3/13/2009 1:29:59 PM

^ Plenty of room up there for the CollegeInsider.com whatever banner

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"UNC disagrees"

OK, it still doesn't exist

[Edited on March 13, 2009 at 1:31 PM. Reason : ]

3/13/2009 1:31:09 PM

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"1. We have a reg. season title 2. Some of these teams won their titles in lesser leagues (come on, I went to USF at one point, USF was in the Sun Belt when they last won theirs)"

OOPS! I looked at the wrong table on wikipedia. South Florida hasn't won a football title in the Big East. As for teams like SMU, TCU, and Houston, they were in the SWC with Texas, Arkansas, and Texas A&M when they won some titles.



Big XII/Big 8/SWC
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Colorado
Nebraska
Oklahoma
Texas
Oklahoma State
Texas A&M
Missouri
Houston
Arkansas
Texas Tech
TCU
SMU

SEC
Florida
Kentucky
LSU
Alabama
Tennessee
Auburn
Georgia
Mississippi State

Big Ten
Iowa
Ohio State
Michigan
Northwestern
Penn State
Illinois
Indiana
Purdue
Wisconsin
Michigan State

Pac-10
Washington
Washington State
Oregon State
Oregon
Arizona State
Arizona
UCLA
USC
Stanford
California

ACC
FSU
Georgia Tech
Maryland
UNC
Wake Forest
Duke
Clemson
Virginia
Virginia Tech

Big East
Miami
Syracuse
UConn
West Virginia
Pitt
George Town
Boston College
St. John's
Villanova
Seton Hall
Louisville
Rutgers
Cinncinnati
Providence

Independent
Notre Dame

No Titles Since 1987
NC State
Ole Miss
Marquette
DePaul
Baylor
Vanderbilt
Minnesota
South Florida

[Edited on March 13, 2009 at 1:48 PM. Reason : .]

3/13/2009 1:46:27 PM

Who gives a fuck.

Cross Country/Air Rifle/Wrestling/Softball FTMFW!!!!

3/13/2009 1:55:52 PM

You forgot about South Carolina - their sports history is very sad.

3/13/2009 2:03:03 PM

^You're right. I was going to put them on the list too.

3/13/2009 2:47:46 PM

i really hate it when i get three sentences into a post by Ernie and realize it makes no sense, only to find out i was tricked into reading an Erios post.

3/14/2009 1:57:52 AM

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"I will say that Mississippi State only won 1 SEC basketball title after we won one in 1987, so if you count our title then we are tied with them."

Make that two.

3/20/2009 3:18:59 PM

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"i really hate it when i get three sentences into a post by Ernie and realize it makes no sense, only to find out i was tricked into reading an Erios post."

I do that shit too

When the fuck did I post that?

3/20/2009 3:20:00 PM

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"i really hate it when i get three sentences into a post by Ernie and realize it makes no sense, only to find out i was tricked into reading an Erios post."

ROFL.. My reaction is usually "This is way too damn earnest to be the real Ernie."

3/20/2009 3:25:59 PM

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"You forgot about South Carolina - their sports history is very sad."

All the South Carolina fans I know make up for this fact by pulling for UNC.

3/20/2009 4:33:20 PM

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"of course he was "

YEAH, OF COURSE THE DUMB GUY WAS FROM THE FAIRLY PRESTIGIOUS PRIVATE SCHOOL OF 10,000 UNDERGRADS.

3/21/2009 5:31:50 AM

No Titles Since Our Last Title in 1987

NC State
Marquette
DePaul
Baylor
South Carolina
South Florida
Utah

Subtract Vanderbilt and Ole Miss thanks to SEC Basketball and add Utah thanks to conference expansion. I could see Utah getting a title in football, or basketball before us.

3/17/2013 3:43:23 PM

This thread makes me so sad this is why some of us are so pessimistic

3/17/2013 4:12:34 PM

neither Utah nor NC State are gonna win a BCS title unless the entire SEC gets suspended from playing football

3/17/2013 4:14:34 PM

^Tree, this is those that have won at least a CONFERENCE title since 1987 in a BCS Conference.

