Ambrosia, I love you.

9/30/2008 12:58:21 AM

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"id like to be with one of you when you say NO to someone at best buy"

id like you to witness how fast i get a $200 gift card when the dude lays a hand on me, thus committing assault

or if the manager follows me outside, thus harrassing me and breaking his own company's policy and becoming an insurance liability

9/30/2008 12:58:37 AM

lol at the "just committing assault"

9/30/2008 12:59:31 AM

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"id like you to witness how fast i get a $200 gift card when the dude lays a hand on me"

they cant lay a hand on you and they know that. if you hate the place that fucking much why would you want a gift certificate?

9/30/2008 1:00:15 AM

^^^ EXACTLY.

[Edited on September 30, 2008 at 1:01 AM. Reason : ^ SO WHY DO YOU WANT TO SEE ONE OF US SAY "NO?" ]

9/30/2008 1:00:27 AM

lol thats the best part

i dont have to follow their policy

noone does

its UNENFORCEABLE

i can still shop there and then just breeze by the guy and IF there happens to be a problem, which there has never been to this day i swear

then i get free moneys

9/30/2008 1:02:04 AM

Of course, the best way to tell them how much you hate that policy is to not shop there in the first place

9/30/2008 1:02:49 AM

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"or if the manager follows me outside, thus harassing me and breaking his own company's policy and becoming an insurance liability "

i can honestly say i don't know any laws on this thus i stick to cars. but why the fuck would you want to test yourself like that.

yes old balls here s my receipt for the 4-5 things i bought. k thanks good day. thanks


go on bout your day.............

instead of two fuckers bickering back and forth to each other getting now where but each other mad.


once again
THANK YOURE Fellow AMERICANS for making it a hastle on everyone

9/30/2008 1:04:10 AM

^^BUT THEN YOU CAN'T TELL THEM "NO GOD DAMMIT."

THAT = NO FUN.



^ THE STORE IS THE ONE "MAKING THE HASSLE," RETARD. YOU'VE BOUGHT INTO THE "IT'S UNAMERICAN TO NOT GIVE UP YOUR RIGHTS" BULLSHIT.

[Edited on September 30, 2008 at 1:05 AM. Reason : ]

9/30/2008 1:04:14 AM

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"^ SO WHY DO YOU WANT TO SEE ONE OF US SAY "NO?" "

cause you people just talk thats it. FUCK IT ILL SAY NO

go in there and show your receipt. it would be a cool experiment

9/30/2008 1:05:39 AM

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"ow much does receipt checking actually reduce shrink? I'd guess not as much as they make it sound"

i believe in one of my business classes they presented a study about the elderly greeter. by placing a person at the door that says hello Walmart actually reduced theft. im sure it works the same way with the receipt checker. they cant actually do anything (just like the greeter ACTUALLY doesnt do anything), but the theft reduction more than pays for their salary.

9/30/2008 1:05:47 AM

or to spread word that you dont have to lay down and take it up the ass from them just because you have decided to give them your business

if they saw that their measures aren't working like they had intended they might GASP start going after the real culprits and not joe schmoe

9/30/2008 1:06:05 AM

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"YOU'VE BOUGHT INTO THE "IT'S UNAMERICAN TO NOT GIVE UP YOUR RIGHTS" BULLSHIT. "

no sir your way off

9/30/2008 1:07:33 AM

if you dont like it dont fucking shop there.

harris teeter is open 24 fuckin hours.

all everyone does is bitch at shit cause they are to lazy to take 5 seconds out of there life to do shit

9/30/2008 1:10:29 AM

buddy, i go into home depot sometimes 2-3 times a day, best buy maybe once a week, wal mart maybe once a week

if you think im bulshitting, then just try it once yourself

it was actually very liberating the first time i got to say "no thanks, but you have a nice day" instead of having to go through the 30 receipts in my wallet, all from home depots and walmarts, to prove i didnt steal anything

im not saying be a dick to the greeter/doorman and tell him to go fuck himself on the way out, its not his fault

9/30/2008 1:11:33 AM

people bitch about the stupidest shit now a days

9/30/2008 1:11:44 AM

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"by placing a person at the door that says hello Walmart actually reduced theft"

i couldnt find the words but yeah thats pretty much what i wanted to say

9/30/2008 1:11:46 AM

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"no sir your way off"

You're such a hardcore citizen that you can't even write in the language of your country. GO BACK TO FUCKING MEXICO YOU IMMIGRANT.

