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"What beers do you guys recommend from them? I had the one that was on special (Diambondback?) and the Brown Ale... wasn't too impressed."

Huzzah!
Appalachia
Buckshot
Dark Horse or whatever
Gunpowder
Swamp Fox

10/23/2010 6:31:12 PM

I like it all

10/23/2010 8:56:49 PM

annddddd they're gone

http://www.wral.com/natty-greene-s-closing-raleigh-location/14736211/

6/25/2015 7:02:50 AM

That building has significant turnover. Though Natty's hung on longer than some others, I imagine the new owners didn't help.

6/25/2015 7:07:19 AM

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"I imagine the new owners didn't help."

that's pretty much what the article says

6/25/2015 8:22:39 AM

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"That building has significant turnover. Though Natty's hung on longer than some others, I imagine the new owners didn't help."

Seems like the business was doing just fine.

6/25/2015 8:40:09 AM

6/25/2015 9:07:36 AM

the place was also terrible

6/25/2015 9:26:25 AM

Shitty place with shitty beer and even shittier scumbag clientele

6/25/2015 9:58:39 AM

^Fitting description of most of Glenwood south

6/25/2015 2:20:59 PM

the snobbery of some people never ceases to surprise me, lol.

6/25/2015 2:26:28 PM

Tbh the beer, compared to most of the non-Roth (or whatever they go by now) Raleigh craft breweries just didn't do it for me..

[Edited on June 25, 2015 at 2:42 PM. Reason : X]

6/25/2015 2:42:08 PM

ha is that a Roth dig there?

[Edited on June 25, 2015 at 2:44 PM. Reason : ^ it's gizmo now]

6/25/2015 2:43:58 PM

Yeah just never got into any of their beers. I felt similarly to Full Steam when it opened but its grown on me a lot. Anyway shouldnt have taken dig at them. I've heard Gizmo has improved just can't justify giving them a fourth or fifth chance with so many better options ...

[Edited on June 25, 2015 at 2:47 PM. Reason : Damn autocorrect]

6/25/2015 2:46:41 PM

Raleigh Brewing and Trophy are easily my favorite

Natty Greene's is super overrated, which sucks, because that space rules

[Edited on June 25, 2015 at 2:57 PM. Reason : .]

6/25/2015 2:56:45 PM

Crank Arm and Trophy are my favorites, although RBC is not bad at all. I've had some terrific beers from Sub Noir but they're barely ever open.

6/25/2015 3:40:18 PM

I enjoyed going there sometimes. my department at work would go there sometimes after school in the afternoons on their pint night.

beer was ok... not my absolute favorite but didn't hate it either.

6/25/2015 4:01:18 PM

I've been waiting for market saturation to claim it's first victim. Not surprised. Who's next? It won't be Trophy, that place is always packed and has good pizza/beer.

6/25/2015 4:17:52 PM

I don't know that I've ever known anyone who really liked Crank Arm

we've given them a couple of shots and have been let down every time

6/25/2015 4:24:18 PM

i thought the restaurant part of it was really good. never drank there though

6/25/2015 4:29:21 PM

Broad Street FTW!!!!!!!!! Last night I went to Aviator and Draft Line with a friend. I don't think I ever want to go to Glenwood South again. Way less traffic and people in Fuquay.

[Edited on June 25, 2015 at 4:42 PM. Reason : .]

6/25/2015 4:41:57 PM

Why were you going to Glenwood South in the first place?

6/25/2015 6:06:58 PM

^
I go for Armadillo Grill.

6/25/2015 6:24:31 PM

There are less people and traffic in FV than Glenwood South? How insightful.

6/25/2015 6:31:38 PM

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"I've been waiting for market saturation to claim it's first victim. Not surprised. "

Market saturation had nothing to do with it. Old landlord sold the place and the new landlord purposefully raised the rent above what Natty's could pay to force them out. New group is planning some development there, which will likely be more shitty apartments.

6/25/2015 6:44:10 PM

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" Old landlord sold the place and the new landlord purposefully raised the rent above what Natty's could pay to force them out. "

I feel like it would be more decent for the new landlord to just say, "Okay, this is our building now and we're kicking your asses out"

maybe this is illegal, but I don't see why it should be.

