 22-5 on there before. 9/20/2008 12:45:37 AM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
TEN LONGWELL FG's for the Vikings win 9/20/2008 7:23:45 AM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
we're gonna eat viking butt for breakfast 9/20/2008 10:38:28 AM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
the ESPN pundits like us to win..... but I think that is mostly because of AP's hammy and not Smitty.
We'll show em AP's hammy isnt the gamebreaking factor here.... 9/21/2008 10:55:07 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
Berman picked San Diego in week 1
which was the obvious pick...but he picked them to win by like 15 or something 9/21/2008 11:04:17 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Peterson is playing 9/21/2008 11:43:26 AM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
Please win panthers.
Thanks,
Packer nation 9/21/2008 11:43:55 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
Dear Packers:
np
love john fox 9/21/2008 11:48:41 AM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
Dear Panthers,
Youre a true asset to the league.
Regards,
Rodgers 9/21/2008 12:16:34 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
hahahaha the http://www.channelsurfing.net feed of the carolina game is in spanish. this is great 9/21/2008 1:02:49 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
passo incompleto
no permite nada
[Edited on September 21, 2008 at 1:06 PM. Reason : .] 9/21/2008 1:06:15 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Good start to the game 9/21/2008 1:08:36 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
all the commercials on this spanish channel are for variety shows with hot chicks in bathing suits 9/21/2008 1:25:44 PM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck these commentators. 9/21/2008 1:27:29 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
uhh, let's pass on 3rd down. the vikings are still good against the run 9/21/2008 1:27:49 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
SUPERMANNED THAT HOE 9/21/2008 1:36:09 PM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
THat was a great defensive play 9/21/2008 1:37:51 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
This broadcast is terrible.
The announcers are awful, the sound is bad, they are cutting to commercials randomly, even cutting to commercial during another commercial. 9/21/2008 1:40:26 PM |
JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
no different from any other week 9/21/2008 1:41:16 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
NO RESPECT 9/21/2008 1:42:57 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Please to get a little aggressive with the play calling. The Vikings are obviously out of sync on offense right now, we need to put them in a hole asap. 9/21/2008 1:43:03 PM |
Wolfey All American 2680 Posts user info edit post |
Man Fox has the worst commentators/analysts for tv sports
Ron Pitts should not have a job 9/21/2008 1:43:33 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
9/21/2008 1:48:20 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Big comeback game for Smith.
The analysts aren't bad, I really enjoy Strahan, but the commentators are terrible. 9/21/2008 1:51:04 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Good things happen when you throw into double coverage
wait......what? 9/21/2008 1:52:55 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
WTF IS GOING ON WITH THESE COMMERCIALS?! 9/21/2008 2:07:29 PM |