9/30/2008 1:12:39 AM

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"buddy, i go into home depot sometimes 2-3 times a day, best buy maybe once a week, wal mart maybe once a week if you think im bulshitting, then just try it once yourself it was actually very liberating the first time i got to say "no thanks, but you have a nice day" instead of having to go through the 30 receipts in my wallet, all from home depots and walmarts, to prove i didnt steal anything im not saying be a dick to the greeter/doorman and tell him to go fuck himself on the way out, its not his fault"

i lways have me recipet in my bag. when i take the shit out when i get home is when i put it in my wallet if need be.

9/30/2008 1:13:58 AM

my rights > store's theft problems

they are totally unrelated, unless they have some evidence otherwise

9/30/2008 1:14:41 AM

^^^get the fuck back in the garage fag. your are taking this way to fucking personal

[Edited on September 30, 2008 at 1:15 AM. Reason : get on my level hoe]

9/30/2008 1:14:43 AM

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"i believe in one of my business classes they presented a study about the elderly greeter. by placing a person at the door that says hello Walmart actually reduced theft. im sure it works the same way with the receipt checker. they cant actually do anything (just like the greeter ACTUALLY doesnt do anything), but the theft reduction more than pays for their salary."

The personal interaction and potential for identification is a deterrent for sure, and I would guess does pay their wages. As in, talking only monetary cost, they are totally justified.

But the companies who engage in these practices like to make it sound like receipt checkers stop all theft, as a means of justifying them to the customers who object and don't like the policy.

When you consider that, plus the fact that there are better alternatives, receipt checkers are a bad idea. In less lean times, customer goodwill means an awful lot. Shit, I still elect to shop at the local shitty (seriously, I won't buy produce there at all if I can help it, or unless I'll be using it the moment I get home) kroger, not just because it's 24hrs and close, but because literally every time I check out, they say "Thank you for shopping at Kroger", they never give me any grief about using coupons, returning stuff, their staff are either polite, or gone very soon, and if something is mislabelled, or has an old label, they honor the price I tell them, right away. They have the basics, as well as stuff I buy often, and their prices are pretty good on most items. Hell, yoplait whips are cheaper at kroger than walmart.

Given how easy it is to provide awesome customer service, not only is there no excuse not to, it's utterly unconscionable to seek to provide a neutral-to-negative experience, which is the receipt checker's job. Sure, you can be cheery and upbeat while doing it, but the fact remains that as a receipt checker, your job is to stand at the exit, and try to get every single person to stop, as they're leaving the store, and show you a piece of paper they don't need to show you. It is your job to do something to the masses, for the actions of a few. It is your job to be an obstacle.

[Edited on September 30, 2008 at 1:16 AM. Reason : ldkjf]

9/30/2008 1:14:58 AM

Normally I wouldn't mind the receipt checking so much, but they never make an effort to check when I'm prepared and have my receipt in hand

But of course, the times when I forget and it's extraordinarily inconvenient for me, they always want to check it

9/30/2008 1:16:07 AM

if you dont like it dont fucking shop there.

harris teeter is open 24 fuckin hours.

all everyone does is bitch at shit cause they are to lazy to take 5 seconds out of there life to do shit

9/30/2008 1:16:28 AM

what do you propose as an alternative. a grocery store and a walmart are arguably different models.

9/30/2008 1:17:25 AM

this is why target has a top flight security guard there

9/30/2008 1:18:07 AM

you sure did stick it to the man. way to go, girl!

9/30/2008 1:19:03 AM

harris teeter is open 24 hours
she hates wal mart
she needed cat litter.
they both sell pretty much the same brands.

i dont see what her excuse was to go to a place she hated in the first place

9/30/2008 1:19:53 AM

here is an alternative

also 9 times out of 10 i have to hunt down an employee bc there isnt one in sight and when i do they are in a rush to do something else. having more people on the floor AND having them interact with every customer they see can do the same for loss prevention.

9/30/2008 1:20:43 AM

so in the gargantuan walmart you want them to hire multiple ppl to man the floor instead of one guy at the door? that doesnt sound very cost effective. i doubt they need that many people most times during the day as well.

9/30/2008 1:21:59 AM

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"what do you propose as an alternative. a grocery store and a walmart are arguably different models."

I know...I was just using that to illustrate
- how customer service does have value
- that it's not hard to provide excellent customer service

I wasn't meaning to imply that kroger and walmart are comparable (although, with the walmart having their grocery center, and kroger being <1.5miles away, they are competing, around here at least).