6/25/2015 6:54:09 PM

why? it at least gives them a potential option of coughing up the extra rent, or gives them the ability to close up on their own terms.

6/25/2015 9:11:10 PM

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"There are less people and traffic in FV than Glenwood South? How insightful."

And that is what makes it nice. J&S NY Pizza, Draft Line Brewery, Aviator Smokehouse, Aviator Beer Shop, Aviator Tap House, and The Brick House Bar & Grill are all right together. None of them are ever overfull either, so it's just nicer as long as you are into craft beers.

6/25/2015 11:02:16 PM

About time. Terrible beer.

6/26/2015 1:22:42 AM

^^ Cary is nicer than Mogadishu... If we are comparing two totally incomparable things.

6/26/2015 7:31:40 AM

^^^Go home you're drunk. Or better yet FV can keep you

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"I've been waiting for market saturation to claim it's first victim. Not surprised. Who's next? It won't be Trophy, that place is always packed and has good pizza/beer."

Man, did you not even read the article?

Most of NG's beers were so so, but I readily enjoy their winter seasonal, Red Nose. It's pretty good in my opinion. And their beer is pretty damn good when it's on sale for $2 pints.

Now find me another bar downtown with a full size shuffle board table you fucks!

[Edited on June 26, 2015 at 8:21 AM. Reason : ]

6/26/2015 8:21:19 AM

Well, did the same owners have the 518 West property (another place I didn't care for)? It sounds like the block just got re-evaluated for property value and the businesses there just couldn't cut it. I understand Natty Greene's couldn't pay the rent but if their beer was good enough to draw more of a crowd then they probably could have stayed. It's pretty obvious which local breweries are in it for max profit and which are in it to make a good product. When you hear places advertise on 99.9, you probably know they are shit right off the bat.

6/26/2015 9:55:00 AM

518 was owned by other people. And they sold their property to Google.

And the new owners of the building that Natty Greene's is in wanted to double the rent. It has little to do with "how good you are". When an expense doubles like that it often makes little sense to keep going if you have other options. Oak City Tavern was making money hand over fist but closed b/c their landlord did something similar. (not that I was upset to see them close or anything). I'm not defending the merit of these establishments, just blowing holes in some pretty weak arguments here.

Anyway, it's a pretty big gamble IMO. That spot had high turnover for a years until NG took over. The owners are gambling that they'll draw someone else for even bigger money. Not sure it'll work out.

6/26/2015 10:19:28 AM

I find it hard to believe that Natty Greene's signed a five year lease with no option.

6/26/2015 10:43:27 AM

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"It sounds like the block just got re-evaluated for property value and the businesses there just couldn't cut it"

Naw it sounds like you don't know what you're talking about.

6/26/2015 10:53:52 AM

I will admit it's hard for a Raleigh Italian restaurant to compete with the likes of Google for that property. You know the owners of Natty Greene's property saw that and thought they could get Apple or something. Now I think it might be funny if they can't get anyone. Although, tech companies are jumping into these buildings all the time now. I just moved into a space like that myself.

6/26/2015 11:40:23 AM

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"I will admit it's hard for a Raleigh Italian restaurant to compete with the likes of Google for that property."

Dude, you need to read up There was no "compete with the likes of Google". The owners of the building that 518 was housed in were also the owners of the restaurant. One and the same.

6/26/2015 12:05:38 PM

just ate there for lunch, and the waitress told us that tobacco road was moving in

take that for what's it worth

6/26/2015 1:18:55 PM

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"^^^Go home you're drunk. Or better yet FV can keep you"

LOL! I actually live in Garner. It takes me about a half hour to get to the bars in Fuquay and in Raleigh. Lately I've been hanging out in Fuquay more because my family and friends like going to Aviator. Raleigh is cool though too. Garner is lame. We don't have anything like Glenwood South, Moore Square, or Broad Street.

6/26/2015 3:28:01 PM

Tobacco Road is decent. But I don't see why they needed to move. The original location seemed alright to me.

6/26/2015 3:53:07 PM