This thread brings the stupid.

1/6/2009 6:26:00 PM

"hey the Braves beat Santana"

"yeah, he was off today, didnt have the sharpest stuff"

"oh, damn, guess that win doesnt count now, fuck"

1/6/2009 6:29:52 PM

as much as i hate tOSU, they really coulda won if they had kept healthy. Wells was playing like a fiend for quite a bit. neutered their offense when he went out.

1/6/2009 6:38:11 PM

Quote :

"because they were playing good defenses. Ole Miss wasnt a great offense by any means during the year, and they tore up a top Big 12 team"

you're fucking retarded

Ole Miss has the 29th ranked offense in the country (total offense) at the end of the year (407 YPG)

given that they got 515 vs TT, that means they averaged 398 yards of offense in the other 12 games

in other words, without the TT game, they were still a top 40 offense

yeah, not good at all

[Edited on January 6, 2009 at 6:50 PM. Reason : fucking homer]

1/6/2009 6:43:30 PM

so you are saying the SEC does have good offenses? Thanks

I wouldnt consider Top 40 "great" which is what I said they werent

[Edited on January 6, 2009 at 6:49 PM. Reason : d]

1/6/2009 6:49:11 PM

you are a total dipshit

i'm saying SOME of the SEC teams had good offenses

but a near MAJORITY of them were AWFUL

do you make the SEC drink pineapple juice before you blow them?

1/6/2009 6:51:10 PM

do you make anyone but the SEC drink pineapple juice before you blow them?


I mean, the SEC bowl teams have been scoring a lot of points for the most part, LSU (who you called one of the worse SEC offenses on numerous occasions) completely tore up a very good GT defense at home in a bowl game.

[Edited on January 6, 2009 at 6:56 PM. Reason : d]

1/6/2009 6:54:43 PM

lulz

i knew you had nothing

1/6/2009 6:55:33 PM

patience my little hater

I can hear you furiously searching yahoo's sports page for an example to refute my claim

[Edited on January 6, 2009 at 6:59 PM. Reason : d]

1/6/2009 6:56:28 PM

hah! i knew you'd try to bring that shit up

that game was more of a failure of GT's special teams and offense than it was defense

after all GT held LSU to 50 yards LESS than their season's average in the ESS EEE SEE

sorry, i actually respond when i have a fully formed answer that can be backed by FACTS

[Edited on January 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM. Reason : .]

1/6/2009 6:59:43 PM

yeah, so it was an amazingly efficient offense, even more impressive, one could say it is the Carnot Cycle of offenses

[Edited on January 6, 2009 at 7:09 PM. Reason : d]

1/6/2009 7:00:37 PM

amazingly efficient?

jesus christ where do you come up with this shit

is there some sort of crib sheet from the SEC website?

i still don't get how you could possibly call yourself objective

1/6/2009 7:20:18 PM

no need to get worked up over Jaybee. He's an SEC homer and you're an SEC hater.

[Edited on January 6, 2009 at 7:32 PM. Reason : .]

1/6/2009 7:32:34 PM

not a homer at all, I am sorry that the SEC is the best football conference over the last 20+ years but there is just no debating it, same thing with the ACC in bball.

some objective thoughts I have put on here:

Tennessee sucks ass this year
The SEC isnt the best bball conference
Cowboys have played horrible
Crompton is the worst QB ever
Philip Rivers was the best college QB I had ever seen
Tim Tebow (who I hate) might have passed him


for some convoluted reason these wont count right?



[Edited on January 6, 2009 at 7:41 PM. Reason : d]

1/6/2009 7:33:32 PM

you're a cowboys fan?

1/6/2009 7:45:06 PM

yes

1/6/2009 7:45:59 PM

if philip rivers was the best college qb you ever saw, then you obviously need to watch a little more college football...just a fyi...

1/6/2009 10:14:29 PM

yeah really, ever heard of David Garrard?

1/6/2009 10:16:46 PM

ha ha ha...