As far as an alternative to receipt checkers?More proactive in-store monitoring of customers. The old ways of having staff out of uniform, walking the store, as well as uniformed staff actively interacting with customers who are shopping, worked well. Companies decided to cut this because it was too many people to be paid...and apparently, they think the ill will generated by a receipt-checking policy is offset by the savings of having fewer people deterring theft.

Buddy, lemme tell ya, if I'm gonna steal, I'm not putting stolen items in a bag, and I sure as hell will not be stopped by a granny at the door. Maybe I have more balls than most...maybe not.

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"she hates wal mart she needed cat litter. they both sell pretty much the same brands. i dont see what her excuse was to go to a place she hated in the first place"

Cost. I'm fucking broke right now. I have done the price comparison on kitty litter and food (and most items I buy regularly) between HT, target, and Kroger - the three stores I shop at most. If target had been open, I'd have gone there. They close at ten; I got off work at ten.

[Edited on September 30, 2008 at 1:23 AM. Reason : ldjkf]

Also, wal-mart had WAAAAAAY more brands of kitty litter than HT or kroger, but I didn't know this ahead of time.

[Edited on September 30, 2008 at 1:24 AM. Reason : fdlj]

9/30/2008 1:22:22 AM

well at least employs at other stores can speak english

9/30/2008 1:23:13 AM

my thought is that they've done the math and the multibillion dollar company thinks that the greeter works better in the long run either because...

1) hiring and maintaining a worthwhile staff is costly
2) the greeter prevents similar or more theft than people meandering about do
3) some combination of the two

9/30/2008 1:24:46 AM

I'm thinking it's #4: they're so massive they can easily afford to drive away customers...and have a bunch of other factors working to keep them as the retailer of choice for many americans.

9/30/2008 1:26:21 AM

yes, but independent of the other 3 choices, that wouldnt make much sense either. they'd likely just drop the greeter altogether. losing stuff through theft and stuff through driving business away is somewhat comparable.

again, i bet they've done the math.

9/30/2008 1:27:49 AM

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"or to spread word that you dont have to lay down and take it up the ass from them just because you have decided to give them your business "

I am completely amazed at how serious this is for some people. It's a receipt. They only check if you have something that is not bagged. For example, a TV, piece of furniture, and yes.. a bag of kitty litter. Everyone that has been alive for more than 10 years in this country knows this. Been the same for a long time. So you know what I do if I make one of these purchases? I keep the receipt in my hand. No hassle. Four seconds and I'm on my way to the car. How high-strung do you have to be when showing someone a receipt gets you this worked up? Get over yourselves. Really. Life is too fucking short to waste time bickering over something completely harmless. So rather than spend 3-6 seconds showing a receipt, you spend a minute or more arguing with someone who's just doing their job. I'm sure Wal-Mart's revenues and stock price will drop thanks to your "statement." You won.

I used to work in a Wal-Mart in high school and I saw this method deter theft. People would be trying to walk out with stuff and when they get asked for a receipt, they'd do the whole "pat down the pockets and act like you just lost it" thing and then walk away. Amazingly, they'd leave shortly after with nothing in their hands. Does it work for everything? No. But it's can be a deterrant... and that's their goal in the first place.

9/30/2008 1:31:24 AM

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9/30/2008 1:34:18 AM

The correct response is "I don't know, CAN YOU?"

9/30/2008 1:35:14 AM

Dude. I never said it was serious, that I thought I was making a difference, sticking it to the man, or winning. I elected to not show my receipt because I didn't want to. (Which does beg the question: why didn't I? Because I don't consider it a reasonable request. Many people differ, but it's my opinion, and my prerogative. You have clearly decided you don't mind showing your receipt. That's fine, and you're welcome to make that decision. I have made the opposite choice, and as far as I'm concerned, that's that. I'm not trying to convince you to stop showing your receipt)

And FYI, I didn't know Wal-mart checked receipts until earlier this year

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"They only check if you have something that is not bagged."

There are many, many, many anecdotes that suggest otherwise.

^^Aha. I forgot about that thread.

[Edited on September 30, 2008 at 1:36 AM. Reason : ljfdf]

Unrelated, but somewhat amusing to peruse:
a demographics report that was leaked to consumerist last year

[Edited on September 30, 2008 at 1:40 AM. Reason : dflkj]

9/30/2008 1:35:39 AM

9/30/2008 1:40:02 AM

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"^^^get the fuck back in the garage fag. your are taking this way to fucking personal"

HUH? DUDE THIS WAS NEVER ABOUT ME.

HOW IN THE HELL COULD I HAVE TAKEN IT PERSONALLY?!