3/17/2013 4:16:27 PM

oh, well then i agree utah probably has a better shot

3/17/2013 4:18:07 PM

This is genuinely depressing.

[Edited on March 17, 2013 at 4:34 PM. Reason : 4 of those 7 haven't been in a BCS-level conference that long]

3/17/2013 4:32:06 PM

It is a list of schools that have won at least 1 conference, or national title in football, or men's basketball in a BCS/power conference since we last won the ACC Tournament in 1987. Some schools like Florida and UCLA have won multiple titles in both sports since then.

[Edited on March 17, 2013 at 4:34 PM. Reason : .]

3/17/2013 4:33:56 PM

this list includes conference co-champions

3/17/2013 5:02:17 PM

^Yeah it does in some situations...but hey...we can't claim that either.

3/17/2013 5:18:06 PM

why can't Baylor claim the conference co-title (football) in 1994?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baylor_Bears_football#Championships

3/17/2013 5:19:53 PM

^Ah damn!

No Titles Since Our Last Title in 1987

NC State
Marquette
DePaul
South Carolina
South Florida
Utah


[Edited on March 17, 2013 at 5:30 PM. Reason : .]

3/17/2013 5:27:18 PM

and Marquette won the Big East in bball this year


your list is down to State and 4 others

3/17/2013 5:31:12 PM

^I'm not counting conference basketball regular season titles, just the tournaments. The only regular season titles I counted were in football and basketball leagues with no title game, or tournament.

3/17/2013 5:39:31 PM

is conference champion not considered a "title" though?

conference tournaments really don't mean anything anymore

[Edited on March 17, 2013 at 5:44 PM. Reason : d]

3/17/2013 5:43:54 PM

^Use whatever wording you want, but people remember the tournament champion and not the regular season champion.

My prediction for the list...

Marquette wins the new Big East before we win an ACC title (NC State shit)
Utah because the Pac-12 schools can't ever seem to make up their mind if they want to be good at football, or basketball. Some years the league is strong and other years the league is crappy in either football, or basketball.
NC State It has to happen sooner, or later
South Carolina They suck at basketball and the SEC is too good in football for them to win the league.
DePaul They play in the new Big East
South Florida When all is said and done, they won't be a member of any power conference in football, or basketball.

[Edited on March 17, 2013 at 5:55 PM. Reason : .]

3/17/2013 5:54:06 PM

people in North Carolina put entirely too much value on conference tournaments

3/17/2013 5:55:45 PM

^Well if you want to look at it like that then 1989 was our last title and I don't think the list changes that much.

3/17/2013 8:47:15 PM

Congratulations to Louisville on their Regular Season National Championship. Go Cards.

3/17/2013 8:49:31 PM

^Exactly!

3/18/2013 12:58:03 AM

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"We're a huge public university in medium-sized city in a highly-populated mild weather state. We've got great facilities, lots of rich donors and tons of fans. "

bit of a stretch

3/18/2013 1:02:52 AM

No it's not. the extremes are Texas on one end and Chicago on the other. Would say RDU is close to the middle, but obviously not the paradise of socal.

[Edited on March 18, 2013 at 1:05 AM. Reason : s]

3/18/2013 1:05:37 AM

guess your definition is different from mine and other meteorologists

to me, 'mild' means between 55-75 degrees with no little to no rain/tornadoes/hurricanes/

[Edited on March 18, 2013 at 1:08 AM. Reason : .]

3/18/2013 1:07:49 AM

Which is about what SoCal is mister meteorologist. Just saying that RDU is close to that. Certainly not unbearably hot nor frigid cold, with a worldly respected fall as a plus. Mild is a pretty decent description.

