I like the idea, hell just don't tell anyone its not a real wolf, see how long it takes till someone notices

12/5/2008 6:39:33 AM

12/5/2008 7:41:10 AM

i support this thread.

12/5/2008 9:20:48 AM

BigEgo you could probably get one of the fraternities or sororities to take care of the dog(s). A lot of colleges that have live mascots have greek organizations taking care of them.

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12/5/2008 10:10:20 AM

Do any other schools have multiple live animals or just the one ?

Would be baller if were were the first to implement a whole bunch of them

12/5/2008 10:11:52 AM

There's a Wolf/Wolfdog rescue in the mountains...prolly 30 minutes from Black Mountain. Full Moon Farm. We went there in April to check them out--AWESOME place. And they really know their wolf/wolfdog shit. One of the wolfdogs was in Chronicles of Narnia

http://www.fullmoonfarm.org/

Anyway--you could get lots of information from them on what you would need to properly take care of a wolfdog. Some of the wolfdogs there were 90% wolf, but acted like PUPPIES around a few of the handlers but if anyone else got too close they would pace and growl. It was really interesting.

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12/5/2008 10:13:51 AM

i have a friend in asheville that breeds mixed wolves / canines

i wonder if they have any pups

12/5/2008 10:22:10 AM

i support your idea

12/5/2008 10:38:26 AM

well I support the idea but odds are it comes off cheesy just like that fisher price cave we come out of

or it actually turns out good but has a block S with "Wolfpack Club" stamped on its forehead

12/5/2008 10:40:08 AM

I support this idea, always have. Here's hoping we can get past all the red tape and bullshit associated with trying to implement a live mascot. It would be badass if you could train [insert badass name here] to run out to midfield (presumably to a trainer with a leash awaiting) and lead the team out. I know that's an unrealistic pipe dream, but it'd be badass.

If this were to happen, he or she would have to be conditioned early on to deal with the crowd noise, fireworks, etc. so as not to spend every home game spooked and agitated. The last thing I'd want is to have an animal miserable every saturday just for our enjoyment. For the same reason, I don't support live wolfdogs in cages by the visitor entrance, the visiting team would taunt them and yell at them, which would end badly with me hopping down from section 2 and getting my ass beat.

12/5/2008 10:51:41 AM

A buddy of mine went to Texas A&M, one way they keep the cost down for keeping Reveille is during the off season/when class is out, a family in their alumni association keeps Reveille at their home. During the school year the Corps of Cadets (aka ROTC) takes care of Reveille. Their vet school does all the vet check-ups, etc. That is of course considering we get the Tamaskans instead of wolves.

One thing to consider is carolina students or ecu students trying to kidnap the dog leading up to the game, which was A&M's reason for keeping a cadet with Reveille at all times. Reveille even goes to class with them and sleeps in their dorm rooms. I went to a game there last year and of all of the traditions that they have Reveille is by far one of the coolest (since they can't have the bonfire anymore).

12/5/2008 10:52:29 AM

Quote :

"This will end badly. I hope I'm there to see it."

though it would be awesome

12/5/2008 10:53:55 AM

^would it be counted as ending badly if when we played unc next year our wolves attacked and killed the ram?

12/5/2008 10:54:35 AM

^No, that would be considered a "best case scenario."

12/5/2008 11:09:01 AM

We have a live Somalian pirate going to Tulsa Sat for the championship game... risky but worth it

12/5/2008 11:28:42 AM

I support and like this idea. FTW Definitely, we need a Pack....


III

12/5/2008 12:39:51 PM

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"I'm sure you haven't overlooked the fact that we used to have live wolves at football games."

While some of them may have been actual wolves, Lobo III was really a coyote.

and i think the vet school has/had two wolves

12/5/2008 1:01:26 PM

OMFG GMORK!!!


yes, i think we should have some live wolves. it would be badass.

12/5/2008 1:51:02 PM

seeing a pack of those run out with the team or run across the field during some opening ceremony would look damn awesome.

they can also be taught to howl after scores & their howls be broadcasted over the speakers.





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12/5/2008 2:00:03 PM

we could put sweaters and sailor hats on them, just like Tuffy!


but seriously, i support this idea. fully.

12/5/2008 2:09:57 PM

bigego...PM the rest of the senators on TWW and send them a link to this thread

12/5/2008 2:27:31 PM

Update: I've received emails from 2 of the 3 American breeders so far. The one closest to campus (Elizabeth City, NC) seems eager to get involved if we can make this happen. The one in Colorado wouldn't want to give us a pup for this idea (which I think is stupid because he/she doesn't realize the level of care the university would be able to offer the dog). Anyway, cost of the dog would be around 2000 bucks. I'd probably say start out with one or two of the Tamaskans and see who people react to them and how they react to people.