9/30/2008 1:40:05 AM

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"o i live about a block from H.T. well its half time for the game so i decide to make a run on my bmx bike to the store to get a pizza and some beer. I throw on my book bag and ride and when i get there the manager is at the door returning a cart. we excange salutations. so i get my 2 pizzas and a 12er of bud select. Pay for it and and run back to my bike cause i didnt want it to get gone and half time is only 20 mins. so i get out there and try and cram this stucf in my bag. i fell something making noise behind me... hm start cramming more, then i hear (throwt clearing) i turn around and see this old lady just looking at me in the street and slowly walking up. didnt than anything of it cause well........shes fucking old. so i cram again. i finally get the shit in my bag. and take off. next thing i know im bout out of site of the front door and i hear HEY YOU STOP....... not wanting to be in any kind of trouble or looking to start anything i just keep on and mind my bus. im ridding down walnut and i see a cop fly by me in the opposite lane. i was like sweet someone got busted. well the dude jams on break and is coming back my way. still thinking haha somebody is fucked. im getting ready to cross the street for the first entrance to the mall. cop lets me go and eye fucks me really hard. hm must know me or something. so i wave. well im turning into my street and i see this white car approach me all stealth like with the parking lights on. i knew it was a charger so i turned back around. and continued to ride. car cuts me off i fall in grass and lights come on from his car and another behind........................ WTF asshat i said trying to collect myself...... whats in the bag with a fucking gun in my face, some fucking pizza and some beer wtf was that for. you got a receipt for that. ugh yeah i just bought it. well i forgot where i put it and looked all around my bag. so the guy puts me in the car. bag and bike on the side of the road..... cuffs and all takes me back to HT and shows me to the old bitch that thought i stole something YEAH THATS HIM ALRIGHT manager come out and says son did you steal from me. dude um no i take my shoe off and find my rept. cause that's where i put my change and shit cause i didn t have any pockets. i told her. hey blue hair mind your own bus, i was in a hurry let me get you name and addy so when i get back to my hood and my bike isn't there you can buy me a new one. keep in mind this is an $1100 bmx bike laying around in the dark. cop takes me back to my bike and sincerely apologieses all the way back to my bike that is luckily still there. i told him i understood but its really only $14 worth of groceries well i got to my bike had my food and beer and got home in time to watch half of 3rd quarter and rest of game CLIFFS don't be in a hurry i cant spell old people need to mind their own business"

9/30/2008 1:55:03 AM

9/30/2008 1:56:22 AM

^^ LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY DIDN'T SHOW THEM THE RECEIPT YO.

PWNT.

9/30/2008 1:59:04 AM

It used to annoy the shit out of me that Wal-mart would do that, especially since they only seemed to ask when my hands were obviously full.

If they were smart they would slap "thank you" stickers on items like kitty litter so you can easily see it's been paid for. I know supermarkets do this so I don't understand why Wal-mart can't.

9/30/2008 6:22:04 AM

A+ thread; would read again.

And I still love the halftime "theft" story above...

9/30/2008 7:08:49 AM

^ message_topic.aspx?topic=539319

for anyone who hasn't read the thread

[Edited on September 30, 2008 at 7:14 AM. Reason : fdsfsa]

9/30/2008 7:13:15 AM

THAT'S THE BEST PART ABOUT THIS THREAD, THAT'S THE RETARD THAT WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT PEOPLE NOT WANTING TO SHOW A "BLUE HAIR" THEIR RECEIPT.

I GUESS HE'S JUST PISSED OFF THAT HE DIDN'T SHOW SOME RANDOM "BLUE HAIR" HIS RECEIPT AND THEN HE GOT ARRESTED FOR IT. I'D HAVE TAKEN THAT A LOT FURTHER THAN HE DID. WITH NO PROOF OR EVEN ANY SUSPICION OF THEFT, YOU'D BETTER FUCKING BELIEVE THERE WOULD BE A PROBLEM IF I'D BEEN ARRESTED FOR SUCH A STUPID THING.

WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S STILL NOT A GOD DAMNED REASON TO SHOW THE "BLUE HAIR" YOUR RECEIPT.

9/30/2008 7:16:59 AM

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"It used to annoy the shit out of me that Wal-mart would do that, especially since they only seemed to ask when my hands were obviously full. If they were smart they would slap "thank you" stickers on items like kitty litter so you can easily see it's been paid for. I know supermarkets do this so I don't understand why Wal-mart can't."

you would have the same people saying "can i see the sticker on your kitty litter"

"no thanks"

9/30/2008 7:46:41 AM

jesus, this thread is a retard circle jerk

9/30/2008 8:13:20 AM