3/18/2013 1:15:45 AM

i wouldn't consider anywhere you need A/C for 3-5 months out of the year having 'mild' weather though. the summers in NC are pretty fucking hot/humid/uncomfortable. that's sorta like saying Vegas is known for it's mild weather- 3 months out of the years it's 100+ while the rest of the year it can be between 30-80 degrees.

the winters are definitely mild compared to the NE for sure though, minus the sleet/freezing rain.

meh. mild for the East Coast, i guess

[Edited on March 18, 2013 at 1:20 AM. Reason : .]

3/18/2013 1:19:31 AM

glad we're having weather conversations...that must mean we made the NCAA tourney

3/18/2013 1:24:29 AM

to be fair, i was just trolling an Ernie post to try and invoke his irritable presence.

hasn't worked so far

3/18/2013 1:25:27 AM

^^^ Maybe you don't travel much but NC is a pretty sweet goldilocks in the middle.

Or maybee it is because I am stuck in Texas and already have to turn my AC on. Who knows, but folks in the carolinas got it good. Prolly better than any other climate not named SoCal.

^ rawr

[Edited on March 18, 2013 at 1:28 AM. Reason : dp]

3/18/2013 1:27:40 AM

oh, I live in the Bay Area. It's actually much milder in Oakland than anywhere else in the country. Rand McNally said so.

we don't even have an air conditioner. it rarely gets above 80 degrees, even in July/August



[Edited on March 18, 2013 at 1:30 AM. Reason : .]

3/18/2013 1:28:25 AM

yeah but no fall, amirite?

3/18/2013 1:43:15 AM

actually, there are plenty of trees up here, and they turn colors/drop leaves during autumn. if anything, you feel like it's either spring/fall all year long because it's pretty much always cool/mild. the only real way you can tell the difference between seasons is if the hills are green or brown. if they're green, it's spring/winter since it's probably rained a bit. if they're brown, it's summer/fall since it hasn't rained in months. it rains about 25-30 inches between november and april, so it's a Mediterranean climate- which total explains why Napa/Sonoma wines are so great.

when i lived in SoCal though it felt like endless summer. december/january were the best months since you could hang out by the beach/pool in the middle of winter. you definitely need A/C in the summer though, unlike here...

[Edited on March 18, 2013 at 1:51 AM. Reason : i'm a nerd]

3/18/2013 1:46:56 AM

you dont need an ac if you are on the coast.

3/18/2013 2:09:36 AM

k, well if you are a mile or two inland (like most people) you do

3/18/2013 2:15:52 AM

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"No Titles Since Our Last Title in 1987 NC State Marquette DePaul South Carolina South Florida Utah"

Toss all these teams in a conference and see who gets off the list last.

3/18/2013 9:48:53 AM

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"Congratulations to Louisville on their Regular Season National Championship. Go Cards."

Duke has an AP #1 banner for 1999.

In any case Big East (ACC does not) always gave trophies and official recognition of reg season champion so IMO that's a legit title.

3/18/2013 9:54:24 AM

What about our pre-season ACC title?

3/18/2013 10:05:15 AM

Taking this beyond just the championship stuff and thinking in terms of "memorable" things like Final Fours, then it becomes even more bleak for us.

NC State - Sweet 16s and a Gator Bowl are our recent claims to fame
Marquette - Final Four with Wade
DePaul - they don't even play football and have an enrollment of like 5000
South Carolina - 2 baseball titles and now a Top-15 program in football. Won the SEC East which is something.
South Florida - barely been around long enough to win anything. Got to #2 in football once.
Utah - Final Four with fat ass Majerus and made a BCS game under Meyer IIRC.

Honestly it is us, DePaul, and USF for the mediocrity crown. It is truly depressing that we have been so consistently awful to average for nearly 30 years. Insane. We are becoming the Chicago Cubs of the NCAA.

3/18/2013 11:39:56 AM

We are becoming the Chicago Cubs of the NCAA.

3/18/2013 11:51:46 AM

The cubs at least won their division last in 2008.

We haven't even managed that in FB. (Yeah yeah, ACC divisions haven't been around very long. But still)

3/18/2013 11:57:31 AM