12/5/2008 2:30:13 PM

AWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

whats funny is the pups name is ramses





Those eyes are crazy



Some chop in

"THIS IS RELEVENT TO MY INTERESTS"

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12/5/2008 2:51:40 PM

My dad use to have a wolf dog and I know several people that still have em. They are about 60% wolf the rest dog. Real wolfs are very shy animals but the wolf dogs are more friendly. Some of em are mean but some are good to work with.

12/5/2008 3:00:04 PM

red eyes for the win... thats the one

12/5/2008 3:02:44 PM

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"the thing with live wolves is they're harder to train and they're much harder to keep captive. a wolfdog would be a lot more people friendly to the point where your kids would be able to pet it."

So basically, you'd like a wolf, but only a wolf that's a pussy. That's the way to strike fear into our opponents.

12/5/2008 3:13:34 PM

Yes, because right now they piss themselves every time they see our guy in a costume.

12/5/2008 3:35:45 PM

^^ are you dumb? the point is that it'd be cool. a mascot is not used to legitimately scare anyone.

12/5/2008 3:50:02 PM

my parents own a tamaskan. we rescued her and though she was just a gray german sheperd

12/5/2008 5:04:25 PM

12/5/2008 5:08:34 PM

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"So basically, you'd like a wolf, but only a wolf that's a pussy. That's the way to strike fear into our opponents."

Exactly, because if it isn't a feral, blood-thirsty beast ready to rip apart anyone that gets close and frightens teams into not showing and forfeiting, then what's the point? (sarcasm)

It'd be a cool idea, I've often thought about it. As mentioned, how it would react to the crowd, fireworks, etc. would be the big concern.



What game was it recently where there was a security dog on the sideline of the in-zone that grabbed the receivers hand?

12/5/2008 5:21:45 PM

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"A wolf by any other name Mr. Wuf has been down a long road of changing mascots in his search for true identity Kate Shefte Senior Staff Writer Published: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 Updated: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 1921 -- The sports teams of North Carolina College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts, N.C. State's predecessor, had been at different times called the "Farmers and Mechanics," the "Red Terrors," and the "Aggies." In 1920, coach Harry Hartsell's football team, captained by J.T. "Runt" Faucette and then called the "Techs," were criticized for their up-and-down play. Before the season-opening football game on Sept. 25, 1921 against the Randolph-Macon Yellow Jackets, an anonymous fan wrote into the Technician, bemoaning the team's unstable coaching situation and the off-field antics of some of the players. He compared those players to "a pack of wolves," and the student body found it hilarious. The football team then became known as the Wolfpack. 1946 -- One man who didn't find it so hilarious was J.W. Harrelson, for whom Harrelson Hall was named. Harrelson served as N.C. State's chancellor from 1945 to 1953, just after World War II. Harrelson objected to the moniker, reminding veterans and civilians on campus that the name "Wolfpack" had been assigned to Nazi U-boats for the formation they kept. "The only thing lower than a wolf is a snake in the grass," Harrelson decreed. Harrelson proposed a contest, with football tickets as the prize, to see who could create a new N.C. State mascot. Some of the submissions included the Cardinals, Cultivators, Cotton-pickers, Auctioneers, Calumets and Pine-rooters, which is a term related to pigs. "We'll field a growling, rep-snorting team no matter what the mascot is," Beattie Feathers, the football coach at the time, said. "So the choice had better be good in order to keep pace with the boys." However, an overwhelming majority maintained that the "Wolfpack" was near and dear to them, and the title remained. "The wolf is a scrappy, tough animal -- the spittin' image of our team," one writer insisted. 1946 -- Ira Helms, a student in mechanical engineering, took it upon himself to create a mascot for the cheerleading squad to use during games. After initially abandoning the project due to high production costs, Helms welded, painted and constructed his robot wolf, finishing his metal monster the morning of the football season opener against Wake Forest. The paint was reportedly still wet when the new mascot took the field. "That was the first time we had a real mascot," said Tim Peeler, a writer for GoPack.com that has written several books on N.C. State athletics. Helms' robot was affectionately named "Hell" for its creator, but was also called "The Wolf Monster" and "The Trojan Wolf." He stood 7 feet tall and was 10 feet across at the chest. Helms climbed inside the contraption and employed another student to operate a fake control box, leading spectators to believe that Hell was an actual robot. "With a body similar to Frankenstein's monster and the ferocious head of a wolf, it is expected to create a sensation in the game and spur the team on to another victory," the Technician proclaimed on Oct. 18, 1946. Helms himself never climbed into Hell after the season opener because he claimed it was too hot, but cheerleaders operated the machine for the rest of the season, one of N.C. State's best to date. The team went 8-2 and made its first bowl game, the 1946 Gator Bowl. After the bowl, N.C. State cheerleaders and the band retired Hell and held a wake for him. 1947 -- The rest of N.C. State's athletic teams, still called the "Red Terrors," opted to change their names to the "Wolfpack" as well. 1966 -- A four-month old pup -- or "Lobo III," as it was called -- was purchased by the student body for $125 to commemorate the opening of Carter Stadium. Lobo III was preceded by two wolf mascots. The first died, and the other escaped under suspicious circumstances. 1967 -- A zoology professor noticed that "Lobo III" was not a Timberwolf, as the students who bought him had believed; he was a coyote. Students embraced the mistake, rallying around the "Kool Koyote." They spray painted the slogan on the free expression tunnel and wrote it in chalk around campus. 1950s -- Cheerleaders begin to dress up as a wolf to inspire students at sporting events. 1975 -- The future Ms. Wuf was unveiled to coincide with the introduction of women's athletics. The wolf mascots were married on the basketball court in 1981 as part of the season finale festivities. Wake Forest University's mascot, the Demon Deacon, presided over the faux ceremony. "They are technically married, although I don't believe Mrs. Wuf wears her ring these days," Peeler said. 1983 -- According to Peeler, Scott Joseph, the man behind the mask from 1981 to 1984, was instrumental in helping the Wolfpack mascot "evolve." He was also the one who coined the title "Mr. Wuf." "He was very active," Peeler said. "He made his own costume and at some point put 'Mr. Wuf' on the back, and it stuck." In an interview with The Wolfpacker, Joseph said that he and his mother came up with the now-famous name. "The only thing that was provided was the head, the rest you had to come up with on your own," Joseph said. "My mom sewed a suit out of fur and gave me a jersey. So we sat down and decided to call him 'Mr. Wuf' and she sewed that on my jersey." 2008 -- Different costumes have been phased in and out over the last 20 years, with Mr. and Mrs. Wufs' heads have become less elongated and coyote-esque and more humanized and kid-friendly."

