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^yes it does

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10/16/2008 3:47:06 PM

yeh I have to agree, losing usually means a losing starting position.

10/16/2008 3:52:46 PM

not if you're playing well. it takes 24 starters to win a game. if one of them is the greatest of all time, and the rest are terrible, you simply won't win a game.

you could have a QB that scores every time he touches the ball but never wins a game because the rest of his team (special teams and defense) is terrible. would he be the greatest of all time? probably.

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10/16/2008 3:53:57 PM

Winning doesn't make you the best.

Winning plus the highest rookie completion % and passer rating does.

ROFLsberger has to be the best.

10/16/2008 3:59:07 PM

ROFL also had Bettis/Parker to hand it off to and wasn't asked to throw that much.

10/17/2008 1:15:39 AM

^^He's also one of the dumbest fuckers in the NFL riding around on his motorcycle with no helmet on. Like Vince Young dumb.

Lucky as shit

10/17/2008 1:20:22 AM

The passer rating and completion % do, but the winning is irrelevant.

10/17/2008 1:32:16 AM

god damn that was a sweet play to Roddy White

10/26/2008 3:58:08 PM

Fucking shit why is Adam Jennings still on the team?

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10/26/2008 4:11:02 PM

thats a rough rough rough way to end a game... but I will cover the spread haha

10/26/2008 4:12:40 PM

They got so screwed at the end of today's game.

10/26/2008 6:16:24 PM

Nobody will show the fucking highlight of this shit. I still haven't seen it for myself.

10/26/2008 7:42:34 PM

ESPN just showed it. It didnt "make" the Falcons lose, but it was still a shitty call

10/26/2008 7:50:59 PM

i dont know if this has been covered in the thread

but is this a complete shock to any other nc state fans?

i didnt get to watch him much, pretty much only against us, and it seemed like he threw nothing but wobblers and tried to see how many times he could hit our db's in the chest (of course they caught none b/c we suck, but...)

11/9/2008 10:09:57 PM

As a Falcons fan, as I was watching him a little closer than your average State fan during his senior year, and watched a good many highlights after the season.

I could tell he had the smarts and leadership. Accuracy and arm strength were difficult to tell. It seemed like Boston College's pocket would always collapse really quick, and he'd end up throwing off his back foot, etc. I think the play of Atlanta's offensive line is a big factor here - they were expected to be a liability, and are instead a strength.

That said, I had NO clue Ryan could throw the deep ball like he has this season.

11/9/2008 10:28:40 PM

^^ no, I always thought he was really good and got shit for it on here and was right once again.

11/9/2008 10:54:25 PM

^ don't take it personally.

11/9/2008 11:09:59 PM

haha exactly

a simple question about if others remember things the way i do and somebody starts bragging

11/9/2008 11:10:54 PM

just saying that my well thought out observations are usually met with "you hate NC State" or just "fuck you" but then they often turn out being right. This is an example, as is Butch Davis being able to turn around UNC quick

11/9/2008 11:19:53 PM

It's not about being right, it's about unbridled, blind hatred for all things UNC.

but, clearly you want a cupcake. or, maybe a dozen.


but, i never had that much hate for BC, and yeah, I'm not that surprised that Matt Ryan is a good NFL QB. I'm only surprised that it happened this quickly.

11/10/2008 6:54:43 AM

someone that really knows sports never lets emotion block out logic when its really obvious.

I hate Florida

Florida sucks. Tennessee is better than Florida this year.


See how dumb that makes me look?


class over

11/10/2008 12:46:56 PM

honestly, i don't think anyone expected this kind of rookie year from matt ryan. even those that realized he was a legit top-10 prospect going into the draft were saying it was reach for him to be drafted as high as he was, it's gonna take time for him to adjust to the nfl, etc.

and i agree, he's a much better deep-ball passer than most expected. he's been throwing strikes!

11/10/2008 1:21:58 PM

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"Dimitroff's smart moves helped Falcons emerge from doldrums By John Clayton ESPN.com The New York Jets' Mike Tannenbaum was my midseason favorite for executive of the year, but Thomas Dimitroff of the Atlanta Falcons will be my end-of-season selection. It's not about how you start, it's about how you finish. Even though Tannenbaum acquired Pro Bowlers Brett Favre, Alan Faneca and Kris Jenkins, as well as Pro Bowl third alternates Tony Richardson and Calvin Pace, Dimitroff took quarterback Matt Ryan. End of story. Finding that once-in-a-decade quarterback is the most important move any general manager can make. Any questions? Have a question for John Clayton? Connect with him here. His mailbag appears every Wednesday. With Ryan, there is always hope. He makes the Falcons relevant for the foreseeable future. You have to go back to Peyton Manning in 1998 to find an acquisition of equal importance. Thanks to Manning, the Colts went from worst to first in the AFC East, jumping from 3-13 in 1998 to 13-3 in '99. Thanks to Manning and Colts president Bill Polian's ability to surround him with talent, the Colts have been a contender for a decade. Ryan has the same type of potential. He has a major league arm. He's smart enough to run a complex offense. He's able to get to his third and fourth reads. He can run no-huddle on the road. He has taken the Falcons to the playoffs in his first season. Ryan is much more than the rookie of the year. He's the next great quarterback in the league. By signing halfback Michael Turner, Dimitroff took a lot of pressure off his rookie quarterback. A power back who can handle 25 carries a game, Turner helped the Falcons' play-action passing game become an effective weapon. The hiring of head coach Mike Smith also was a stroke of genius. Smith's name isn't flashy, but he's simply a good coach. The Jaguars suffered without him. Smith came in with a staff of quality assistants and a no-nonsense approach to the game. He taught the Falcons how to win. It's hard to pass on Tannenbaum because he made bold moves, and almost every one of them worked. But the Jets have faded down the stretch. They've lost three of their past four games. At 9-6, they will be out of the playoffs if they lose to the Dolphins in Week 17. Even if they win on Sunday, they could miss the postseason if the Patriots and Ravens win. In picking Dimitroff, I'm passing on a big name -- Bill Parcells of the Dolphins. Parcells has done an incredible job in his first season running the Dolphins, who have gone from 1-15 to possibly finishing first in the competitive AFC East. Parcells improved depth and wasted no time grabbing QB Chad Pennington after the Jets cut him. The only flaw in Parcells' plan was passing on Ryan. Jake Long should be a great left tackle for the next decade, but a franchise quarterback has more long-term clout. Every season, a team or two goes from worst to first in a division race. Good moves, easy schedules, better quarterback play, health and luck are big factors. The challenge, though, is staying on top. Manning has kept the Colts at the top of the league during most of his tenure. The Patriots won three Super Bowls once Tom Brady took control of the offense. Dimitroff took Ryan. The Falcons will be major factors in this league for years to come because of that move. Let's dive into the mailbag. "

12/24/2008 4:13:45 PM

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"Samus Aran = best laser / rocket arm?"

classic. total classic.

12/24/2008 9:58:04 PM

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hes no teddy bridgewater

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