[Edited on January 6, 2009 at 10:20 PM. Reason : i did trade DG for PR in fantasy football at the beginning of the season, worked out well for me]

1/6/2009 10:19:31 PM

^^^ who have you seen better?

stupid motherfucker

[Edited on January 6, 2009 at 10:34 PM. Reason : d]

1/6/2009 10:33:55 PM

Matt Lienert
Payton Manning
Tommie Frazier
Charlie Ward
Ty Detmer
Danny Wuerfel

but then when you go back and look at people i actually never saw, but can just read about...

Davey O'Brien
Sammy Baugh
Roger Staubach
Doug Flutie



like i said, you should watch a little more college football... PRiv was in fact a great college QB and should be playing the Pro Bowl this year over Cutler...but he was not the best ever by any means...and i will continue to rock my powder blue PRiv jersey

[Edited on January 7, 2009 at 12:38 AM. Reason : yea]

1/7/2009 12:36:07 AM

Tommy Frazier? You aren't equating wins with qb greatness are you?

Sorry, just don't really think of putting option qbs on the same level as qbs who, you know, throw it

[Edited on January 7, 2009 at 12:41 AM. Reason : s]

1/7/2009 12:40:20 AM

I dont believe a QB should be punished for the system he played in...

i had him up there as being the best option QB

and Wins should be a good stat, i mean 2 championships in 3 years....

[Edited on January 7, 2009 at 12:46 AM. Reason : yea]

1/7/2009 12:43:49 AM

if the system isn't taken into account, then tommy chang & any ttu qb put up 'great' numbers

1/7/2009 12:45:37 AM

Chang threw 80 ints to go with those record numbers...

1/7/2009 12:48:57 AM

Jaybee1200 never said Rivers was the best ever.

and Rivers was a better college QB than everyone on this list:

Matt Leinart
Peyton Manning
Tommie Frazier
Charlie Ward
Ty Detmer
Danny Wuerffel

...except maybe Peyton Manning

1/7/2009 12:53:00 AM

Graham Harrell's 15,793 yards and 134 TDs..

1/7/2009 12:53:03 AM

^^you sem to be confusing college w/ pro

1/7/2009 12:58:43 AM

nope, no confusion at all.

1/7/2009 1:03:36 AM

double poast

[Edited on January 7, 2009 at 1:22 PM. Reason : d]

1/7/2009 1:21:25 PM

Quote :

"Matt Lienert Payton Manning Tommie Frazier Charlie Ward Ty Detmer Danny Wuerfel but then when you go back and look at people i actually never saw, but can just read about... Davey O'Brien Sammy Baugh Roger Staubach Doug Flutie like i said, you should watch a little more college football... PRiv was in fact a great college QB and should be playing the Pro Bowl this year over Cutler...but he was not the best ever by any means...and i will continue to rock my powder blue PRiv jersey "

so you personally saw all six of them play? I call bullshit. Unless your dad is a fucking American Airlines pilot or works for ESPN, I call bullshit.

I have no doubt that I know more about college football than any motherfucker on here

1/7/2009 1:21:25 PM

Did this guy seriously say Tommie Frazier, Matt Leinart, and Charlie Ward were better college QBs than PR?

LOL Phil is easily the best QB the ACC has ever seen....probably the best college in recent memory.

[Edited on January 7, 2009 at 1:26 PM. Reason : Peyton was damn good, just because they didn't win it all with him don't be fooled.]

1/7/2009 1:24:53 PM

^homer

Im not saying Phil wasn't great but all he won was a gator bowl, no national titles, no conference titles

Im okay with saying Phil was the "Dan Marino" of college football

1/7/2009 1:46:02 PM

Quote :

"Im okay with saying Phil was the "Dan Marino" of college football"

So in other words he was one of the best, if not the best?

1/7/2009 1:47:09 PM

^^I know right. Other QBs were much better at running the football, playing defense, & kicking, hence why their teams were able to play for titles


if we are judging qb greatness by wins, then dorsey should be in the conversation. you really think he was one of the greatest college qbs ever?