there's also a pretty hilarious picture of the 1940s wolf robot from this link

http://technicianonline.com/sports/a_wolf_by_any_other_name

12/5/2008 5:51:18 PM

^the robot doesn't look "10 feet across at the chest".

Cool story though.

12/5/2008 5:58:59 PM

lol i would guess that they meant 10 feet around the chest, but who the hell knows

12/5/2008 6:59:16 PM

I support this. May I train the wolf-dog to bite off Scott Tenorman's weiner?

12/5/2008 11:59:14 PM

^i loled

12/6/2008 1:18:47 AM

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"6. Bully the bullfrog – Mississippi State"

what the fuck is this?

12/6/2008 2:50:59 AM

They can be taught to snarl and growl whenever they are in the presence of Lee Fowler... after he gives them official approval, of course.

12/6/2008 3:22:46 AM

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"I support this. May I train the wolf-dog to bite off Scott Tenorman's Butch Davis' weiner?"

...yes you may

12/6/2008 3:43:56 AM

Bring back RobotoWolf!

12/6/2008 8:47:04 AM

^^ Nice.

Quote :

"They can be taught to snarl and growl whenever they are in the presence of Lee Fowler... after he gives them official approval, of course."

LOL

12/6/2008 11:12:45 AM

Quote :

"Lobo III was purchased by the student body for $125 in 1966. Lobo III was later revealed to be not a timberwolf, but a koyote."

lol... gg technician

12/6/2008 12:46:07 PM

our basketball team's new mascot

12/6/2008 2:28:59 PM

**embed please**

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvJFcgTXnCc
lol

12/6/2008 3:03:11 PM

We need a live bouncer as our mascot

We set him up by the visitor's tunnel and when they run out he won't let them through the velvet ropes, maybe rough them up a little bit

12/6/2008 3:06:44 PM

I support the idea of a live mascot.

12/6/2008 4:03:27 PM

bttt

2/1/2009 7:20:22 PM

i have to pass the idea to another senator and odds are this won't happen till after approp. is over with

2/1/2009 9:59:20 PM

The Vet School has 2 live Red Wolves.

2/1/2009 11:57:02 PM

This would be SO awesome! I'm a student, and I would chip in for the cause. I'm sure many others would too, despite being poor, lol.

2/2/2009 12:43:00 AM