[Edited on January 7, 2009 at 1:48 PM. Reason : ^]

1/7/2009 1:48:11 PM

hahaha, some of you use the EXACT opposite argument against Peyton in the NFL

1/7/2009 4:28:09 PM

Matt Leinhart? seriously? Talk about a product of the best offensive line in the nation, a bunch of frisbee catching dog receivers, and the best rushing 1-2 punch in college football since Brown/Cadillac

1/7/2009 4:32:24 PM

If we are revoking Heismans, I would revoke the following:
Tebow's
Jason White
Eric Crouch
Matt Leinart

Adrian Peterson should have been the first underclassman to win the Heisman.

1/7/2009 4:36:51 PM

Quote :

"so you personally saw all six of them play? I call bullshit. Unless your dad is a fucking American Airlines pilot or works for ESPN, I call bullshit. I have no doubt that I know more about college football than any motherfucker on here "

oh my fault, i was unaware of the fact that i had to PHYSICALLY see them play to judge them....so then i guess PRiv would be the best qb that i have PHYSICALLY seen

you have yet to prove that you know much about college football in this thread...the only thing you have proven is you only watch nc state football in person and you're a homer.


If you cant say that Peyton is a better college qb you are a homer. Woodsen stole his heisman.

Tommie Frazier...3 trips to national title, 2 wins...numorous qb awards...one if not the best option qb's, 16 rushes, 199 yards in the national title, 3 tds i think...

1/7/2009 5:25:49 PM

Quote :

"If you cant say that Peyton is a better college qb you are a homer. Woodsen stole his heisman"

keep saying stuff like that though & jaybee will happily felate you

1/7/2009 5:30:01 PM

Quote :

"If you cant say that Peyton is a better college qb you are a homer. Woodsen stole his heisman."

Just like Jason White stole Rivers Heisman.

If Rivers played for USC, Texas, Florida, Oklahoma, he would have almost been a unanimous Heisman.

Don't hate because Jeff Blake isn't mentioned as a top QB.

1/7/2009 8:00:04 PM

i havent even mentioned ECU...but good try


i havent mentioned Jason White, and i also believe he didnt deserve the Heisman....


ill assume the reason being Big 12 vs ACC opponents....big difference...but correct me if im wrong, but wasnt that the same year you guys played at Ohio State?

1/7/2009 9:09:08 PM

Quote :

"oh my fault, i was unaware of the fact that i had to PHYSICALLY see them play to judge them....so then i guess PRiv would be the best qb that i have PHYSICALLY seen you have yet to prove that you know much about college football in this thread...the only thing you have proven is you only watch nc state football in person and you're a homer. If you cant say that Peyton is a better college qb you are a homer. Woodsen stole his heisman."

hahahaha
hahahaha

dont know where to start... first off, I dont just watch NC State games in person, hell, not even counting State games I have gone to I bet I have seen more college football games than just about anyone on here... second, I am not a homer, and if I was, it wouldnt be a State homer. Third, I agree with Woodson being a sham Heisman winner 100%. Looking at the voting for EVERY year before and since then, it made no sense. Fourth, of course I was talking about seeing in person, with things like the internet, ESPN, ESPN Classic, DVDs, etc. you can watch pretty much any player of any time period, so I meant the best that I had actually watched play in a stadium.

1/8/2009 12:51:49 AM

Quote :

"I bet I have seen more college football games than just about anyone on here"

yeah but you've had a bit of a head start.

1/8/2009 12:55:05 AM

never denied that

1/8/2009 12:58:23 AM

i'm just teasin'!

1/8/2009 1:04:08 AM

I rest my case.

1/9/2009 5:09:15 PM

Yeah, we can revoke the heisman this year and give it to Tebow

As long as we revoke last year's heisman and give it to someone else.

1/9/2009 5:12:44 PM

the heisman is such a shit award to begin with

1/9/2009 5:14:51 PM

Florida's defense and Percy Harvin won that game for them. Tebow's timely FB leads only barely made up for the two terrible picks he threw in the first half. If Oklahoma had played anywhere close to what they're capable of, Tebow would be the goat today.

1/9/2009 5:14:58 PM